Yankees targeting Zambrano

[rymflaherty]

[quote="Jeff N.":3kl1riah]Quite a dropoff after Lee.....

Cliff Lee in a Zambrano thread, that guy shows up everywhere........ :lol:
Funny thing is all week on ESPN they have been running segments on "What will happen to the Yankees witout Lee?" Seriously, why not what will happen to the Rangers or any other team that could have signed a mega free agent. Odd Yankee bias on ESPN, the Yankees made the playoffs without Lee and could do it again without him.

This has to be one of the most dead-on comments ever made on these boards regarding the Yankees.

The Yankees are essentially the exact same team next year minus Pettitte at this point. If he comes back, they have almost the exact same roster with the addition of Russ Martin and the subtraction of some incidental relief pitchers such as dustin moseley.

What are we missing here?[/quote:3kl1riah]

I agree. Think there are an awful lot of teams/fans that wish they had the Yankees roster.
I know Cowherd was also talking about that this morning......that it's almost like they forget they have a 20 game winner in Sabathia. A young guy that keeps improving in Hughes, etc.etc.

That being said - it also is a perfect storm of events.
Expectations are to win championships......they did not last year.
It was one of the rare times that the "hot girl" looked at the money and the opportunity and flat out decline.
Then to top it off the Red Sox add Crawford and Gonzalez....Theo and now the Phillies have garnered all the attention and have now been the darlings of the off-season.

So I think it's that combination that has fueled the perception.

 

[Zambrano38]

As someone who lives in the Chicagoland area and listens extensively to local sports radio let me tell you Yankees fans you do not want this nut job. He isn’t one of those, “Oh, all he needs is the right environment to thrive,” kind of guys, he is certifiable.

He is a typical Cubs hype job. The guy had one good year and they threw the check book and 100 years of hopes at him and he cracked in every way. Pray this doesn’t go through.

He's averaged almost 14 wins, with a 64% winning percentage and a 3.43 ERA over the last 8 years. To say he's crazy and a nutcase is one thing because it is absolutely true, or that he has had some bad years, but to say he's had one good season in his career is almost as crazy as he is.

 

[miguelcabrera]

As someone who lives in the Chicagoland area and listens extensively to local sports radio let me tell you Yankees fans you do not want this nut job. He isn’t one of those, “Oh, all he needs is the right environment to thrive,” kind of guys, he is certifiable.

He is a typical Cubs hype job. The guy had one good year and they threw the check book and 100 years of hopes at him and he cracked in every way. Pray this doesn’t go through.

He's averaged almost 14 wins, with a 64% winning percentage and a 3.43 ERA over the last 8 years. To say he's crazy and a nutcase is one thing because it is absolutely true, or that he has had some bad years, but to say he's had one good season in his career is almost as crazy as he is.

He is one of my favorite pitchers in the game but i will hate him if he goes to the yanks. what will your opinion be of him if he does? sorry if that is too personal as i know your very secretive

 

[ChasHawk]

coltz - that was 2003, the same year the Yankees lost to the Marlins after the Cubs did.

As a Cubs fan, I'd be happy with Zambrano staying right where he is.

 

[Zambrano38]

Saw this on twitter:
MLB network says if Carlos Zambrano wants to pitch for the Yankees, both side will make it happen.

 

[jbone17]

This would be an absolute disaster if the Yankees traded the bat boy for this head case. This guy should have been kicked out of the game years ago for his childish acts. If he comes to the Yanks I see all Yankee fans should kick Cashman in the nads! If Zambrano comes to the Bronx, you might as well bring Pavano in to, hook them up with A.J. Burnett, and now you have a three ring circus!

 

[Canocollector#1]

Wood, Prior, Big Z? They sure seem to be fans of Cubs pitching.

Hahaha weird. Living in the past hmm?

In that case, Yankees don't you guys have any interest in former CY Young Winner Barry Zito ??!?!

It's because their new pitching coach was the pitching coach for the Cubs for the past 8 years. Rothschild is the one pushing this.

 

[jbone17]

Wood, Prior, Big Z? They sure seem to be fans of Cubs pitching.

Hahaha weird. Living in the past hmm?

In that case, Yankees don't you guys have any interest in former CY Young Winner Barry Zito ??!?!

It's because their new pitching coach was the pitching coach for the Cubs for the past 8 years. Rothschild is the one pushing this.

I am not a fan lol! :lol:

 

[yanksfan15]

If they don't give up too much for him it can't be that bad of a move I would not think.

 

[bcubs]

I can only hope the Yankees are able to pull this off.

 

[Mozzie22]

As someone who lives in the Chicagoland area and listens extensively to local sports radio let me tell you Yankees fans you do not want this nut job. He isn’t one of those, “Oh, all he needs is the right environment to thrive,” kind of guys, he is certifiable.

