ugghh, vent

boomo · Feb 22, 2012

I will never get how people put common cards that are easy to
research at ridiculous BIN's, but when a card that sells for 30 bucks
every time it is listed that i offer 35 on gets countered with 55 i just
wanna punch stuff. In this day and age is there really any chance
that a guy with 20,000 feedbacks is going to now know exactly
what to offer, specially on a freaking billy butler card i want !!!!!!!!!!!

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Ty Hope · Feb 22, 2012

There was a card I wanted that normally sells for $25. His BIN was $80. I offered $35. He replies with "I have two offers of $65 now and cant take less." The time runs out, he relists for $65... Hmm wonder where his two offers of $65 went?

1st4040 · Feb 22, 2012

I don't understand how there are sooo many auctions for Canseco 86 Topps traded and 87 topps.. don't people see that there are endless amounts of these already posted without anyone buying so get the point and don't bother???

matfanofold · Feb 22, 2012

@ boomo

It's too bad this is no longer just a hobby for you to enjoy. Not to be judgmental, but going off of your recent posting habbit(s), I'd say you are near or past the point of frustration with many things card collecting brings. This is unfortunate. Hopefully you can find a way to overlook what you can not control without evoking anger and be at peace with the hobby(or your involvment within it) once more.

boomo · Feb 22, 2012

matfanofold said:
@ boomo

It's too bad this is no longer just a hobby for you to enjoy. Not to be judgmental, but going off of your recent posting habbit(s), I'd say you are near or past the point of frustration with many things card collecting brings. This is unfortunate. Hopefully you can find a way to overlook what you can not control without evoking anger and be at peace with the hobby(or your involvment within it) once more.

i appreciate your thoughts, and you are right between being sick and
some of the dumbness i encounter i do get pissy at times, but i still
try and be positive also. And i do love doing this work.

ChasHawk · Feb 22, 2012

I love this hobby too, but what Matt posted pisses me off just as much.

It seems that almost every nicer Dawson card listed lately is a ridiculously high BIN/BO.

morgoth · Feb 22, 2012

ChasHawk said:
I love this hobby too, but what Matt posted pisses me off just as much.

It seems that almost every nicer Dawson card listed lately is a ridiculously high BIN/BO.

Ebay and it's turn to BIN over the auction format has ushered in a new dawn for Card Shows and Card Shops.

I have much more fun at local and national card shows now than I ever did 5 years ago. You can actually find DEALS and see the cards in person and make trades, all without wondering if you will have to file a chargeback on your credit card and wait 40 days.

I actually look for card shops when going through cities again as you never know what you could find.

The main reason is that pricing on Ebay is getting crazy. Between the shill bidding on auctions to the stupid BIN prices I would rather wait for a show to pick up the same material.

vwnut13 · Feb 22, 2012

ronnyo is horrible.

Buys cards and prices them at 5+ times what he paid. I don't know how he handles offers, because I have never even tried, why bother.

Pinbreaker · Feb 22, 2012

vwnut13 said:
ronnyo is horrible.

Buys cards and prices them at 5+ times what he paid. I don't know how he handles offers, because I have never even tried, why bother.

He's not the only one..

there are sellers that buy things cheap and then put them in their store for 5 or 10 times what it would sell for.. Then they put a 50% off sale on it thinking someone will see it and think they need it now at the 50% off..

boomo · Feb 22, 2012

vwnut13 said:
ronnyo is horrible.

Buys cards and prices them at 5+ times what he paid. I don't know how he handles offers, because I have never even tried, why bother.

these people seem to live and die by pt barnum, and as true as it is,
there arent a whole lot of suckers in this game unless a jeremy lin comes along.
there sure as hell isnt anyone on earth who will pay 800 for a butler gold ref now.
that sucker just isnt there, so why not just end the item if you dont want to sell it.

morgoth · Feb 22, 2012

boomo said:
vwnut13 said:

ronnyo is horrible.

Buys cards and prices them at 5+ times what he paid. I don't know how he handles offers, because I have never even tried, why bother.

Click to expand...

these people seem to live and die by pt barnum, and as true as it is,
there arent a whole lot of suckers in this game unless a jeremy lin comes along.
there sure as hell isnt anyone on earth who will pay 800 for a butler gold ref now.
that sucker just isnt there, so why not just end the item if you dont want to sell it.

