tribefan2427
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i have to agree with you. 09 hasn't had any fakes come up.Ron_Mexico said:
07 has been faked big time. I can't even count all the yamon figurs fakes. on ebay.
i finally found one that actually looks legit.
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07 has been faked big time. I can't even count all the yamon figurs fakes. on ebay.
i finally found one that actually looks legit.
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Disagree if you want. For starters, stating there are zero 2009 RPA fakes out there is just as 'short sighted'. There have already been auctions for blank RPAs (refer to sportscardsuncensored) that are ripe for the picking.
I currently have scans of nine different Wells red RPA autos. Four of them were from the same seller in the last 8 weeks. Once I have more than 10, I'll post them all and let you decide. Perhaps I've been just lucky to get a picture off almost all of them already, and perhaps one person has managed to sell almost half of them.
When I have time I will post where each of the original RPAs I mentioned differs from the norm. If you feel up to it, look closely at that Moreno. The looped 'o' at the end is very distict in his real autos. I have 4 different real RPAs of his, as well as a UD Black and UD Threads. They all look the same with the elongated 'K' and slanted 'o'...not easy to replicate. The posted RPA above is short, very curved, and very suspect. I'll attach them shortly.
My RPAs:
ebay RPA:
Sorry, can't convince myself its from the same person.
I currently have scans of nine different Wells red RPA autos. Four of them were from the same seller in the last 8 weeks. Once I have more than 10, I'll post them all and let you decide. Perhaps I've been just lucky to get a picture off almost all of them already, and perhaps one person has managed to sell almost half of them.
When I have time I will post where each of the original RPAs I mentioned differs from the norm. If you feel up to it, look closely at that Moreno. The looped 'o' at the end is very distict in his real autos. I have 4 different real RPAs of his, as well as a UD Black and UD Threads. They all look the same with the elongated 'K' and slanted 'o'...not easy to replicate. The posted RPA above is short, very curved, and very suspect. I'll attach them shortly.
My RPAs:
ebay RPA:
Sorry, can't convince myself its from the same person.
wheeler281
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I have 5 rpa Wells reds.. When I get time I will scan them but they all look the same to me
You can not go by one loop brother. They all are different at times take My harvin for instance his P is a distinctive straight line hmmmm not so
These 2 Harvins are not even really that close LOL
my harvin
and ebay harvin look closeley the P is off does that mean it is fake??
How bout Holmes
these are are mine of course His "S" is very distinctive with his loop. hmmm not so However the top one is horrible and looks fake but is not. He alos uses a dash between first and last.
I just think you missed on this is all. You can disagree. Nothing wrong with that
Think you need more concrete proof then what you got. All your doing is putting out unfounded accusations that you are entitled too.
To think every auto is going to be exact is crazy talk. It just does not fit. There are more things right with the signatures then wrong, I will put it that way.
You can not go by one loop brother. They all are different at times take My harvin for instance his P is a distinctive straight line hmmmm not so
These 2 Harvins are not even really that close LOL
How bout Holmes
these are are mine of course His "S" is very distinctive with his loop. hmmm not so
However the top one is horrible and looks fake but is not. He alos uses a dash between first and last.
I just think you missed on this is all. You can disagree. Nothing wrong with that
Think you need more concrete proof then what you got. All your doing is putting out unfounded accusations that you are entitled too.To think every auto is going to be exact is crazy talk. It just does not fit. There are more things right with the signatures then wrong, I will put it that way.
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To play devil's advocate, I looked for completed listings of the 2009 RPA Moreno that looked similar. Here are two I found:
Good. I'm wrong, I can stop posting.
The sellers include wolverine24 and a person who has 30+ 2008 RPAs currently for sale, 40+ blue/red 2009 RPAs currently for sale, and 30+ completed listings in the past 15 days for blue/red 2009 RPAs. Also the one who has sold 4 Wells reds in 8 weeks.
I'm done arguing my point; I shouldn't have posted so blatantly. I know these guys have huge inventories and most/all of the cards are perfectly legit, and I know players sign 4 million autos and they all look a little different. Doesn't it make anyone else a little suspicious?
Good. I'm wrong, I can stop posting.
The sellers include wolverine24 and a person who has 30+ 2008 RPAs currently for sale, 40+ blue/red 2009 RPAs currently for sale, and 30+ completed listings in the past 15 days for blue/red 2009 RPAs. Also the one who has sold 4 Wells reds in 8 weeks.
I'm done arguing my point; I shouldn't have posted so blatantly. I know these guys have huge inventories and most/all of the cards are perfectly legit, and I know players sign 4 million autos and they all look a little different. Doesn't it make anyone else a little suspicious?
tikitomoka
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if wolverine or this burge fellow hadnt had those auctions, but rather someone with 1000+ positives with a 100% rating would you have still made this thread?
Crash Davis
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dinicon said:Disagree if you want. For starters, stating there are zero 2009 RPA fakes out there is just as 'short sighted'. There have already been auctions for blank RPAs (refer to sportscardsuncensored) that are ripe for the picking.
I currently have scans of nine different Wells red RPA autos. Four of them were from the same seller in the last 8 weeks. Once I have more than 10, I'll post them all and let you decide. Perhaps I've been just lucky to get a picture off almost all of them already, and perhaps one person has managed to sell almost half of them.
When I have time I will post where each of the original RPAs I mentioned differs from the norm. If you feel up to it, look closely at that Moreno. The looped 'o' at the end is very distict in his real autos. I have 4 different real RPAs of his, as well as a UD Black and UD Threads. They all look the same with the elongated 'K' and slanted 'o'...not easy to replicate. The posted RPA above is short, very curved, and very suspect. I'll attach them shortly.
My RPAs:
ebay RPA:
Sorry, can't convince myself its from the same person.
There was exactly ONE auction for a blank 2009 RPA. It's quite possible that the card slipped into packs. I've pulled a card missing an autograph before - in fact, it was a 1/1 from a very high-end Topps product - missing the sticker autograph. It happens.
As for the fact that you've accumulated almost 10 of the red Chris Wells - well, let's just say that these joker sellers have been claiming for years that the print run for these red signatures is 10, which is simply not true. It was true one year. Topps has not stated a print run for these cards in 2007, 2008 or 2009.
We can agree to disagree, but your assertion that these are definitive fakes are based on two distinct observations that you have collectively stated as fact:
1) A players signature should look the same at all times; and,
2) Kevin Burge, or one of his cronies, is selling these cards.
Put the two points together and, in your mind, these are 100% fakes.
I respect your opinion; however, I just don't see it the way that you do.
