Yu Darvish loses a No-Hitter with 2 outs in the 9th.

[rsmath]

David Ortiz is asking MLB to overturn the error on the popup and make it a hit. As a hitter, I can't blame him since it will raise his batting average some microscopic amount.

I think MLB will deny the request on two grounds - it was not the difference between a no-hitter and a 1-hitter and that the Rangers official scorer did not make an unreasonable scoring decision.

 

[BBCgalaxee]

A routine pop up which falls between two fielders who are camped out beneath it is an error. Don't care what Ortiz thinks, that's just dumb.

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[SINFULONE]

I think it should be an error too.Does commissioner ever change these calls?One of these times he will get his no hitter.

 

[rsmath]

.Does commissioner ever change these calls?One of these times he will get his no hitter.

I don't think the commish has ever forced a scoring change. I know official scorers occasionally will revisit and sometimes change a scoring decision, but I think based on the quote in the newspaper, the Rangers official scorer will be sticking to his guns and won't change a thing unless forced to by MLB HQ.

As for Darvish, he better get his no-no soon. We know japanese hurlers seem to flame out after their first few seasons for whatever reason, maybe because there is a big book of tendencies about them after their first few seasons and MLB hitters start to have success.

 

[Bootstraps9]

A routine pop up which falls between two fielders who are camped out beneath it is an error. Don't care what Ortiz thinks, that's just dumb.

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Couldn't agree more! It's professional baseball. That should always be and should have always been an error. As we all know though, baseball takes about a decade to change its tendencies (replay, steroids, etc.) so maybe by 2024 that will always be an error.

 

[SINFULONE]

I don't think the commish has ever forced a scoring change. I know official scorers occasionally will revisit and sometimes change a scoring decision, but I think based on the quote in the newspaper, the Rangers official scorer will be sticking to his guns and won't change a thing unless forced to by MLB HQ.

As for Darvish, he better get his no-no soon. We know japanese hurlers seem to flame out after their first few seasons for whatever reason, maybe because there is a big book of tendencies about them after their first few seasons and MLB hitters start to have success.

Doesn't Selig have the power to overturn calls like that?Years ago I remember hoping he would change Joyce's bad call so Galarrago would get his perfect game, but he wouldn't.

Yeah, those guys flame out quickly.Nomo had some sucess near the end of his career after he looked like he was toast though.

 

[Brewer Andy]

They can't go back and change a safe call to an out (like the Gallaraga case) but yes, they do (often enough) review scores and change hits to errors and errors to hits. Scooter Gennett just had a hit taken away and changed to an error last week from a game played 2 weeks ago

 

[rsmath]

They can't go back and change a safe call to an out (like the Gallaraga case)

they can't overturn a ump call, but they could trump up some reason to call it an error.

I'm glad the Commish isn't sticking his nose in scoring decisions even with his power to do so if he wanted. It'd open up a big can of worms with regards to official scorers and baseball records.

 

[Austin]

Wow, MLB just changed the error in the 7th inning to a hit!
Imagine if that was the only hit Darvish let up and his no-hitter was taken away.

ESPN -- Major League Baseball has changed the call on a ball hit by David Ortiz in the seventh inning of Yu Darvish's near no-hitter last Friday from an error to a single.

The ball, which was hit in the air to right field and fell between second baseman Rougned Odor and right fielder Alex Rios, was initially ruled an error by official scorer Steve Weller.

The play ended Darvish's perfect-game bid but kept the Rangers' ace's no-hitter intact. Darvish carried the no-hitter through 8 2/3 innings, until Ortiz singled through the shift to end his bid.

Texas beat the Red Sox 8-0. After the game, Weller explained his decision.

"In my judgment, when the ball goes up in the air, I felt like the second baseman or right fielder under normal effort could have caught the ball," Weller said through a pool reporter. "Under the rule, 10.12a1, it clearly states that a fly ball that lands -- that's allowed to hit the ground, that in the judgment of the official scorer under normal effort could be caught -- you're to award an error on the play."

However, after reviewing the play upon Ortiz's request, MLB did not agree. A player or team must request a scoring play be reviewed for MLB to take a look.

As is routine on the numerous scoring appeals each week, the league didn't provide an explanation for the reversal.

 

[SINFULONE]

Still thought it should have been an error.

 

[rsmath]

Can of worms opened. Commissioner gets to play God with regards to no-hitters and milestones.

Shows me what I know about Bonehead Selig - I never thought he'd overrule the official scorer on a scoring decision that I thought was reasonable. I thought he'd only use his power is a scoring decision was obviously wrong.

Guess that means Jeter is next - he'll be crowned the hit king when Bonehead goes over every error on a Jeter hit ball to make most of them hits.

 

[BBCgalaxee]

How ridiculous!

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[Brewer Andy]

Can of worms opened. Commissioner gets to play God with regards to no-hitters and milestones.

Shows me what I know about Bonehead Selig - I never thought he'd overrule the official scorer on a scoring decision that I thought was reasonable. I thought he'd only use his power is a scoring decision was obviously wrong.

Guess that means Jeter is next - he'll be crowned the hit king when Bonehead goes over every error on a Jeter hit ball to make most of them hits.

They do this all the time. Had it been a no hitter otherwise no way it would have been changed. I agree however that they just screwed up a correct scoring decision. That was an effing error

 

[rsmath]

They do this all the time. Had it been a no hitter otherwise no way it would have been changed. I agree however that they just screwed up a correct scoring decision. That was an effing error

this is the first commish scoring change I can remember.

The rest I can remember were scoring changes made by the official scorer after further reconsideration.