He is a typical Cubs hype job. The guy had one good year and they threw the check book and 100 years of hopes at him and he cracked in every way. Pray this doesn’t go through.

He's averaged almost 14 wins, with a 64% winning percentage and a 3.43 ERA over the last 8 years. To say he's crazy and a nutcase is one thing because it is absolutely true, or that he has had some bad years, but to say he's had one good season in his career is almost as crazy as he is.

Well how many "good" seasons would you say he's had?? The guy makes almost $19 million dollars a year and he averages 14 wins a year, he's never won 20 games in a year, he's never even been in the top 3 in Cy Young voting and the only thing I can find he's ever lead the league in is walks, twice! Oh, I guess he did lead in hit by pitch and home runs per 9 IP. He's 0-2 with a 4.34 ERA in postseason play (would be more except the Cubs don't get to the postseason) and to say he is a cancer on a team is a monumental understatement. But, if you're happy with him and his "good" seasons congratulations because you're going to be stuck with this fat meltdown for a few more years but look on the bright side he only cost you last year about the same as Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter combined.

 

[ffgameman]

Are these now the New York Cubs?

Wood, Prior, now Zambrano?

 

[ChasHawk]

As someone who lives in the Chicagoland area and listens extensively to local sports radio let me tell you Yankees fans you do not want this nut job. He isn’t one of those, “Oh, all he needs is the right environment to thrive,” kind of guys, he is certifiable.

He is a typical Cubs hype job. The guy had one good year and they threw the check book and 100 years of hopes at him and he cracked in every way. Pray this doesn’t go through.

He's averaged almost 14 wins, with a 64% winning percentage and a 3.43 ERA over the last 8 years. To say he's crazy and a nutcase is one thing because it is absolutely true, or that he has had some bad years, but to say he's had one good season in his career is almost as crazy as he is.

Well how many "good" seasons would you say he's had?? The guy makes almost $19 million dollars a year and he averages 14 wins a year, he's never won 20 games in a year, he's never even been in the top 3 in Cy Young voting and the only thing I can find he's ever lead the league in is walks, twice! Oh, I guess he did lead in hit by pitch and home runs per 9 IP. He's 0-2 with a 4.34 ERA in postseason play (would be more except the Cubs don't get to the postseason) and to say he is a cancer on a team is a monumental understatement. But, if you're happy with him and his "good" seasons congratulations because you're going to be stuck with this fat meltdown for a few more years but look on the bright side he only cost you last year about the same as Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter combined.

Blah, blah, blah...I'm a Cardinals fan. I pay more attention to the team I don't like than I do to my team.

 

[Mozzie22]

As someone who lives in the Chicagoland area and listens extensively to local sports radio let me tell you Yankees fans you do not want this nut job. He isn’t one of those, “Oh, all he needs is the right environment to thrive,” kind of guys, he is certifiable.

He is a typical Cubs hype job. The guy had one good year and they threw the check book and 100 years of hopes at him and he cracked in every way. Pray this doesn’t go through.

He's averaged almost 14 wins, with a 64% winning percentage and a 3.43 ERA over the last 8 years. To say he's crazy and a nutcase is one thing because it is absolutely true, or that he has had some bad years, but to say he's had one good season in his career is almost as crazy as he is.

Well how many "good" seasons would you say he's had?? The guy makes almost $19 million dollars a year and he averages 14 wins a year, he's never won 20 games in a year, he's never even been in the top 3 in Cy Young voting and the only thing I can find he's ever lead the league in is walks, twice! Oh, I guess he did lead in hit by pitch and home runs per 9 IP. He's 0-2 with a 4.34 ERA in postseason play (would be more except the Cubs don't get to the postseason) and to say he is a cancer on a team is a monumental understatement. But, if you're happy with him and his "good" seasons congratulations because you're going to be stuck with this fat meltdown for a few more years but look on the bright side he only cost you last year about the same as Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter combined.

Blah, blah, blah...I'm a Cardinals fan. I pay more attention to the team I don't like than I do to my team.

Wonderful comeback! It must hurt. :lol:

 

[Zambrano38]

As someone who lives in the Chicagoland area and listens extensively to local sports radio let me tell you Yankees fans you do not want this nut job. He isn’t one of those, “Oh, all he needs is the right environment to thrive,” kind of guys, he is certifiable.

He is a typical Cubs hype job. The guy had one good year and they threw the check book and 100 years of hopes at him and he cracked in every way. Pray this doesn’t go through.

He's averaged almost 14 wins, with a 64% winning percentage and a 3.43 ERA over the last 8 years. To say he's crazy and a nutcase is one thing because it is absolutely true, or that he has had some bad years, but to say he's had one good season in his career is almost as crazy as he is.

