Very interesting, I know this guy in person and he buys from me at shows. Ive seen him buy tons and tons of ultimate at the show but never paid attention as to what he pulled (never really cared). Im not saying his cards are real or fake im just sayin im suprised with the dude.
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WOW!!! This Griffey is INSANE!!!
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Huffamaniac
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This is the reason I do not collect patch cards. I love them but am afraid I am buying soemthing that is not real
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uniquebaseballcards
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Yes, I'm not only concerned about patch-fakers, but manufacturers not placing the correct patch in, or using a patch that came from an old-timer's game or something and not saying so on the card.
I still wind up buying certain ones though, and not ones that look ridiculous.
I still wind up buying certain ones though, and not ones that look ridiculous.
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ChasHawk
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Kev - I have nothing to "protect" as I don't own a single card from this set.
I'm just saying that despite the fact that this guy has faked some jumbos, that Griffey could be legit.
Not saying that I know 100% that it is, just that I can't immediately write it off based on other cards I've seen pulled from this set.
I'm just saying that despite the fact that this guy has faked some jumbos, that Griffey could be legit.
Not saying that I know 100% that it is, just that I can't immediately write it off based on other cards I've seen pulled from this set.
metallicalex777
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chashawk said:
Well said Charlie!!! I think we need Kevin (pinbreaker) to step in and show off his PACK PULLED Griffey patches he got out of Andrew's (allincards) casebreaks :mrgreen: It is definitely sad that we have to always think first ''real or fake'' with awesome patches but out of the brains and threads we have on FCB atleast we have some sort of edge "trend" wise via scans, topics, arguements, etc. Now if only UD, Topps and the like could just simply start taking a picture of what they make to help us out. I know that requires a lot of work for them but that would instantly give us collectors the confidence we need when bidding on singles and wanting to bust wax.
I won this yesterday...real
It's brother ended early last month. Different seller and location...real
Fake from aruba202...
The guy is definitely scum.
I'm glad I have some photo evidence that my patch is real, but it sucks that we have to do things like this to back up the validity of our cards.
Wouldn't it be difficult to fake patches in cards that have those small windows with a thin piece of cardboard between them like the Griffey in question? I imagine they would get damaged very easily.
It's brother ended early last month. Different seller and location...real
Fake from aruba202...
The guy is definitely scum.
I'm glad I have some photo evidence that my patch is real, but it sucks that we have to do things like this to back up the validity of our cards.
Wouldn't it be difficult to fake patches in cards that have those small windows with a thin piece of cardboard between them like the Griffey in question? I imagine they would get damaged very easily.
thefasterblade
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They should just start making patch cards with a protective seal over them. If the seal is broken, consider the patch fake.
RL24
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thefasterblade said:
Take it from me, nobody wants to hear it. I don't know why!
In 2002 they made Topps Gold Label MLB Awards Ceremony Relics with a protective seal over the swatch of material...
in 2004 they made Prime Cuts Material cards which were enclosed in a Beckett slab.
Both of those products found ways to make the patches completely tamper proof, one works well for high end products the other for low end products. Yet here we are, all these years later, and nobody really uses these ways to prevent tampering, and they haven't come up with anything new.
It has become painfully obvious that the card companies do not care about patch fakers on the secondary market. We keep buying their stuff, so we are telling them that it's OK with us that they don't care...
Who are any of us to say what is real and what is fake....
Are a childs fears real
Are a clowns tears real
Are the hopes and dreams of a new born kitten real
Are flowers that can't be smelled real
Are clouds made of cotton candy real
Are Reptilian people who can shape shift into our world leaders and have lived under ground for 5000 years when their space craft crashed on Earth after being shot down during an intergalactic war real
we are all just on this earth together, trying to figure out together, what is real and what is fake
I nominate this post for worst post of the year
Are a childs fears real
Are a clowns tears real
Are the hopes and dreams of a new born kitten real
Are flowers that can't be smelled real
Are clouds made of cotton candy real
Are Reptilian people who can shape shift into our world leaders and have lived under ground for 5000 years when their space craft crashed on Earth after being shot down during an intergalactic war real
we are all just on this earth together, trying to figure out together, what is real and what is fake
I nominate this post for worst post of the year
brouthercard
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Patch cards today are as real as a company's reputation and a seller's reputation. It's always been like this, even for autographs and game used jerseys. You put what faith you want to into your card purchase.
Billy Packer
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RL24 said:
You're right - as long as the manufacturers sell out of their product, they simply don't care about its integrity on the secondary market - it's not their problem. If I've said it once, I've said it a million times - if any company ever REALLY wanted to get serious about this issue, all they'd have to do is scan all the cards once they've been produced and put them up on a searchable database on their website. Minimal time and cost would be involved and the construction of the cards as produced would be 100% verifiable. The whole sordid business would go away overnight, at least for any new products being brought to market. Unitl they do this, the card companies are essentially giving the one finger salute to all of their paying customers.
Russ S.
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Awesome idea!!jbhofmann said:
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