Heads up on an eBay Crook!

MGiuseffi · Jul 19, 2012

Hey all. I don't post here much... More of a lurker. Many of you have bought from me via the bay over the years. Consider this a public service message. I recently sold a sealed case of Pro Debut via auction:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170859618839?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649

The buyer never paid and I filed a non paying bidder. I block the bidder and relist the case and it sells again to the SAME dude under a different ID:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170869489097?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649

This time he pays and I send the case with Signature Confirmation. He opened the entire case and then sent me an email saying some of the cards were damaged and he wants a FULL refund. I should add, I double boxed the case before shipping. I told him that if he had some damaged cards he could contact Topps. He filed an eBay claim and even stated in the claim that it was NOT the sellers fault. In eBay's infinite wisdom they ruled in his favor... Long story short, save your self some trouble and block this guy. BTW, he calls himself Taylor Cool (Most likely an alias) and his address is in Woodburn IN.

moxacaine · Jul 19, 2012

Wow, thats pretty pathetic. Sorry to hear that.

What are both of the IDs?

MGiuseffi · Jul 19, 2012

coolsportscardsinc2012

and tcsportscards12 are his IDs... My guess is he has more since both of these are under 10 feedback. My guess he is an experienced eBayer who has gone over to the dark side.

moxacaine · Jul 19, 2012

ebay is not requiring him to ship anything back? not that you would get it all back anyway.

MGiuseffi · Jul 19, 2012

They have said he is required to ship everything back, but in the meantime the money is frozen, etc... What are the chances he sends all the good hits back? By the way, I did a reverse lookup on the address and the name that pops up is Donald Gordon.

moxacaine said:
ebay is not requiring him to ship anything back? not that you would get it all back anyway.

moxacaine · Jul 19, 2012

It appears Donald Gordon from Woodburn is an older guy. Maybe its a son or grandson using his address? I have some decent resources if you want to pm me his address.

George_Calfas · Jul 19, 2012

This is BS. Have you talked to a human at eBay, there is no way this should be a refund. Obviously the purchase will not be returned in the same condition you sent it to him.....all the FN packs are open. I would count every card, wrapper, etc......and if any one thing is missing I would tell eBay that the return was incomplete......even for a missing wrapper.

moxacaine · Jul 19, 2012

George_Calfas said:
This is BS. Have you talked to a human at eBay, there is no way this should be a refund. Obviously the purchase will not be returned in the same condition you sent it to him.....all the FN packs are open. I would count every card, wrapper, etc......and if any one thing is missing I would tell eBay that the return was incomplete......even for a missing wrapper.

agreed, call ebay and show them the evidence that it was the same person. they will have to side with you.

A_Pharis · Jul 19, 2012

His local PD, call them. This is a form of mail fraud - felony charge.

moxacaine · Jul 19, 2012

A_Pharis said:
His local PD, call them. This is a form of mail fraud - felony charge.

good call, if you tell ebay you involved the police theyll be more likely to respond.

George_Calfas · Jul 19, 2012

moxacaine said:
agreed, call ebay and show them the evidence that it was the same person. they will have to side with you.

True, it is against the TOS to bid on an item from a second account if your first is blocked.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/unwelcome-buying.html

You can't try to buy or bid on an item if you're on a seller's blocked bidder or buyer list.

You can't use another account to buy or bid on an item if you're on a seller's blocked bidder or buyer list.

MGiuseffi · Jul 19, 2012

I did call eBay and they explained the faulty return option.

HPC · Jul 19, 2012

moxacaine said:
good call, if you tell ebay you involved the police theyll be more likely to respond.

Good luck getting the police to actually followup on this, although telling ebay you filed a report might bare some credence for them to reverse their finding

MGiuseffi · Jul 19, 2012

The guy I spoke with also was scratching his head about the decision, but was unable to change it....

George_Calfas · Jul 19, 2012

MGiuseffi said:
I did call eBay and they explained the faulty return option.

The buyer violated the TOS, end of story. Use the links above, call and talk to a Supervisor.....this is a BS move by a XXXXball buyer.

HPC · Jul 19, 2012

MGiuseffi said:
The guy I spoke with also was scratching his head about the decision, but was unable to change it....

not surprising.

Do what George said...just keep asking for each person's supervisor until they get tired of dealing with you and cave.

STHendricks · Jul 19, 2012

I hope you get this resolved. This is terrible! Total joke. Good luck to you

Erich · Jul 19, 2012

Oh hell to the no! there is no way I would just let some shlub at ebay tell me no when he broke the rules. I would take this one to the top.

goldenegg1 · Jul 19, 2012

You have enough evidence to get this reversed. Call eBay and Paypal and keep working up the ladder. I had an incident that was not handled properly and I actually got them to reverse their original decision.

rum151man · Jul 19, 2012

George_Calfas said:
This is BS. Have you talked to a human at eBay, there is no way this should be a refund. Obviously the purchase will not be returned in the same condition you sent it to him.....all the FN packs are open. I would count every card, wrapper, etc......and if any one thing is missing I would tell eBay that the return was incomplete......even for a missing wrapper.

this^ for sure. I'm pretty sure ebay's policy is the item has to be returned in the exact same condition it came in this case every single card needs to be there, wrapper, box, and the case itself. Only thing to worry about is if the guy replaces all the good hits with crappy ones he has laying around to keep the count correct.

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