Mail: 9 Auto Card BGS/JSA Slabs - Ginters and HOF'ers-

Big Mac McGwire · Nov 10, 2011

Today I got my 9 card submission back from BGS/JSA.

I know it's in the eye of the beholder but there is something about slabbed cards that just makes the display that much more attractive.

I used my landlords scanner since many fellow collectors comment on my hairy hands and my thumbs that keep getting in the picture.

9 total submissions. All were signed IP or through paid signings.

The 93 SP Jeter was deemed "Altered" which is very strange because I obtained the card back in 95 or 96 from a LCS And this way before graded cards became as big as they are now.

Also Can someone tell me why the Mays Auto got an 8 ??? There is no streaking or bleeding or fading.

Mays Closeup - why did the auto get an 8??

Zymco · Nov 10, 2011

Awesome stuff. Really like the Jeter.

AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR · Nov 10, 2011

If the signature goes off the edge of the card they ding the grade.

10 - A beautiful, boldly signed autograph that appears nearly perfect to the naked eye. Under normal viewing, it looks like an aesthetically- pleasing autograph.

9 - This is a signature that is also very pleasing, but has slight imperfections that barely detract from the autograph. Very light bubbling or micro scratching is allowable, but no yellowing, fading, or smearing. Positioning should be nearly perfect - with just the very tips of a letter or two cut off or hidden.

8 - At this level, some flaws begin to stand out slightly. Signature is still solid and pleasing, but might be somewhat bubbled throughout, or have areas of minor scuffing/scratching that detracts from the aesthetic beauty of the signature. Only lightly visible yellowing or fading or smearing is allowed. A cut signature may only have 10% of the signature hidden (or missing, when referring to a sticker autograph). Only a very small tip of the signature may run off or bleed onto the edge.

7 - Flaws are evident, including heavy bubbling throughout, noticeable scratching, minor but noticeable yellowing or fading, small but obvious portions of smeared ink. Up to 20% of a cut autograph may be hidden, or 20% of a sticker auto may be missing. A portion of the signature may run off the card or may bleed onto the edge.

Big Mac McGwire · Nov 10, 2011

AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR said:
If the signature goes off the edge of the card they ding the grade.

10 - A beautiful, boldly signed autograph that appears nearly perfect to the naked eye. Under normal viewing, it looks like an aesthetically- pleasing autograph.

9 - This is a signature that is also very pleasing, but has slight imperfections that barely detract from the autograph. Very light bubbling or micro scratching is allowable, but no yellowing, fading, or smearing. Positioning should be nearly perfect - with just the very tips of a letter or two cut off or hidden.

8 - At this level, some flaws begin to stand out slightly. Signature is still solid and pleasing, but might be somewhat bubbled throughout, or have areas of minor scuffing/scratching that detracts from the aesthetic beauty of the signature. Only lightly visible yellowing or fading or smearing is allowed. A cut signature may only have 10% of the signature hidden (or missing, when referring to a sticker autograph). Only a very small tip of the signature may run off or bleed onto the edge.

7 - Flaws are evident, including heavy bubbling throughout, noticeable scratching, minor but noticeable yellowing or fading, small but obvious portions of smeared ink. Up to 20% of a cut autograph may be hidden, or 20% of a sticker auto may be missing. A portion of the signature may run off the card or may bleed onto the edge.

Ahhh gotcha. Thanks bud. Definately makes sense.

shepsspot · Nov 10, 2011

Yeah, is part of the "W" off the card?

Amazing that the Jeter is altered, but the Arods look completely different.

Zambrano38 · Nov 10, 2011

The blue autos with the blue slabs really POP. Great cards.

Mets/Jets · Nov 10, 2011

Wow. Nice autos. I like that Ichiro. Maybe the Jeter got an (altered) grade because it was cut or was touched up with a marker? Love that Mays card too!

Big Mac McGwire · Nov 10, 2011

shepsspot said:
Yeah, is part of the "W" off the card?

Amazing that the Jeter is altered, but the Arods look completely different.

The Arod with the short sig has a similar graph that I seen on Topps
Sticker autos. They were signed on consecutive days in Tampa
This past season when Arod was rehabbing.
Obtained by one of my good friends who lives there.

Crewfan82 · Nov 10, 2011

Sweet autos.

Question for you. What do they require along with the card to authenticate it? Pictures? Receipt from paid signing? .... I have some stuff I would like to send in, but I don't know if I have enough "proof" to authenicate the sig.

jdk16 · Nov 10, 2011

Crewfan82 said:
Sweet autos.

