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Bob Loblaw

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And I told you that I I dropped that email account, so your emails never made it to me. You had facebook, texting, my office email, and private messaging on BO and FCB to get in touch with me but you didn't. If you want to sell me the superfractor card, send me a paypal invoice and I'll happily pay it.

I never said you received a card at all from BRian. I just said I expected you to deny it.

And in turn, I expected you to deny being a deadbeat not once, but twice, for cards you agreed to buy from me, then conveniently stopped responding to emails. Which you did, by the way.

Needless to say, I have never received a single card gratis from Razor/Leaf (I haven't even bought a product from BG in forever), and I would very much enjoy seeing you prove otherwise.

Go crawl back in your hole, Joseph McCarthy.
 

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I dont think a debate is needed. Was the person who stole these cards and sold them to bigboyd apprehended by the police yet? Has a report been made? This is one way you can just get the cards back in leafs hands.
 

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Well, this thread has really became entertaining!

And thats the point Brian, no matter what is said most people are just going to grab popcorn and enjoy. And when all is said and done, you can not hide or debate peoples opinion. All you can do is try and change it through your product and customer service.

On a side note, I highly doubt BG has ever paid off anyone. Back when I was a mod here, I can tell you that although his involvment to the site was welcome, he (as a person) was treated no more special than anyone and never didI hear or see anything that lends credibility to the notion of Brian paying off supporters, not behind the scenes nor in any manor. For Jeff to even state that as a possibility he feels is true only adds a drop to the bucket of underhanded venom he likes to infer, and hope it sticks as truth.
 

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Well, this thread has really became entertaining!

And thats the point Brian, no matter what is said most people are just going to grab popcorn and enjoy. And when all is said and done, you can not hide or debate peoples opinion. All you can do is try and change it through your product and customer service.

On a side note, I highly doubt BG has ever paid off anyone. Back when I was a mod here, I can tell you that although his involvment to the site was welcome, he (as a person) was treated no more special than anyone and never didI hear or see anything that lends credibility to the notion of Brian paying off supporters, not behind the scenes nor in any manor. For Jeff to even state that as a possibility he feels is true only adds a drop to the bucket of underhanded venom he likes to infer, and hope it sticks as truth.

There was a Razor Supporters Only private forum on FCB.
 

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And I told you that I I dropped that email account, so your emails never made it to me. You had facebook, texting, my office email, and private messaging on BO and FCB to get in touch with me but you didn't. If you want to sell me the superfractor card, send me a paypal invoice and I'll happily pay it.

I never said you received a card at all from BRian. I just said I expected you to deny it.

Wrong again, skippy. I sent you several PM's as well, which too got ignored. And let's not forget the first time you didn't pay a while back, which was sent to your home email, way before you shut it down. No response, over the course of weeks.

As for your second statement, making back-handed accusations are still accusations.

Not going to entertain this matter further. Go talk to yourself, since we know you're incapable of shutting up.
 
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There was a Razor Supporters Only private forum on FCB.

Is this a joke?

I can assure you 100% I never saw it, and had access to all the material behind the scene (unless admin only). Unless of course it was gone before my time, or created afterwards... Mind you, I would have no problem telling you if this were true.
 
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Is this a joke?



I can assure you 100% I never saw it, and had access to all the material behind the scene (unless admin only). Unless of course it was gone before my time, or created afterwards... Mind you, I would have no problem telling you if this were true.

It was during the Signature Series debacle... I never had access to it, but that is what we were all told.
 

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It was during the Signature Series debacle... I never had access to it, but that is what we were all told.

I think something may be getting lost in translation here...

There may have been a RAZOR forum for moderators/admin simply to discuss the implication(s) of having a manufacturer here on board, but even then I can not be sure as it would have had little importance on a daily and practical manor. But to say that there was a RAZOR supporters forum private only forum is something I had never seen. In all fairness this does not mean that it could not have existed, but I highly doubt it. Either way, your putting something out as fact that as of yet has no proof of existance, again...
 

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Oh, what the fudge.


I would love to maturely debate Jeff (Bob Loblaw) Novell with the event recorded by FCB and moderated by gilmo, phillyfan, and Wes (or others)..

If Jeff and FCB will agree to participate, I will make a very nice card donation to the Scottish Rite Hospital,..

