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1980s/1990's Leaf/Donruss Proofs and Test issues

chief7575

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Feb 1, 2010
184
The only guy I collect, Travis Fryman - had an oddball item come up in searches recently I had not seen before. Noticed the seller had other players as well.


So, the question is - is there any validity to any of these? I'm not one to really collect proofs and such, but still wanted to find out what may be real and what may be a fancy inkjet job. Thanks.

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EtherealSOC

Member
Dec 31, 2012
134
Nova Scotia, Canada
I can't say definitively either way, but the one thing that bothers me about this seller's proofs is the DONRUSS 1992 line at the top. On the one slabbed copy I could find, that line isn't printed. A neat item if legit.
 

joey12508

Well-known member
Aug 7, 2008
19,981
Winterfell
im no expert, i have puchased 3 card panels before and assumed they were printer scraps. the others not sure if they are all proofs.
 

mrmopar

Member
Jan 19, 2010
3,392
I bought a couple of the Donruss "proofs". I don't know for certain, but besides the missing stat line, there were some text differences. They are pretty low tech, but then again, they are not plentiful either.

The seller seems to deal extensively in proofs, from Topps Vault/Archives, etc. I have won a variaty of things from him over the years. I tend to believe that they are either legit or he got them from elsewhere thinking they were legit, but I doubt that he is purposefully offering anything dubious or that he believes/knows to be fake.
 

mrmopar

Member
Jan 19, 2010
3,392
Fryman is the same as the one's I bought. It looks like they were cut from a larger sheet, probably a paper print proof. The career hightlights were changed significantly, noting achievements from the prior season on the finished card that were not there on the proof, probably because the proof was made prior to the season completing? I am not sure anyone would go through the effort to delete text from the final version to make a fake proof. I have no idea what kind of effort would be involved in that, but I could see it paying off for superstars, but not more common players.

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chief7575

Member
Feb 1, 2010
184
Thank you for the responses - especially mrmopar for noting the stat differences. I had not dug out my cards to even look at that! Great info - that's why I ask. :)
 

jszczech

Active member
Dec 27, 2010
2,072
Minnesota
I have a handful of Pucketts. Including a 1992 Donruss and 1990 Donruss MVP. These are all consistent with mine. For context I've owned mine for probably 10 years at this point. The guy I got my 90 proofs from owned them since the early 90s.
 
Oct 16, 2013
558
Thank you for the information!! Keep them coming!! I love this stuff. Card that was never made but I'll have the proof!!

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mrmopar

Member
Jan 19, 2010
3,392
Was Strawberry not in the MVP set at all? If so, that is cool proof. Maybe someone didn't have a photo of Mitchell handy and just tossed in a filler and it happened to be Straw, then someone reviewing the sheet caught it and said..."WTF, that is Straw, not Mitchell!", or that is how it went down in my mind at least.
 
Oct 16, 2013
558
No he wasn't. He is now by face and penned in name. Or maybe they changed there mind to but Mitchell in.

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