Would this card be an 8.5 or a 9?

[GAbballplayer148]

I posted this on the Grading boards, but it hasn't had a single view all day.

I received a card that has grades of 10, 8.5, 8.5, 8.5. If I re submitted this card and got a 10, 8.5, 9, 8.5 would that still be an overall 8.5 or a 9?

 

[daveyou]

still 8.5

dave

 

[GAbballplayer148]

That was quick...thanks!

 

[A_Pharis]

The final grade is the average of the two lowest grades, rounded up if not an even .0 or .5, isn't it?

 

[scotty21690]

8.5

A final grade can never be higher than the 2nd lowest subgrade, I'm pretty sure.

 

[J.O.]

average of the 4 grades, never higher than 1 point more than lowest grade

(a 5 10 10 10 would be a 6)

 

[EricInCT]

Think of it this way:

you receive a 10,10,10,8.5

the highest a graded card can receive is .5 better than the LOWEST grade. Thus this card would receive a 9.0.

Hope that helps

 

[GAbballplayer148]

Think of it this way:

you receive a 10,10,10,8.5

the highest a graded card can receive is .5 better than the LOWEST grade. Thus this card would receive a 9.0.

Hope that helps

I just got this response in my thread in the grading forum by f2tornado:

"Still an 8.5. In general, the card will only grade as high as the second lowest subgrade. In your case you would still have two 8.5 subgrades and that would be the overall grade to expect.

Another tidbit worth noting... The final grade is not higher than a half point above the lowest subgrade. There are rare cases when a card has a 10,10,10,8.5 and still get an overall 9.5."

 

[The_ReverendAct2]

That is not necessarily true. I sent a Jay Bruce TCU Auto Refractor last year and these were the subs:

Centering 9
Corners 10
Edges 9.5
Surface 8

the final grade was...............................9.

So that rule does not always hold true.

 

[gregbara]

That is not necessarily true. I sent a Jay Bruce TCU Auto Refractor last year and these were the subs:

Centering 9
Corners 10
Edges 9.5
Surface 8

the final grade was...............................9.

So that rule does not always hold true.

Please post a scan, thats interesting, you got lucky.

 

[leatherman]

average of the 4 grades, never higher than 1 point more than lowest grade

(a 5 10 10 10 would be a 6)

Dead wrong.

This is the BGS algorithm:

Take two lowest subgrades.
1. If two lowest subgrades are equal, overall grade is the same as those subgrades.
2. If two lowest subgrades differ by 0.5 , overall grade is the same as the 2nd highest subgrade.
3. If two lowest subgrades differ by 1.0 or more, it gets tricky:
A) If lowest subgrade is for Edges or Surface, AND the 2 highest subgrades are at least 1.5 higher than the lowest subgrade, then the overall grade will be 1.0 higher than the lowest subgrade.
B) All other instances result in the overall grade being 0.5 higher than the lowest subgrade.

Some examples (Centering, Corners, Edges, Surface):

8.5, 8.5, 9.5, 9 = BGS 8.5 (case 1)
9.5, 9, 9, 9.5 = BGS 9 (case 1)
8, 9.5, 9.5, 8.5 = BGS 8.5 (case 2)
9.5, 9.5, 9.5, 8 = BGS 9 (case 3A)
9, 9, 9, 7.5 = BGS 8.5 (case 3A)
9, 9, 9, 8 = BGS 8.5 (case 3B)

Three 9.5s and an 8.5 = always a 9

 

[GAbballplayer148]

average of the 4 grades, never higher than 1 point more than lowest grade

(a 5 10 10 10 would be a 6)

Dead wrong.

This is the BGS algorithm:

Take two lowest subgrades.
1. If two lowest subgrades are equal, overall grade is the same as those subgrades.
2. If two lowest subgrades differ by 0.5 , overall grade is the same as the 2nd highest subgrade.
3. If two lowest subgrades differ by 1.0 or more, it gets tricky:
A) If lowest subgrade is for Edges or Surface, AND the 2 highest subgrades are at least 1.5 higher than the lowest subgrade, then the overall grade will be 1.0 higher than the lowest subgrade.
B) All other instances result in the overall grade being 0.5 higher than the lowest subgrade.

Some examples (Centering, Corners, Edges, Surface):

8.5, 8.5, 9.5, 9 = BGS 8.5 (case 1)
9.5, 9, 9, 9.5 = BGS 9 (case 1)
8, 9.5, 9.5, 8.5 = BGS 8.5 (case 2)
9.5, 9.5, 9.5, 8 = BGS 9 (case 3A)
9, 9, 9, 7.5 = BGS 8.5 (case 3A)
9, 9, 9, 8 = BGS 8.5 (case 3B)

Three 9.5s and an 8.5 = always a 9

David, thank you so much. Very helpful post.