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If you can change one thing in this hobby
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swish54_99
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- Dec 12, 2012
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I hope this doesn't happen. I get autographs at low-A ballparks and having all of these minor league products is perfect for us who do this. I do however agree with the latter part of your statement (and what a few others have said) about the greed and people only caring about that mighty dollar. That's the thing I would change, have it be more of a hobby than a way to make money.
my newest change for the hobby is for topps to cut back production of flagship series 1 and 2. It's a fun rip for a set builder like me but it's a PITA to get rid of duplicate base and unwanted inserts because there are over 100 listed for sale of each one so it's hard to get rid of them with so many of each card available for sale.
Cut production (and even number the inserts) and it should be a little easier to get rid of cards.
Cut production (and even number the inserts) and it should be a little easier to get rid of cards.
Ive said this for years. When they make the base set desirable, everything else will fall into place.
Base Topps should feel like Heritage. They should be cards, not photos.
Bootstraps9
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If you are just a collector why would it matter to you at all if the whole set was eliminated? You could just spend that money on cards of players who have already made the show! It wouldn't get rid of 'rookie cards' it would just delay them. There is just something that rubs me the wrong way about A-ball player rookie autos being more expensive than multiple time All-stars who play in the MLB. In the end I am pretty unaffected cause I don't buy the prospect cards when they are hot. Just find the whole thing ridiculous. And this is my opinion, thought that was what this thread was for.
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BBCgalaxee
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Just to expand on how I wish base cards were more in demand.
Not too long ago, there were plenty of $5-$15 base prospects in every bc product along with auto.
Ok so you got a XXXXty auto, but got in demand and valuable base prospects.
And if the prospect cards had value, so did the Refractors, especially color.
Case in point, in 05 I got a mccutchen gold Refractor which I sold "cheaply" for $200. Non auto keep in mind.
Can you even get $50 for a Frazier or meadows gold non auto?
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Not too long ago, there were plenty of $5-$15 base prospects in every bc product along with auto.
Ok so you got a XXXXty auto, but got in demand and valuable base prospects.
And if the prospect cards had value, so did the Refractors, especially color.
Case in point, in 05 I got a mccutchen gold Refractor which I sold "cheaply" for $200. Non auto keep in mind.
Can you even get $50 for a Frazier or meadows gold non auto?
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Super Mario
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Lower prices. More autographs.
Ghumbs
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+1
I open base Topps and Heritage. The thing I don't care for with Topps is the card stock. The thing I don't care for in Heritage is the throwback design. Wish all cards had the Heritage feel.
clarkzac
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For one thing, Cutch didn't have autos in 05 other than the topps update so his color is going to carry a premium out of the gate and here's an example of a meadows gold non auto from the same set that has an auto-
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JoshHamilton
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I collect Marlins prospects, especially blue refractors. Eliminating Bowman products means I'd never get a chance to collect Isaac Galloway, Chip Ambres, or one of my all time favorite players, Jason Stokes. They never made it to the majors.
I also build master sets, hence why I bought 30 boxes and didn't sell anything. I have partial-near complete sets from 1997-present, including Pujols and most other star autos.
tribefan26
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Count me as immature - they are producing stuff that largely doesn't interest me. It obviously interests others, but it is different than what I've collected for 40 years. I have no interest in a card of my player in 14 different colors. I"m guessing that most people here don't long for topps Total to come back - it certainly doesn't make them immature - it means they collect differently than I do.
At my age it's a compliment to be called immature - more often the word is curmudgeon.
Casebusters
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The one thing would be More products with more parallels and variations from more manufacturers
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Get rid of all the whining and biotching done towards those who choose to collect or enjoy the hobby in a different way.
You don't like it, we all get it. Nothing is going to change.
This will be my last post for a while.
It's to the point where coming to the board isn't even enjoyable for me any more.
The answer to the thread has to be::: bring some people to the hobby who can communicate with others, have fun, joke around and not act like a-holes all time.
Until that happens, nothing will change.
You who love to attack, attack away. I will be far removed from here. Have some fun.
You don't like it, we all get it. Nothing is going to change.
This will be my last post for a while.
It's to the point where coming to the board isn't even enjoyable for me any more.
The answer to the thread has to be::: bring some people to the hobby who can communicate with others, have fun, joke around and not act like a-holes all time.
Until that happens, nothing will change.
You who love to attack, attack away. I will be far removed from here. Have some fun.
Bootstraps9
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Who attacked anyone?
yes, I wish the card stock was a little thicker on those.
My biggest peeve about the flagship base is the waste of cardboard all-star, league leaders, gold gloves, rookie debut stamped cards for players whose debut was more than a year prior to their rookie debut card year, etc.
I would rather have more players depicted (manager cards, middle-tier DH's, setup men, long relief inning eaters or pinch-hitters with light tower power) -- especially since it appears Topps Total will never be coming back. Might as well make the 990 card flagship combined series set each year feature as many different players as possible.
BowmanCollector
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If I could change one thing it would be to do away with grading. It is such a silly scam, why do I need to pay somebody to tell me if a card is nice or not? I can decide for myself. The only use I can see is for people to demand a higher price for the perceived 'value added' of a high grade.
I, personally, would never own a graded card.
I, personally, would never own a graded card.
Casebusters
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I like grading for that purpose only. Too objective. The person selling the card will always say their card is in better shape then the buyer will think.
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IUjapander
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Get rid of airbrushing in bowman products.
If you really and truly stopped to think about it, it is ridiculous. Keep bowman but show the minor league uniforms that you know they actually wear.
If you really and truly stopped to think about it, it is ridiculous. Keep bowman but show the minor league uniforms that you know they actually wear.
RiceLynnEvans75
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Dump "professional" grading.
gt2590
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Obviously, you're entitled to do what you want with YOUR collection.
But you and ever one else who wants to get rid of third party grading are missing two very important points.
First, Grading is also a great way to authenticate cards and expose Fakes or alterations. And second, the rise of grading is so that someone who can't see the card in-person can get an objective idea of its condition. Without grading, internet-based cards sales were virtually disappear.
