Any vintage game used experts out there?

[JoshHamilton]

My buddy owns a pawn shop in Texas. A guy sold this to him for $30.

 

[JoshHamilton]

Dammit, still trying to get the hang of the site software

The player is Ernie Orsatti. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_Orsatti

I know NOTHING about vintage gamers. It passes the eyeball test, stitched everything, wool (flannel?) jersey, "Orsatti 3 30" on the back.

One one hand, why would a Cardinals gamer show up in a random pawn shop in TX? On the other hand, why would anyone fake an unknown player's jersey? Did they sell them in sporting goods stores back in the 30's?

 

[JoshHamilton]

I forgot to take a good picture of the tag, because of course I didn't. It's Spalding & Co, circular design, which I'll try to match with 1930's STL jerseys.

I'm gonna buy it from him for $75. If its fake, @sambanks will get a unique birthday present soon

 

[jeremy2]

its real. cut that thing up and make sone sick patch cards.

 

[George_Calfas]

I forgot to take a good picture of the tag, because of course I didn't. It's Spalding & Co, circular design, which I'll try to match with 1930's STL jerseys.

I'm gonna buy it from him for $75. If its fake, @sambanks will get a unique birthday present soon

This might help date the jersey--http://www.antiquesportscollector.com/TagsMain.html If you want more info let me know.

Also, if you move the jersey please, and not to Sam, please let me know, thanks.

 

[JoshHamilton]

This might help date the jersey--http://www.antiquesportscollector.com/TagsMain.html If you want more info let me know.

Also, if you move the jersey please, and not to Sam, please let me know, thanks.

Thanks for the help, George. Sam was the only Cardinals collector I could think of. If real, I'll definitely contact you first. I was just gonna give it to him if it was fake

This is the one. 1925-35. Matches up with when he played for them.

 

[JoshHamilton]

If real, it was worn before 1932. That's the year they started putting numbers on the back.

One thing that concerns me: here's Dizzy Dean from the early 30's

Notice how the red pinstripe ends at the logo. Mine goes all the way down

 

[Super Mario]

Thanks for the help, George. Sam was the only Cardinals collector I could think of. If real, I'll definitely contact you first. I was just gonna give it to him if it was fake

This is the one. 1925-35. Matches up with when he played for them.

Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick, lol.


You can give it to George if he wants it, and you want to get rid of it. He's a solid dude.

 

[Super Mario]

I just don't know what's up with the stitching on the sleeve. Only red flag I see, and it's a big one. I've personally never seen that. But like Will said, why would anyone fake this random dude's jersey?

 

[MrMet]

ok, so, i was bored

Ernie Orsatti played for the Cards from 1927 to 1935.

The HOF has an online exhibit of uniforms that you can view. Here is a link the uniforms from the period that Orsatti played...

http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame....ear=1927&highYear=1935&sort=year&increment=18

The 1929 Home Jersey looks pretty darn close....
http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.....asp?fileName=nl_1929_stlouis.gif&Entryid=471

That was fun, and I hope it helped some

 

[Kid4hof03]

In those days (really all the way up until the 80's) many if not most teams would recycle jerseys by sending them to the minor leagues where names and numbers would be removed and/or replaced, if the team name was the same they would leave it in tact but something could easily be added to the sleeves in it's second life. Also, a lot of teams donated their uniforms to boys clubs, youth leagues and the like so it could have been reused in many different ways, that would give some clue if not an explanation for the sleeves.

 

[JoshHamilton]

MrMet, that's a HUGE help! Thanks.

I saw another GU Cardinals jersey from 1932 that had "3 32 44," with 44 being the jersey number. It gives me hope since this one says "3 30" (March 1930, when the season started and uniforms were issued), and uniform #'s weren't used at that time.

Looks like 1929-1930 have the pinstripes running to the bottom on home jerseys. If it is real, it's from one of those two years. Most likely '30

 

[MrMet]

No problem, if its real, thats an awesome find

 

[gracecollector]

Very cool. If it was issued in 1930, that's a Cardinals World Series championship year, so should get a little more attention.

1930 Team Photo with Orsatti, and uniforms with stitching down middle:

 

[LWMM]

Post this on gameusedforum.com, you should get some more info there.

 

[Topnotchsy]

The guys at net54 should be able to help as well. Sweet item.

 

[JoshHamilton]

At the advice of a member, I contacted Jeff Scott at birdsbats.net. He thinks its legit.

Pretty cool. No idea about the value though

 

[George_Calfas]

At the advice of a member, I contacted Jeff Scott at birdsbats.net. He thinks its legit.

Pretty cool. No idea about the value though

If you move it you might want to go to an auction house. Looking into it to make an offer and I guess it is $500-1000 min. I now this is a wide range but who knows with the player. I paid $300 for a 1920-early 30s cardinals common player jacket and a jersey should do better.

Nice find!

 

[A_Pharis]

Wow. Lucky sob.

 

[Brewer Andy]

Regardless of value or player (or crummy team!).......that is awesome