Stubborness

Card collectors IMO are some of the most stubborn people out there when it comes to taking a loss. It seems people would rather keep a card than lose money on it now and hope the player can do better.

707 in vintage is like that, even though SMR and VCP has gone down on some sets by as much as 45% (T202 for one) they will not budge on their pricing.

P_Manning 18 · Feb 22, 2012

I had a card recently that I wanted. A seller had it up for $250 BIN/BO. I sent in an offer of $215 and he countered with $222. I immediately declined. Very next day he sends an email. Ill sell for $215. :lol:

ktho540 · Feb 22, 2012

A lot of sellers on Ebay,including myself at times,like to go fishing for suckers!!!!Sometimes you get a bite....

boomo · Feb 22, 2012

morgoth said:
boomo said:

vwnut13 said:

ronnyo is horrible.

Buys cards and prices them at 5+ times what he paid. I don't know how he handles offers, because I have never even tried, why bother.

Click to expand...

these people seem to live and die by pt barnum, and as true as it is,
there arent a whole lot of suckers in this game unless a jeremy lin comes along.
there sure as hell isnt anyone on earth who will pay 800 for a butler gold ref now.
that sucker just isnt there, so why not just end the item if you dont want to sell it.

Click to expand...

Stubborness

Card collectors IMO are some of the most stubborn people out there when it comes to taking a loss. It seems people would rather keep a card than lose money on it now and hope the player can do better.

707 in vintage is like that, even though SMR and VCP has gone down on some sets by as much as 45% (T202 for one) they will not budge on their pricing.

and this is like admitting you have zero faith in yourself.
if i have 500 into a card and i know sure as sht im not getting that back,
but i can get 350 back? well my feeling is i have faith in my ability
to work deals and flip cards that ill spend that 350 right and turn it into
600. The 1st scenario is done and gone and im still plus 100. Ill never understand
huge inventories that arent doing any work for you. Only cash in your pocket
can work for you, not delmon young staring back at you in his 10th season
begging you to still have faith.

boomo · Feb 22, 2012

ktho540 said:
A lot of sellers on Ebay,including myself at times,like to go fishing for suckers!!!!Sometimes you get a bite....

sure if you put your 99 cent blue ref in your store and get 8 bucks for it.
but you wont get 150 for a 35.00 griffey auto anymore, just will not happen
....... ever.

Bob Loblaw · Feb 22, 2012

vwnut13 said:
ronnyo is horrible.

Buys cards and prices them at 5+ times what he paid. I don't know how he handles offers, because I have never even tried, why bother.

I throw offers at him quite often, and he's typically completely unreasonable. Keep hoping he'll change.

However, in one situation, he had two serially #ed cards in two separate BINs. Same card, different #s. Listed for $12. He accepted one offer of $5. Rejected the other. :?

Of course, now I have to pay full shipping for 1 card when I was hoping to do it for two...

ChasHawk · Feb 22, 2012

http://myworld.ebay.com/vintagesnowmobiles

And either he sold some inventory or got another ID...

http://myworld.ebay.com/griffeyjrfan24/

morgoth · Feb 22, 2012

Its funny I just offered $10 bucks on a card listed at $12 and was auto rejected but he took my offer of $11. Lot of work to make a buck nowadays.

FrostyCollects · Feb 22, 2012

It's just not eBay but also other sites like Beckett Marketplace and COMC. I'm sure many of you know Card Gallery from Beckett Marketplace...wow, crazy prices. I've bounced e-mail with him several times...he would not budge...not even for offers that are still way over market. He keeps coming up with the same nonsense... He would say something like "I spent $200 on this box so I have to break even..." and lists several inserts from that very box at $100-250 each... Yeah, good attempt at breaking even...

I think the usual problem with such dealers is that they did sell some outrageously-priced cards to the rich/impatient/uneducated collectors so they feel they can duplicate such success for other cards....biding their time for the next buyer of that type. If they're that stubborn, then there's nothing we can do about it...and just wait for other examples to turn up.

George_Calfas · Feb 22, 2012

ChasHawk said:
http://myworld.ebay.com/vintagesnowmobiles

And either he sold some inventory or got another ID...

http://myworld.ebay.com/griffeyjrfan24/

Mike (vintage) and Jeff (Griffey or teawolves) are buddies.

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