Question for you. What do they require along with the card to authenticate it? Pictures? Receipt from paid signing? .... I have some stuff I would like to send in, but I don't know if I have enough "proof" to authenicate the sig.

you dont need proof thats what they do for you authenticate it. they compare with known signatures and determine if yours is authentic

Crewfan82 · Nov 10, 2011

jdk16 said:
Crewfan82 said:

Sweet autos.

Question for you. What do they require along with the card to authenticate it? Pictures? Receipt from paid signing? .... I have some stuff I would like to send in, but I don't know if I have enough "proof" to authenicate the sig.

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you dont need proof thats what they do for you authenticate it. they compare with known signatures and determine if yours is authentic

What is the cost per card/item?

jdk16 · Nov 10, 2011

Crewfan82 said:
jdk16 said:

Crewfan82 said:

Sweet autos.

Question for you. What do they require along with the card to authenticate it? Pictures? Receipt from paid signing? .... I have some stuff I would like to send in, but I don't know if I have enough "proof" to authenicate the sig.

Click to expand...

you dont need proof thats what they do for you authenticate it. they compare with known signatures and determine if yours is authentic

Click to expand...

What is the cost per card/item?

not sure im sure its on there site

MOFNY · Nov 10, 2011

Autograph grades can be incredibly stupid.

Big Mac McGwire · Nov 10, 2011

Crewfan82 said:
jdk16 said:

Crewfan82 said:

Sweet autos.

Question for you. What do they require along with the card to authenticate it? Pictures? Receipt from paid signing? .... I have some stuff I would like to send in, but I don't know if I have enough "proof" to authenicate the sig.

Click to expand...

you dont need proof thats what they do for you authenticate it. they compare with known signatures and determine if yours is authentic

Click to expand...

What is the cost per card/item?

It was 30 each. PSA/DNA is 27.

I know it's high, but even though i know there legit, having them in the slab soothes my OCD.
And in the slim event i ever did want to sell, it would definately help me get top dollar.

subpop77 · Nov 11, 2011

:shock: NICE STUFF! So did you go to signings to get them? Congrats I have thought about grading some of my signed cards.

ThoseBackPages · Nov 11, 2011

Big Mac McGwire said:
having them in the slab soothes my OCD.

and if you bought a scanner and scanned properly, that would sooth MY ocd

Lars · Nov 11, 2011

I have a question - to authenticate and slab an autograph card through JSA/BGS would be $20 plus shipping / insurance, but to have the autograph graded, would I have to add an additional $30 to the $20 authentic / slab fee or is it just a flat $30?

If I wanted to authenticate / slab / have the autograph and card graded, would I have to add $60 to the original $20 fee?

Thanks

Big Mac McGwire · Nov 11, 2011

Lars said:
I have a question - to authenticate and slab an autograph card through JSA/BGS would be $20 plus shipping / insurance, but to have the autograph graded, would I have to add an additional $30 to the $20 authentic / slab fee or is it just a flat $30?

If I wanted to authenticate / slab / have the autograph and card graded, would I have to add $60 to the original $20 fee?

Thanks

To ONLY have the card encapsulated meaning to just have it be an authentic auto is 20$ +shipping+return insurance

To have it encapsulated + auto grade Is 30$+shipping+return insurance

To have it encapsulated + auto grade & card grade is ALSO 30+ shipping + return insurance
It is the same as just getting the auto graded. I wrote it out So there is no confusion.
It is an extra 10$ if the declared value of the card is 500$ or more.

The shipping options are slowest to fastest.
BUT I was told by customer service that with the process of auto card slabbing that the turnaround time is not guaranteed by BGS.

This is for 1-20 cards which I always fall under And never more then 10 cause it's expensive
You can opt for :
ground 13$
Express saver 17$
2 day 22$
Priority overnight 42$

Here was my order
9 cards - encap & auto grade - 270. (9x30$)
Insurance 14$
Shipping - 42$ - I could have used the ground for 13$ so my bill could have been 28$ lower
Total - 326$
So it could have been 298$ If I went with slower Shipping

I also had a 30$ voucher that I used so
My bill was 296$ instead of 326$

I used the fast shipping cause I thought it
Would speed my order up.

It didn't pay to do it because the process is long regardless.
You must submit the cards to JSA first
Then after JSA authenticates them they send them to BGS in Texas.

