Yankees closest to getting Hamels

[maxe0213]

Many teams have called on ace Cole Hamels, but so far one club has enticed the Phillies more than the others. Of the teams that have expressed interest in Hamels, the Yankees have come closer than anyone, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe writes. The Bombers have offered a package of prospects for the 31-year-old that at least has given the Phillies a baseline for future talks.
Trading Hamels, who pitched two strong innings in his spring training debut Friday against the Yankees, would help the Phillies kickstart their rebuilding efforts in earnest. However, they continue to insist that another team should take on the entirety of Hamels’ salary as well as part with top level prospects. Last month, Cafardo wrote that the Phillies seemed willing to wait it out for the right deal, perhaps even taking things up until the trade deadline.
The Red Sox have been heavily connected to Hamels this winter but Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported recently that talks have actually been dormant for weeks. Meanwhile, Cafardo hears that Cliff Lee could actually wind up changing uniforms before Hamels does.



Very interesting, I would assume they must be giving up some group of prospects headlined by Judge / Severino / Refsnyder / Bird or some combination of them. Plus some more mid to lower level guys.

 

[phillyfan0417]

Many teams have called on ace Cole Hamels, but so far one club has enticed the Phillies more than the others. Of the teams that have expressed interest in Hamels, the Yankees have come closer than anyone, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe writes. The Bombers have offered a package of prospects for the 31-year-old that at least has given the Phillies a baseline for future talks.
Trading Hamels, who pitched two strong innings in his spring training debut Friday against the Yankees, would help the Phillies kickstart their rebuilding efforts in earnest. However, they continue to insist that another team should take on the entirety of Hamels’ salary as well as part with top level prospects. Last month, Cafardo wrote that the Phillies seemed willing to wait it out for the right deal, perhaps even taking things up until the trade deadline.
The Red Sox have been heavily connected to Hamels this winter but Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported recently that talks have actually been dormant for weeks. Meanwhile, Cafardo hears that Cliff Lee could actually wind up changing uniforms before Hamels does.



Very interesting, I would assume they must be giving up some group of prospects headlined by Judge / Severino / Refsnyder / Bird or some combination of them. Plus some more mid to lower level guys.

With Lee's elbow hurting again, the last line is probably no longer true.

I think the phillies will wait to see if the red sox come to the table...

 

[maxe0213]

With Lee's elbow hurting again, the last line is probably no longer true.

I think the phillies will wait to see if the red sox come to the table...

Red Sox have already come to the table. They won't offer Swihart/Bogaerts/etc.

I hope that the Yankees don't make the trade but their farm system is much better than they get credit for especially after this recent international signing period.

 

[phillyfan0417]

Red Sox have already come to the table. They won't offer Swihart/Bogaerts/etc.

I hope that the Yankees don't make the trade but their farm system is much better than they get credit for especially after this recent international signing period.

I think the Red Sox made an offer hoping no one else jumped in and it didnt seem to be super serious. We'll see though...should be an interesting story to follow.

 

[maxe0213]

I think the Red Sox made an offer hoping no one else jumped in and it didnt seem to be super serious. We'll see though...should be an interesting story to follow.

Highly doubt that. I'm sure the Phillies are seeing that teams aren't willing to give up a bunch of top end guys AND pay the contract like the want.

 

[phillyfan0417]

Highly doubt that. I'm sure the Phillies are seeing that teams aren't willing to give up a bunch of top end guys AND pay the contract like the want.

Then I guess he'll stay. Based on the years and price teams are paying out, Hamels is a bargain. Hamels, Scherzer and lester are all within a year of each other in age and I know of those three, which contract i'd rather have...

 

[maxe0213]

Then I guess he'll stay. Based on the years and price teams are paying out, Hamels is a bargain. Hamels, Scherzer and lester are all with a year of eachother in age and I know of those three, which contract i'd rather have...

And if he stays, that would be the worst decision they could possibly make. The Phillies are SCREWED for years. They need the assets and payroll that getting rid of Hamels would give them.

 

[phillyfan0417]

And if he stays, that would be the worst decision they could possibly make. The Phillies are SCREWED for years. They need the assets and payroll that getting rid of Hamels would give them.

The phillies have so much money coming off their payroll over the next year or so with 60 million coming off this year and another 40 after next. Hamels is the only contract on the books for 2017. They can afford to wait for the right deal and if it doesnt come along, it doesnt kill them...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/PHI/2014-payroll-salaries.shtml

 

[maxe0213]

You can't replenish a broken farm system with money...

 

[phillyfan0417]

You can't replenish a broken farm system with money...

Agreed, so that leads back to getting the type of talent in return for the player.

 

[D-Lite]

Hamels would be a great addition to the Yanks but if the cost is blowing up the prospects they have been spending all winter not undermining with other free agent signings then pass. Seriously, adding Hamels now goes against everything they were working towards in not going for the big free agent pitchers in terms of contract length and cost and dumping the farm system they've been working on to rebuild the MLB team.

 

[Yanks2151]

Hamels would be a great addition to the Yanks but if the cost is blowing up the prospects they have been spending all winter not undermining with other free agent signings then pass. Seriously, adding Hamels now goes against everything they were working towards in not going for the big free agent pitchers in terms of contract length and cost and dumping the farm system they've been working on to rebuild the MLB team.

Very well put!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

And if he stays, that would be the worst decision they could possibly make. The Phillies are SCREWED for years. They need the assets and payroll that getting rid of Hamels would give them.

Hamels also keeps people coming to the park for every 5th day, is the face of the franchise after Utley retires, provides guidance to the young arms coming up, and is the only thing keeping them from a 40-122 season.