2013 Topps Heritage Extensive Preview with pics!

markakis8 said:

The more I think about it, I don't like the minis either. The only way I would be okay with it would be a one per box ratio. That would drive the set collectors nuts and add incredible value to them.

The Lineage minis sell rather well and they were only a few a box. Can you imagine Heritage collectors going after minis if they fell one or two per box?

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mudflap02 said:

If this is info is indeed correct, I am ending my Heritage runs with 2012 and focusing on completing the sets I have started (just as impossible.)

Gold refractors, gold parallels, 1/1 booklets, Andre Dawson (RC in 1977) autographs.... this isn't a Heritage set. It's Heritage, ATFF, Triple Threads and Topps Chrome all wrapped up into one bloated set that is biting off more than it can chew.

The real challenge to me is building a true master set, one of each card released. It's next to impossible with the last 12 sets, but it's doable with time and money. Parallels /5 are not conducive to set builders, they appeal to flippers who will not even think about keeping it for their collection.

Let's say you do manage to build the Gold refractor set, average $100 a card if you're lucky? $10,000 on that one parallel set, and good luck getting anything close to that if you ever decide to get rid of it for any reason. I'm happy to have just paid $20 for a 2004 Cliff Floyd Black Refractor, but there are few who would say the same. There are maybe a handful of people in the world who would ever even think of taking that card off my hands for that price right now.

It's been real and it's been fun and I love the cards I own, but I think it's time to draw the line.

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mudflap02 said:

If this is info is indeed correct, I am ending my Heritage runs with 2012 and focusing on completing the sets I have started (just as impossible.)

Gold refractors, gold parallels, 1/1 booklets, Andre Dawson (RC in 1977) autographs.... this isn't a Heritage set. It's Heritage, ATFF, Triple Threads and Topps Chrome all wrapped up into one bloated set that is biting off more than it can chew.

The real challenge to me is building a true master set, one of each card released. It's next to impossible with the last 12 sets, but it's doable with time and money. Parallels /5 are not conducive to set builders, they appeal to flippers who will not even think about keeping it for their collection.

Let's say you do manage to build the Gold refractor set, average $100 a card if you're lucky? $10,000 on that one parallel set, and good luck getting anything close to that if you ever decide to get rid of it for any reason. I'm happy to have just paid $20 for a 2004 Cliff Floyd Black Refractor, but there are few who would say the same. There are maybe a handful of people in the world who would ever even think of taking that card off my hands for that price right now.

It's been real and it's been fun and I love the cards I own, but I think it's time to draw the line.

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allstars said:

I dunno mudflap. Would it be so bad if you just ignored the gold refractors & went about collecting Heritage as usual? Would it be so bad if, after buying a case worth of boxes, you stumbled across a Gold Ref of pujols #ed 5/5 & flipped it on Ebay for 700 & recouped 50% of your costs? doesn't sound worth giving up a multi-year project for does it?

As for the minis, I agree with most in that if there were no '64 minis that there shouldn't be any in Heritage. By the time '75 Heritage rolls around in what, 2024, folks won't even realize that there really were minis made in 1975.

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mudflap02 said:

If I'm a Heritage collector, why would I flip one of the best cards I could pull out of the product?

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mudflap02 said:

If I'm a Heritage collector, why would I flip one of the best cards I could pull out of the product?

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TNP777 said:

I dunno, Jeff. Like you said, you gotta draw the line somewhere. If you forsake the /5 golds, that still fits your definition of a master set and makes it somewhat attainable. Flipping that theoretical /5 Pujols to fit your end goal is a good play, imo.

Having said that, I also understand the thought process of pushing yourself away from the table and saying, "I'm done with this." I reached that point in '09 and haven't regretted it at all. I'll buy my yearly Dodger set from someone else who decided to lose money on cracking a case or 10 and save tons of money and aggravation. If a black refractor comes along for a steal, I'll nab it. If not, no biggie.

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