Red Sox favorites to sign Shane Victorino

markakis8 · Dec 4, 2012

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/momentum-building-toward-deal-for-victorino.html

3 years, 37.5 million.

I don't get it. If they are going to go out and spend money on these FA, why didn't they just keep AGone and Crawford?

Bosox3 · Dec 4, 2012

Short term deals though. they are willing to spend on certain players but no long term contracts.

PadresFan86 · Dec 4, 2012

Way overpaid bum

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mredsox89 · Dec 4, 2012

Victorino/Napoli is 70M over 3 years. Gonzalez, Crawford, Beckett was $250M over 7 years

alexs64 · Dec 4, 2012

I read they signed him 3/39?

sebpoo · Dec 4, 2012

I think $25M/year over 3 years invested in Victorino and Napoli is a wise choice over Gonzalez and Crawford, for $15M more per year and 2 times longer.
and they have another $15M/year over 2 years of Josh Beckett's salary in their pocket.

notjomommasclint · Dec 4, 2012

Ouch that tells me they are shopping jacoby.

I do not like shane victorino! At least I liked Napoli and Gomes..

This team has no real direction and they appear to be signing players just so the fans don't tear down Fenway and turn it into a parking lot for the marathon!

jay1065 · Dec 4, 2012

notjomommasclint said:
Ouch that tells me they are shopping jacoby.

Gomes in left, Ellsbury in center, and Victorino in right? I think they'll be shopping Ross, among others.

ballerskrip · Dec 4, 2012

jay1065 said:
Gomes in left, Ellsbury in center, and Victorino in right? I think they'll be shopping Ross, among others.

I read a few places that rival gms feel the red sox are preparing to trade Jacoby. That would certainly be interesting.

notjomommasclint · Dec 4, 2012

They haven't resigned Cody Ross yet.

They still need a major league SS! I want to see jacoby roaming center for another decade plus. If that cant happen they better get a young SS who is active mlb or ready in return.

If they trade ellsbury on the cheap to resign Cody Ross or to sign nick swisher I will literally XXXX my pants! If swisher ends up in Boston period I will have a hard time wishing success on him!

I will be amazed if they pull out of the cellar in the east in the next 4 years. Everyone around them is getting better and Boston? Well they are getting averager!

Bosox3 · Dec 4, 2012

notjomommasclint said:
They haven't resigned Cody Ross yet.

Everyone around them is getting better and Boston? Well they are getting averager!

who....the blue jays..that's really it. Baltimore and NY havent done anything yet. umm last I looked, signing those players make them better then they were at the end of last yr..so they are getting better.
Swisher is a great player and if he lands in Boston..then I wish him all the best. I have a feeling that he would do great in Boston...but in the end dont see it happening.

markakis8 · Dec 4, 2012

mredsox89 said:
Victorino/Napoli is 70M over 3 years. Gonzalez, Crawford, Beckett was $250M over 7 years

I wasn't confused with Beckett leaving, that made sense. But Agone and Crawford are 2x the players/hitters that Victorino and Napoli are. If you are going to shell out $13 million for mediocre hitters, why not $20 million for elite hitters?

You either commit or rebuild. Otherwise you are just teetering in the middle for 10-15 years.

markakis8 · Dec 4, 2012

notjomommasclint said:
This team has no real direction and they appear to be signing players just so the fans don't tear down Fenway and turn it into a parking lot for the marathon!

This is exactly how I see it.

bigpapiMA32 · Dec 4, 2012

notjomommasclint said:
Ouch that tells me they are shopping jacoby.

I do not like shane victorino! At least I liked Napoli and Gomes..

This team has no real direction and they appear to be signing players just so the fans don't tear down Fenway and turn it into a parking lot for the marathon!

Yup, that's exactly what it is. I see them winning 80-85 games the next couple years and not much more than that.

notjomommasclint · Dec 5, 2012

Bosox3 said:
who....the blue jays..that's really it. Baltimore and NY havent done anything yet. umm last I looked, signing those players make them better then they were at the end of last yr..so they are getting better.
Swisher is a great player and if he lands in Boston..then I wish him all the best. I have a feeling that he would do great in Boston...but in the end dont see it happening.

I didn't mean just better this season. I mean the big picture the other al east teams do what it takes to win. Boston? They go all miami marlins and cut payroll then fill the holes with stop gaps. Id rather have beckett, loney, crawford, and gonzalez and ride them till they are smooth than what im seeing now. If being better than the end of last year is our goal.. Well I'm sorry we are Red Sox fans.

We certainly disagree on nick swisher.

Bosox3 · Dec 5, 2012

notjomommasclint said:
Id rather have beckett, loney, crawford, and gonzalez and ride them till they are smooth than what im seeing now.

Gonzalez was the only thing decent out of those players. Loney / Crawford?? Seriously?
I like the team they are trying to put together...they just need to get Brian Wilson and another starter 1st.

markakis8 · Dec 5, 2012

I never thought I'd see the day where possibly the Red Sox and Yankees could finish 4th and 5th in the AL East. Blue Jays and Rays are looking like mighty fine contenders right now.

markakis8 · Dec 5, 2012

Bosox3 said:
Gonzalez was the only thing decent out of those players. Loney / Crawford?? Seriously?
I like the team they are trying to put together...they just need to get Brian Wilson and another starter 1st.

I'd rather have a mediocre Carl Crawford than an above average Victorino. And I'm a Victorino fan. Crawford could easily return to his Rays form...hit .300, OPS of .850, steal 40-50 bases, score 100 runs.

DeliciousBacon · Dec 5, 2012

markakis8 said:
I'd rather have a mediocre Carl Crawford than an above average Victorino. And I'm a Victorino fan. Crawford could easily return to his Rays form...hit .300, OPS of .850, steal 40-50 bases, score 100 runs.

Sox already had a year of mediocre Crawford, and every Red Sox fan hated it. I think the odds of Victorino returning to form are better than Crawford at this point; by the time Crawford is ready to play in LA, he'll have missed nearly a year and a half after TJ surgery and other injuries. Leaving TB is looking like the worst thing Crawford could have done for his career.

notjomommasclint · Dec 5, 2012

we hated crawford because they paid him the moon and he didnt produce. quick fix was produce.. but at least we knew where his peak was. at 50% of his high we still had a hell of a 1 or 9 hole hitter. victorino.. his attributes at 100% are less than a 50% crawford. here is what im thinking opening day is going to look like.. i dont see a strong team or a team that will compete. id love to be wrong and eat my words.. buuuuuuuut

sp lester
c lavarnway/ross/saltalamacchia
1b napoli
2b pedroia
ss iglesias
3b middlebrooks
lf gomes
cf ellsbury
rf victorino
dh ortiz

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