I submitted My cards to JSA while they were at a local card store
On October 9th. BGS got done slabbing them on November 9th And I got them today on the 10th because of the 42$ overnight fee. I also paid the 42$ and i usually use the 22$ service so i know my package is being shipped with extra priority. I feel this helps with safety as i know it may sound dumb but i feel IMO paying the extra money for fast shipping reduces the chances of your package getting lost. Considering you do have insurance but I don't want the money, I want MY cards . The BS time of getting the hardest top tier guys to sign your cards require time And money And worrying that your card comes out the way you want it. So I will pay the extra money to make sure my box is handled with top notch importance assuring me that it gets back to me with no BS along the way. I read about too many lost packages on here because of people not paying the money for top notch shipping.But I was told there is no guaranteed turn around time regarding the slabbing time , NOT the shipping time. It will take 2 days if you pay 22$ for the 2 day service but that means 2 days to get back to you from the day they get done being slabbed. There is no guaranteed timetable of how long it takes to get the cards slabbed And I confused this with the shipping times.
Dont go by shipping fees and relate that to how fast it takes to receive your cards back.
I have used The JSA/BGS system 2x now And overall it takes about a month from when you submit to when you get back. It takes long like I said because it has to go through JSA in NJ then flown to Texas And then back to you rather then the normal BGS process that it just taking place in Texas. Sorry for the long read but I figured this would clarify any questions.
Yes it's not for everyone and it's pricey but it's hard to deny how nice cards signed in blue look
Slabbed with the blue authentication tag.

Lars · Nov 11, 2011

Thanks for the long response - love seeing your stuff.

Big Mac McGwire said:
Lars said:

I have a question - to authenticate and slab an autograph card through JSA/BGS would be $20 plus shipping / insurance, but to have the autograph graded, would I have to add an additional $30 to the $20 authentic / slab fee or is it just a flat $30?

If I wanted to authenticate / slab / have the autograph and card graded, would I have to add $60 to the original $20 fee?

Thanks

Click to expand...

To ONLY have the card encapsulated meaning to just have it be an authentic auto is 20$ +shipping+return insurance

To have it encapsulated + auto grade Is 30$+shipping+return insurance

To have it encapsulated + auto grade & card grade is ALSO 30+ shipping + return insurance
It is the same as just getting the auto graded. I wrote it out So there is no confusion.
It is an extra 10$ if the declared value of the card is 500$ or more.

The shipping options are slowest to fastest.
BUT I was told by customer service that with the process of auto card slabbing that the turnaround time is not guaranteed by BGS.

This is for 1-20 cards which I always fall under And never more then 10 cause it's expensive
You can opt for :
ground 13$
Express saver 17$
2 day 22$
Priority overnight 42$

Here was my order
9 cards - encap & auto grade - 270. (9x30$)
Insurance 14$
Shipping - 42$ - I could have used the ground for 13$ so my bill could have been 28$ lower
Total - 326$
So it could have been 298$ If I went with slower Shipping

I also had a 30$ voucher that I used so
My bill was 296$ instead of 326$

I used the fast shipping cause I thought it
Would speed my order up.

It didn't pay to do it because the process is long regardless.
You must submit the cards to JSA first
Then after JSA authenticates them they send them to BGS in Texas.

I submitted My cards to JSA while they were at a local card store
On October 9th. BGS got done slabbing them on November 9th And I got them today on the 10th because of the 42$ overnight fee. I also paid the 42$ and i usually use the 22$ service so i know my package is being shipped with extra priority. I feel this helps with safety as i know it may sound dumb but i feel IMO paying the extra money for fast shipping reduces the chances of your package getting lost. Considering you do have insurance but I don't want the money, I want MY cards . The BS time of getting the hardest top tier guys to sign your cards require time And money And worrying that your card comes out the way you want it. So I will pay the extra money to make sure my box is handled with top notch importance assuring me that it gets back to me with no BS along the way. I read about too many lost packages on here because of people not paying the money for top notch shipping.But I was told there is no guaranteed turn around time regarding the slabbing time , NOT the shipping time. It will take 2 days if you pay 22$ for the 2 day service but that means 2 days to get back to you from the day they get done being slabbed. There is no guaranteed timetable of how long it takes to get the cards slabbed And I confused this with the shipping times.
Dont go by shipping fees and relate that to how fast it takes to receive your cards back.
I have used The JSA/BGS system 2x now And overall it takes about a month from when you submit to when you get back. It takes long like I said because it has to go through JSA in NJ then flown to Texas And then back to you rather then the normal BGS process that it just taking place in Texas. Sorry for the long read but I figured this would clarify any questions.
Yes it's not for everyone and it's pricey but it's hard to deny how nice cards signed in blue look
Slabbed with the blue authentication tag.

olerud363 · Nov 11, 2011

Mets/Jets said:
Wow. Nice autos. I like that Ichiro. Maybe the Jeter got an (altered) grade because it was cut or was touched up with a marker? Love that Mays card too!

I'm still missing something. How can an autograph be deemed "Authentic Altered" and still get a grade of 10? To use another grading analogy, wouldn't that be like trimming a card and having it come back with gem edges?

Awesome sub BTW!

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