Topics:
Pete Rose product


** Ya said you'd never issue another one. HEre's another one. End of story.

Purple Prismatics

** Backdoored. End of story.

Razor's success or failure

** If it was a success, it wouldn't have been gutted.

Leaf's success and financial stability

** Don't care.

Jeff's achievements professionally

** Don't care.

Is Jeff a troll or not?


** Don't care.

Should I interact on these boards?

** Don't care.


Leaf's position in market

** Bending consumers over over, not using lube.

!

Jeff, you in? FCB mods, you in?
Is this something you guys would like to hear?

This could be fun.. For charity, why not???

BG


There ya go. Nothing more needs be said. Give the cards to the sick kids.
 

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Well,

This explains the Brian Gray lovefest I had in my email today -- a friend request on facebook and a PM requesting "why can't we be friends"? I guess that if someone is bringing up all of the skeletons you hoped were buried, the best thing to do would be to shut them up with friendship.

I would have thought I would have been offered more backdoored product, actually... As the Million DOllar Man, Ted DiBiase, said, everyone has their price. I am sure certain message board members received their payola in the past.

While tempting to make you look more foolish than your explanations have already done, I'm done. I know that I'll never get a word of truth out of your mouth, Brian, and you'll simply "deny, deny, deny". What's the point of arguing any further? I've made my point; I've sold off a large portion of the Leaf inventory I own (or in one player's situation, I actually gave him his old Razor Metal Gold/Blue refractor autos), and I'll get rid of the rest of it soon. I CERTAINLY won't purchase anything from your company again.

There's no doubt that saying what I truly feel would either end with me being banned or sued, and perhaps that's the road you're attempting to take. While I appreciate your attempt to...what, debate me? Come into my arena? I have nothing more to say, nothing to prove. In the immortal words of Vincent LaGuardia Gambini... "I'm done wit this guy."

I'm surprised Brian hasn't offered to bet me $200k on something. It is quite telling that the only offer of a donation is if he gets a fight with me. GIve the money out of the kindness of your heart, rather than because I will or won't fight you.

I have to tell you. Jeff, you are soft as XXXX. You run your mouth, and you run your mouth, and then you can't even man up and back it up. Not that this is suprising, but part of me hoped you might show some XXXXing balls and take him on in a discussion.

You have become the true meaning of an internet tough guy, who when challenged in real life is as soft as baby poo. Grow up, be a man, back up your works, or XXXX THE F*CK up.

Done
 

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I have never until this point realized how pathetic we are as a collective. I am embarrassed to be a part of this hobby and mostly thinking we all need to step back, reevaluate our lives, and reengage.

This thread is exactly why a debate wouldn't work. As great of a spectacle as it would be.. This thread? It's been reduced to hatred, anger, and a reference to a commiphobic..

I take great pride in my ability to be the largest ****** bag in a room.. But this thread here tonight has humbled me!
 

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A "Hit" from 2012 Leaf Best of Baseball

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I think something may be getting lost in translation here...


There may have been a RAZOR forum for moderators/admin simply to discuss the implication(s) of having a manufacturer here on board, but even then I can not be sure as it would have had little importance on a daily and practical manor. But to say that there was a RAZOR supporters forum private only forum is something I had never seen. In all fairness this does not mean that it could not have existed, but I highly doubt it. Either way, your putting something out as fact that as of yet has no proof of existance, again...

It's a fact that there was a Razor forum. Those who were in the inside know what it was used for. I did not personally have access, nor did I want access. I did not know what it was used for.

Furthermore, they were a paid advertiser, so they had their banner and a hyperlink and any other privileges that were unknown.

I am well aware of the fact that one could bad mouth Topps, UD, or Donruss back in 2008 with impunity, but Razor criticism was frowned upon.
 

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I have to tell you. Jeff, you are soft as XXXX. You run your mouth, and you run your mouth, and then you can't even man up and back it up. Not that this is suprising, but part of me hoped you might show some XXXXing balls and take him on in a discussion.




You have become the true meaning of an internet tough guy, who when challenged in real life is as soft as baby poo. Grow up, be a man, back up your works, or XXXX THE F*CK up.

Done


Congratulations Brian. You called me out after I was done with you and because I don't want to play your silly little games, I'm called a chicken.

Whatever. I would prefer to avoid the fleas that would come after laying down with you.
 
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