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Liberate Baltimore said:
It was nice to see YOUUUUKKKKK roid rage on Porcello. Throwing his batting helmet at a 20 year-old and still getting tackled like a wuss. Maybe YOUUUKKKKK had a bunch of pent up aggression from last weekend. Good job YOUUUKKKKK, and an extra kudo's to Red Sox Nation (8,000,000 chapters added since 2004) for standing up and cheering for him.

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Youk has always reminded me of the biker from the Village people. I guess the Indian broke up with him earlier in the day. Or someone stole his assless leather chaps and leather vest to set him off?
 

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At least Porcello has something to show for his season that he has a 10-7 record, 4.34 ERA, 1.40 Whip, and a k/9 of only 4.6.

Looking at numbers also makes me wonder why people say Youk is overrated...
24th BA
3rd OBP
4th OPS

3 less HR than Miguel Cabrera in 60 less AB's.
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
At least Porcello has something to show for his season that he has a 10-7 record, 4.34 ERA, 1.40 Whip, and a k/9 of only 4.6.

For a 20 year old pitcher, that doesnt look too bad. Lots of room for improvement, but those numbers look like theres some talent to improve upoN!
 

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JzWand said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
At least Porcello has something to show for his season that he has a 10-7 record, 4.34 ERA, 1.40 Whip, and a k/9 of only 4.6.

For a 20 year old pitcher, that doesnt look too bad. Lots of room for improvement, but those numbers look like theres some talent to improve upoN!

No doubt. But just for this season, he's been average at best.
 

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As someone who isn't a fan of either team - I don't think Porcello meant to hit Youk - it looked like an off-speed pitch that didn't break.

Also, nice move by Porcello to take down Youk.
 

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KOBEARODLT said:
YOUK is weakkk are you kidding me...threw the helmet and had a chance to push him down and porcello through him
i couldn't agree more.
Way to go rick for owning him
 

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I'm glad someone posted that picture because you can clearly see that it wasn't just a crappy throwdown that only had to do with momentum. You can see that Porcello's feet are planted to the side of Youk's and he has double underhooks on him as Sam said. He also uses his hip for leverage to take him down. Maybe I'm stretching it, but that looks like a judo throw straight into side control :lol:
 

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To the Jewish posters on here, stop defending Youkilis just because he is a fellow Jew.
What he did was wrong and Porcello was just acting in self-defense because Youkilis threw his helmet at him first. Youkilis deserved to be taken down the way he was. It's baseball and pitchers hit batters in retaliation for someone being hit on their team all the time.
 

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steve76 said:
To the Jewish posters on here, stop defending Youkilis just because he is a fellow Jew.
What he did was wrong and Porcello was just acting in self-defense because Youkilis threw his helmet at him first. Youkilis deserved to be taken down the way he was. It's baseball and pitchers hit batters in retaliation for someone being hit on their team all the time.


::facepalm::

What an idiot
 

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I thought the whole thing was pretty funny.

I would've liked to see Porcello defend himself more, but, I think he was doing it to avoid suspensions/fines since he is still very young and doesnt want to have anything bad happen to him yet.

Youk isnt a big dude but he gets pissed off easy.

The takedown was good though
 

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What an idiot

Why else would several people be defending a guy (Youkilis) who was clearly in the wrong?
He shouldn't have taken it personal and he should have just sucked it up and made his way to first base like most other players who are hit by pitches.
 

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Just want to throw out one thing for all those saying "Youk is tired of getting hit".

If Youk is so tired of getting hit, he may want to talk to his teams pitching coach or the pitchers and teach them about pitching inside. Anyone want to guess who is #2 in the MLB in Hit Batters? Yes, it's the Boston Red Sox.

Anyone in baseball knows it's basically an "eye for an eye" when it comes to hit batters. And when one gets hit, generally one of the better hitters on the other team is going to get hit...and that's Youk when it comes to the Red Sox.

And to top it off, not only are the #2 in Hit Batters, they're #26 in Wild Pitches and #24 in walks. How does a team with such great control have so many hit batters??? Hmmmmm...

So if Youk wants to be pissed about hit so many times, he may want to start with his OWN pitching staff and talk to them...I'd be curious as to how many of the 10 times he's been hit, they were as retaliation...
 

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Not sure if this was mentioned here as I can't read through 15 pages now, but here are some thoughts on the 1B umpire, Jerry Crawford, from Keith Law.