Well how many "good" seasons would you say he's had?? The guy makes almost $19 million dollars a year and he averages 14 wins a year, he's never won 20 games in a year, he's never even been in the top 3 in Cy Young voting and the only thing I can find he's ever lead the league in is walks, twice! Oh, I guess he did lead in hit by pitch and home runs per 9 IP. He's 0-2 with a 4.34 ERA in postseason play (would be more except the Cubs don't get to the postseason) and to say he is a cancer on a team is a monumental understatement. But, if you're happy with him and his "good" seasons congratulations because you're going to be stuck with this fat meltdown for a few more years but look on the bright side he only cost you last year about the same as Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter combined.

He hasn't made $19 million his whole career and what does that have to do with being good? That has to do with being overpaid, which he has been the last couple years. We obviously have different definitions of what "good" means. If you have to win 20 games and finish top 3 in Cy Young, then there are very few good pitchers out there. You do realize that in those 8 years, there have been a total of 8 20 game win seasons in the NL, and Oswalt is the only pitcher to do it twice. So by your standards there have only been 7 "good" pitchers in the NL the last 8 years. Of those 7 "good" pitchers in NL only Oswalt and Halladay have had more wins than Zambrano in that 8 year span, and yes I know wins are a terrible statistic. I guess you're a fan of a few good seasons rather than a consistent career...

 

[Mozzie22]

As someone who lives in the Chicagoland area and listens extensively to local sports radio let me tell you Yankees fans you do not want this nut job. He isn’t one of those, “Oh, all he needs is the right environment to thrive,” kind of guys, he is certifiable.

He is a typical Cubs hype job. The guy had one good year and they threw the check book and 100 years of hopes at him and he cracked in every way. Pray this doesn’t go through.

He's averaged almost 14 wins, with a 64% winning percentage and a 3.43 ERA over the last 8 years. To say he's crazy and a nutcase is one thing because it is absolutely true, or that he has had some bad years, but to say he's had one good season in his career is almost as crazy as he is.

Well how many "good" seasons would you say he's had?? The guy makes almost $19 million dollars a year and he averages 14 wins a year, he's never won 20 games in a year, he's never even been in the top 3 in Cy Young voting and the only thing I can find he's ever lead the league in is walks, twice! Oh, I guess he did lead in hit by pitch and home runs per 9 IP. He's 0-2 with a 4.34 ERA in postseason play (would be more except the Cubs don't get to the postseason) and to say he is a cancer on a team is a monumental understatement. But, if you're happy with him and his "good" seasons congratulations because you're going to be stuck with this fat meltdown for a few more years but look on the bright side he only cost you last year about the same as Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter combined.

He hasn't made $19 million his whole career and what does that have to do with being good? That has to do with being overpaid, which he has been the last couple years. We obviously have different definitions of what "good" means. If you have to win 20 games and finish top 3 in Cy Young, then there are very few good pitchers out there. You do realize that in those 8 years, there have been a total of 8 20 game win seasons in the NL, and Oswalt is the only pitcher to do it twice. So by your standards there have only been 7 "good" pitchers in the NL the last 8 years. Of those 7 "good" pitchers in NL only Oswalt and Halladay have had more wins than Zambrano in that 8 year span, and yes I know wins are a terrible statistic. I guess you're a fan of a few good seasons rather than a consistent career...

No, you don't have to have 20 wins to be a good pitcher but Zambrano is an average pitcher and an all-around terrible teammate. Even if you break this down into simplest terms and throw out the statistics you can end the argument this way. Do you want this pitcher on your team? The answer is no. Hell, even the Cubs want to dump his ass but nobody will take on the contract. The man beats up his own teammates!!!!! If this guy were Roy Halladay then maybe, maybe, I could see putting up with some of his crap but he isn't even in the same universe as Halladay or any other elite pitchers in the league.
You can not stand there in all honesty and say you are happy to have Carlos Zambrano on your team. Please, for the love of God, tell me you wouldn't trade this guy for a bag of balls at this point.

 

[MantMaris]

If Cashman makes this trade, I hope it is his last. I'd rather see Mitre get a shot at the job over picking up Z and I have little faith in Mitre.

 

[MantMaris]

Are these now the New York Cubs?

Wood, Prior, now Zambrano?

Don't forget Girardi with the Cubs tie in.

 

[vwnut13]

I hope the Yankees resign Wood.

 

[bcubs]

Quite a dropoff after Lee.....

Cliff Lee in a Zambrano thread, that guy shows up everywhere........ :lol:
Funny thing is all week on ESPN they have been running segments on "What will happen to the Yankees witout Lee?" Seriously, why not what will happen to the Rangers or any other team that could have signed a mega free agent. Odd Yankee bias on ESPN, the Yankees made the playoffs without Lee and could do it again without him.

What's so odd about ESPN Yankee bias? The only thing better in their eyes would be for Jerry Jones to figure out a way to sign him as a Cowboy.