1987 Donruss blue proofs?

[DaClyde]

Anyone familiar with these? Are they legit (I'm thinking not) or just someone's monochrome photocopy job?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Donruss-Dark-Blue-Proof-Dave-Henderson-Boston-Red-Sox-/200820200369

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Donrus...Ozzie-Guillen-Chicago-White-Sox-/200812724628

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Donruss-Dark-Blue-Proof-Fred-McGriff-Toronto-Blue-Jays-/200820200373

 

[mjbuchanan80]

Has to be fake. I'm no expert, but collect that era extensively and I have never heard of them or seen them up for sale before. If they were real, they are incredibly rare. $5 doesn't sound like a price for rare to me.

Also...paper proofs? They don't go this route for proofs do they? The point of a proof is to get as close to concept as possible meaning they would want it on card stock.

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[uniquebaseballcards]

Yikes, this is pretty ridiculous.

 

[MartinFFcollector]

These are real. Blue Line Press Proofs. I used to own a 1988 Fleer sheet. Seen many others. Mine was sent to the photographer to proof and he made notes on it about what was wrong. There was a error on it which were corrected before they printed the cards. Position was wrong on 1 card and changed when they printed. Pretty neat piece. Dont have pics anymore. Unsure if all were sent to the photographer or for editors to look over etc. Based on the 1 link I opened, someone cut a sheet up. Bummer.

For the 1988 sheet I had, here's the info from a couple years ago about it.

The blue line proof sheet used in the original production of 1988 Fleer Basebal Cards. This sheet was obtained from the original photographer who produced player photos and stats for Fleer Corp in the 1980's. Wax like paper sheet containing six rows of eleven player card photo fronts. Once the photos were taken they were scanned on paper sheets and sent back to the photographer along with the card back sheets for verification of faces and statistics. Once this authentification process was complete, these sheets were returned to Fleer for final production of the actual cards.

Steve Carlton, Bill Madlock, Ted Simmons, Mariano Duncan.....


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Photographer of the infamous FF card-

"In the past Fleer used to send us full color sheets, which we would use to check for reverse negatives and other problems with the picture. That year, to save money, they just sent us blueprints that were in three shades of blue."

http://borosny.blogspot.com/2010/12/interview-with-longtime-fleer.html

 

[MartinFFcollector]

Pics of my old sheet found via Google. Notice the David Green says First Base. He's Outfield on his 1988 card. Doubt someone faked this sheet and changed the position.

 

[MartinFFcollector]

I should add I'm not sure if the ones in the links are real. I know Blue Line Proofs exist, but unsure on those purpleish ones. Check Worthpoint. Think a full sheet sold awhile back. Maybe current seller bought it and cut it up. ?? At least you could see if it was purpleish.