... it's time MLB took a more serious look at Tuesday's first base ump and crew chief, Jerry Crawford.

This is Crawford’s second major incident of the month, after Friday’s egregious blown call and subsequent outburst against Arizona manager A.J. Hinch... [Tossing Porcello] was incompetence at best and cowing to a hostile Fenway crowd at worst. Crawford’s involvement in two on-field blowups, both featuring bad umpiring decisions, calls into question his fitness to umpire major league games, especially ones with playoff implications like Tuesday’s.

A number of fans here in AZ, including myself, are pretty pissed at the way this ump acted in last week's game. He was out of line, visibly bumped Hinch a number of times, and then went off on the dugout, and specifically Dan Haren, after Haren asked him why Hinch was thrown out (asked him calmly, I might add). Crawford did nothing to calm the situation, and it seems like a similar incident occurred in Boston last night (though I haven't actually seen it yet). Time to review this guy Bud!
 

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nkdbacks said:
Not sure if this was mentioned here as I can't read through 15 pages now, but here are some thoughts on the 1B umpire, Jerry Crawford, from Keith Law.

... it's time MLB took a more serious look at Tuesday's first base ump and crew chief, Jerry Crawford.

This is Crawford’s second major incident of the month, after Friday’s egregious blown call and subsequent outburst against Arizona manager A.J. Hinch... [Tossing Porcello] was incompetence at best and cowing to a hostile Fenway crowd at worst. Crawford’s involvement in two on-field blowups, both featuring bad umpiring decisions, calls into question his fitness to umpire major league games, especially ones with playoff implications like Tuesday’s.

A number of fans here in AZ, including myself, are pretty pissed at the way this ump acted in last week's game. He was out of line, visibly bumped Hinch a number of times, and then went off on the dugout, and specifically Dan Haren, after Haren asked him why Hinch was thrown out (asked him calmly, I might add). Crawford did nothing to calm the situation, and it seems like a similar incident occurred in Boston last night (though I haven't actually seen it yet). Time to review this guy Bud!
Sounds like NBA refs (Steve Javey, Crawford and others) who have senority and know that there's no way they can get removed as an offical and take adantage of it...
 

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aw00d05 said:
nkdbacks said:
Not sure if this was mentioned here as I can't read through 15 pages now, but here are some thoughts on the 1B umpire, Jerry Crawford, from Keith Law.

... it's time MLB took a more serious look at Tuesday's first base ump and crew chief, Jerry Crawford.

This is Crawford’s second major incident of the month, after Friday’s egregious blown call and subsequent outburst against Arizona manager A.J. Hinch... [Tossing Porcello] was incompetence at best and cowing to a hostile Fenway crowd at worst. Crawford’s involvement in two on-field blowups, both featuring bad umpiring decisions, calls into question his fitness to umpire major league games, especially ones with playoff implications like Tuesday’s.

A number of fans here in AZ, including myself, are pretty pissed at the way this ump acted in last week's game. He was out of line, visibly bumped Hinch a number of times, and then went off on the dugout, and specifically Dan Haren, after Haren asked him why Hinch was thrown out (asked him calmly, I might add). Crawford did nothing to calm the situation, and it seems like a similar incident occurred in Boston last night (though I haven't actually seen it yet). Time to review this guy Bud!
Sounds like NBA refs (Steve Javey, Crawford and others) who have senority and know that there's no way they can get removed as an offical and take adantage of it...

That's what I believe as well. I think he has something like 33 years of service, so it's not like he is going anywhere.
 

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nkdbacks said:
Not sure if this was mentioned here as I can't read through 15 pages now, but here are some thoughts on the 1B umpire, Jerry Crawford, from Keith Law.

... it's time MLB took a more serious look at Tuesday's first base ump and crew chief, Jerry Crawford.

This is Crawford’s second major incident of the month, after Friday’s egregious blown call and subsequent outburst against Arizona manager A.J. Hinch... [Tossing Porcello] was incompetence at best and cowing to a hostile Fenway crowd at worst. Crawford’s involvement in two on-field blowups, both featuring bad umpiring decisions, calls into question his fitness to umpire major league games, especially ones with playoff implications like Tuesday’s.

A number of fans here in AZ, including myself, are pretty pissed at the way this ump acted in last week's game. He was out of line, visibly bumped Hinch a number of times, and then went off on the dugout, and specifically Dan Haren, after Haren asked him why Hinch was thrown out (asked him calmly, I might add). Crawford did nothing to calm the situation, and it seems like a similar incident occurred in Boston last night (though I haven't actually seen it yet). Time to review this guy Bud!

