ALL_THE_HYPE said:
That is why it is considered rape when a woman is heavily intoxicated. It is against the law to have sex with someone who is unable to consent if they are that heavily intoxicated. You might know some women who have gone through this but it doesn't matter whether it is a sports star or not. It is still rape. See De Anza baseball team rape. That was horrible, and she was so intoxicated that she passed out. It just is in the news more when it is a sports star.[/quote:1s3075e0]
I agree 100% that if the woman is too drunk to consent then it is rape.
What I'm saying is that you can be blacked out and still seem completely coherent (albeit drunk) to the people around you. All it means if you "blacked out" is that you can't remember what happened during that time frame. Obviously this means she had too much to drink, and it certainly could have put her in a state that made her unable to consent; but all I'm saying is that if she was blacked out and still functioning normally otherwise, then I'd venture to guess that there's a good chance there was consent at the time.
I'm not saying I condone rape or taking advantage of someone far drunker than you--both are horrible. I'm also not saying the male/athlete should be given the benefit of the doubt, because that's completely unfair and so is jumping to conclusions without due process. But this is why blackout vs passed out is the important detail in situations like this, because while one makes this a rape situation, the other just makes it a bad drunk mistake.[/quote:1s3075e0]
You are exactly right, but because of how the criminal justice system in the United States works, it is the male individuals "responsibility" (for lack of a better word) to know that the woman has consumed a high amount of alcoholic, thus rendering her unable to fully and consciously consent to any sexual contact.
) on a baseball card site..99% of people have no idea who "Starling/Starlin Castro is. I also know..about 75% of the people who know who he is would not recognize him in a "club". So if she knew who he was..he told her or someone else who knew him played the "you know who that is card". So if this guy is that big of a tool when it comes to getting lucky..then hes an idiot. If she is crying wolf..shame on her. As a female myself..rule #1 you don't put yourself in that situation..Rule #2..if you do make- sure you are with someone you trust/know so things like that cant and wont happen. If he jumped on a passed out woman..then he's a giant POS.
