Need opinions on a Mantle auto

WNP22 · Oct 31, 2009

I've had this auto'd 8x10 for about 12 or so years now. My mom got it for me one Christmas when I was younger. I've always wondered about it's authenticity, since I remember the shop she bought it from was kinda sketchy, and have lately been thinking about sending it in to PSA to get their opinion on it. But before I spend the money to do that, I figured I'd get the opinions of everybody here first. Here is a close up shot of the auto.

Real? Fake? What do you think?

ChasHawk · Oct 31, 2009

Looks pretty consistent to me, bud.

G $MONEY$ · Oct 31, 2009

the fakes look exactly like the real thing, id get jsa to look at it in person. The time frame when you got it would be from the same time when Greg Marino was flooding the market with all his fake Mantles.

BunchOBull · Oct 31, 2009

IMO, it is no good. <cue comments about how I'm negative and how "all autos" must be fake>

I say IMO, but let me go further to say, in my strong opinion. A lot of over-exagerations in the signature.

csmtampa · Oct 31, 2009

That is an authentic Mantle signature.

Looks nothing like the ones Marino was pumping out.

zach · Oct 31, 2009

G $MONEY$ said:
the fakes look exactly like the real thing, id get jsa to look at it in person. The time frame when you got it would be from the same time when Greg Marino was flooding the market with all his fake Mantles.

This is the best answer here.

The fakes were so good that it had many (who thought they knew which were real and which were fake) fooled. If you do some research you'll read about this and how Mantle autos are/were the most forged.

colts1888 · Oct 31, 2009

i dont know if its authtic of not but i have never sen mickey and mantle not on the same line

ie Mickey Mantle is how most are

never have i seen

mickey
mantle

BunchOBull · Oct 31, 2009

csmtampa said:
That is an authentic Mantle signature.

Looks nothing like the ones Marino was pumping out.

I think this is the first time you and I have ever disagreed.

gregbara · Oct 31, 2009

2 parts of the signature to me make it questionable.

On both M's the loop on the bottom. Normally there is no open space in the bottom of the M.

On the M in Mantle, there is a curve over like where the signer started to make the M. Mantles don't have this curve over.

csmtampa · Oct 31, 2009

I stand by opinion 100%. If you get it authenticated and it comes back questionable, than feel free to unleash on me

Post it on the bay and send for a quick opinion, cheapest and fastest way to do it.

Most fake Mantles are easily identifiable by scan or pic.

Here is a Greg Marino forgery of Mantle

BunchOBull · Oct 31, 2009

Mark, I don't think it's a Marino signature...though the example you show doesn't showcase how good he really got. At the same time, I don't think it's a Mantle signature either.

BunchOBull · Oct 31, 2009

gregbara said:
2 parts of the signature to me make it questionable.

On both M's the loop on the bottom. Normally there is no open space in the bottom of the M.

On the M in Mantle, there is a curve over like where the signer started to make the M. Mantles don't have this curve over.

These are what I mean by over-exagerations...too many bleeds and extra "curls" in the signature. The "l" in Mantle has issues too...whomever wrote it took time to adjust the angle of the flow.

csmtampa · Oct 31, 2009

Heres on authenticated by PSA/DNA. A person may change points of their signatures throughout the years, but certain characteristics will remain.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1958-TOPPS-MICK...ZViewItemQQptZUS_Baseball?hash=item1c0d6de4f1

csmtampa · Oct 31, 2009

I think we need a better image, maybe a scan?

gregbara · Oct 31, 2009

BunchOBull said:
gregbara said:

2 parts of the signature to me make it questionable.

On both M's the loop on the bottom. Normally there is no open space in the bottom of the M.

On the M in Mantle, there is a curve over like where the signer started to make the M. Mantles don't have this curve over.

Click to expand...

These are what I mean by over-exagerations...too many bleeds and extra "curls" in the signature. The "l" in Mantle has issues too...whomever wrote it took time to adjust the angle of the flow.

I agree on the L as well. Also on the crossing of the T, where it hits the L we are talking about. I don't think I've ever seen the cross of the T hit the L.

One from my collection:

phxsunsfan · Oct 31, 2009

colts1888 said:
i dont know if its authtic of not but i have never sen mickey and mantle not on the same line

ie Mickey Mantle is how most are

never have i seen

mickey
mantle

Well he did it at least 500 times (see sig)

WNP22 · Oct 31, 2009

csmtampa said:
I stand by opinion 100%. If you get it authenticated and it comes back questionable, than feel free to unleash on me

Post it on the bay and send for a quick opinion, cheapest and fastest way to do it.

Most fake Mantles are easily identifiable by scan or pic.

Here is a Greg Marino forgery of Mantle

How do I go about doing the quick opinion? And what is it exactly?

1995BBRefractorGuy · Oct 31, 2009

the fakes look like the real thing because most were auto penned (based on a real signature)....

G $MONEY$ · Oct 31, 2009

WNP22 said:
csmtampa said:

I stand by opinion 100%. If you get it authenticated and it comes back questionable, than feel free to unleash on me

Post it on the bay and send for a quick opinion, cheapest and fastest way to do it.

Most fake Mantles are easily identifiable by scan or pic.

Here is a Greg Marino forgery of Mantle

Click to expand...

How do I go about doing the quick opinion? And what is it exactly?

all your questions will be answered here...

http://www.psadna.com/QuickOpinion/

WNP22 · Nov 2, 2009

I sent it in for the quick opinion. Thanks you G $MONEY$. I'll let yall know what they say.

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