I saw the start of this article but am not a subscriber so I was hoping someone would post more of it. It's completely true, the Boston crowd was chanting "throw him out" after youk was long gone and porcello's fate was being decided.

In reality, there's no way he should have been tossed. He did nothing wrong. Intentional or not, the umps hadn't even warned either team yet. Youkilis flat out charged the mound because he can't control his emotions (as usual) and didn't like the inside pitch. So Porcello gets thrown out of the game for hitting a batter because youkilis loses his temper (like always) and charges the mound, making a much bigger deal out of the situation.

If he had just trotted to first (which he seems to be unable to do when he gets hit, he always has to cry and whine like a little girl), neither player would have been ejected and that probably would have been the end of the whole throwing at each other situation between these two teams.

But yes, this article is spot on. Porcello was unfairly tossed. Just look at his reaction and look at the situation. He's got a 3-0 lead in a game the Tigers need to win to keep some room between them and the ChiSox in the division race, why would he be intentionally throwing at someone when he's trying to win a ballgame?
 

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ALL_THE_HYPE said:
nkdbacks said:
Not sure if this was mentioned here as I can't read through 15 pages now, but here are some thoughts on the 1B umpire, Jerry Crawford, from Keith Law.

... it's time MLB took a more serious look at Tuesday's first base ump and crew chief, Jerry Crawford.

This is Crawford’s second major incident of the month, after Friday’s egregious blown call and subsequent outburst against Arizona manager A.J. Hinch... [Tossing Porcello] was incompetence at best and cowing to a hostile Fenway crowd at worst. Crawford’s involvement in two on-field blowups, both featuring bad umpiring decisions, calls into question his fitness to umpire major league games, especially ones with playoff implications like Tuesday’s.

A number of fans here in AZ, including myself, are pretty pissed at the way this ump acted in last week's game. He was out of line, visibly bumped Hinch a number of times, and then went off on the dugout, and specifically Dan Haren, after Haren asked him why Hinch was thrown out (asked him calmly, I might add). Crawford did nothing to calm the situation, and it seems like a similar incident occurred in Boston last night (though I haven't actually seen it yet). Time to review this guy Bud!

I saw the start of this article but am not a subscriber so I was hoping someone would post more of it. It's completely true, the Boston crowd was chanting "throw him out" after youk was long gone and porcello's fate was being decided.

In reality, there's no way he should have been tossed. He did nothing wrong. Intentional or not, the umps hadn't even warned either team yet. Youkilis flat out charged the mound because he can't control his emotions (as usual) and didn't like the inside pitch. So Porcello gets thrown out of the game for hitting a batter because youkilis loses his temper (like always) and charges the mound, making a much bigger deal out of the situation.

If he had just trotted to first (which he seems to be unable to do when he gets hit, he always has to cry and whine like a little girl), neither player would have been ejected and that probably would have been the end of the whole throwing at each other situation between these two teams.

But yes, this article is spot on. Porcello was unfairly tossed. Just look at his reaction and look at the situation. He's got a 3-0 lead in a game the Tigers need to win to keep some room between them and the ChiSox in the division race, why would he be intentionally throwing at someone when he's trying to win a ballgame?

Pretty ridiculous question given that he threw at Victor the inning before.
 

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good post.

I saw the start of this article but am not a subscriber so I was hoping someone would post more of it. It's completely true, the Boston crowd was chanting "throw him out" after youk was long gone and porcello's fate was being decided.

In reality, there's no way he should have been tossed. He did nothing wrong. Intentional or not, the umps hadn't even warned either team yet. Youkilis flat out charged the mound because he can't control his emotions (as usual) and didn't like the inside pitch. So Porcello gets thrown out of the game for hitting a batter because youkilis loses his temper (like always) and charges the mound, making a much bigger deal out of the situation.

If he had just trotted to first (which he seems to be unable to do when he gets hit, he always has to cry and whine like a little girl), neither player would have been ejected and that probably would have been the end of the whole throwing at each other situation between these two teams.

But yes, this article is spot on. Porcello was unfairly tossed. Just look at his reaction and look at the situation. He's got a 3-0 lead in a game the Tigers need to win to keep some room between them and the ChiSox in the division race, why would he be intentionally throwing at someone when he's trying to win a ballgame?[/quote]
 
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