2009 Bowman Chrome is Live on Ebay

[masonphillip]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Unless you prefer first-year cards (like me). There are just 10 FY autographs this year, and 8 of those 10 are pitchers. Yuck.

Last year we had 30 FY autographs...16 position players and 14 pitchers.

Bingo and from an investment perspective this really marginalizes Hanson's Chromes from 2007, Freddies from 2007 Draft and Santana's from 2008 Chrome. Now if you like a player that has a base chrome you always must wonder when buying...will there be an auto to follow?

 

[carlitoson]

Base:

BCP 136 Chris Dominguez (now C.J. Lee)

Autos:

BCP93 Randall Delgado (now Matt Miller)
BCP98 Gift Negope (now Matt Mitchell)
BCP99 Dylan Lindsay (now Graham Hicks)
BCP104 Ernie Banks (now Argenis Diaz)
BCP107 Ryan Perry (now Cody Scarpetta)
BCP113 Kyle Weiland (new)
BCP114 Connor Graham (new)

Also:
Base: BCP147 Matt Mitchell (now Jenrry Mejia)
Autos: BCP103 Jefry Marte (now Edgar Olmos)
WBC: BCW25 Nan **** (now **** Chao), BCW31 Kuo-Hui Lo (now Kao Kuo-Ching), BCW32 Hung-Wen Chen (now Po Yu Lin)

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Unless you prefer first-year cards (like me). There are just 10 FY autographs this year, and 8 of those 10 are pitchers. Yuck.

Last year we had 30 FY autographs...16 position players and 14 pitchers.

Bingo and from an investment perspective this really marginalizes Hanson's Chromes from 2007, Freddies from 2007 Draft and Santana's from 2008 Chrome. Now if you like a player that has a base chrome you always must wonder when buying...will there be an auto to follow?

I think past experience has shown that you no longer have to wonder.

Get the base chromes and get out of the base chromes ASAP.

 

[mburgin]

Not that I necessarily disagree with anyone who is complaining (Although I don't think it is the worst bc product ever), but I just wanted to post this picture in context.

exactly!

 

[Wes]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Lars, Villalona and Austin Jackson are better than all except perhaps the Viciedo.

 

[Crash Davis]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Lars, Villalona and Austin Jackson are better than all except perhaps the Viciedo.

I will take Hanson and Santana any day over those guys at this point.

 

[koch1974]

And freddie Freeman!

 

[marterburn]

Bottom line is that if you only care about content and not it actually being the 1st chrome card, the auto CL is decent at the least, way better than last year if you consider breadth.

But is the base CL any good? I don't see much there...

 

[Wes]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Lars, Villalona and Austin Jackson are better than all except perhaps the Viciedo.

I will take Hanson and Santana any day over those guys at this point.

Consider more than just the player. When 08 was released Lars was one of the top prospects in the game. Hanson and Santana both have had Bowman issues before.

 

[Crash Davis]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Lars, Villalona and Austin Jackson are better than all except perhaps the Viciedo.

I will take Hanson and Santana any day over those guys at this point.

Consider more than just the player. When 08 was released Lars was one of the top prospects in the game. Hanson and Santana both have had Bowman issues before.

History has proven time-and-time again, since at least 2008, that the first Bowman Chrome autograph is the most sought-after card of a player as opposed to their first Bowman Chrome prospect non-auto.

There are many case studies available which can be used to prove my theory such as David Price, Mike Moustakas, Jason Heyward, Madison Bumgarner and now Carlos Santana and Tommy Hanson.

It's irrelevant whether the player has had a previous Bowman issue so long as that issue was not a signed card. That is a fact.

And let me also mention that both Carlos Santana and Tommy Hanson were both considered top 5 overall MLB prospects, while Lars Anderson barely cracked the top 10. And his dismal 2009 showing has been a major reason why the 2008 Bowman Chrome product has dipped in price.

 

[koch1974]

You are right on the money Crash...

 

[MOFNY]

Ah another gold refractor to collect.

 

[bradical]

Even some 3rd year auto (2nd product autos) still held very good value and still sell for premiums from the 2008 product. Both Longoria and Kershaw had autos in 2006 - both also had supplement autos in 2008 BDPP and they still sell very well.

 

[Wes]

[quote="Crash Davis":esg1q686]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Lars, Villalona and Austin Jackson are better than all except perhaps the Viciedo.

I will take Hanson and Santana any day over those guys at this point.

Consider more than just the player. When 08 was released Lars was one of the top prospects in the game. Hanson and Santana both have had Bowman issues before.

History has proven time-and-time again, since at least 2008, that the first Bowman Chrome autograph is the most sought-after card of a player as opposed to their first Bowman Chrome prospect non-auto.

There are many case studies available which can be used to prove my theory such as David Price, Mike Moustakas, Jason Heyward, Madison Bumgarner and now Carlos Santana and Tommy Hanson.

It's irrelevant whether the player has had a previous Bowman issue so long as that issue was not a signed card. That is a fact.

And let me also mention that both Carlos Santana and Tommy Hanson were both considered top 5 overall MLB prospects, while Lars Anderson barely cracked the top 10. And his dismal 2009 showing has been a major reason why the 2008 Bowman Chrome product has dipped in price.[/quote:esg1q686]

It's irrelevant? I can say with a great deal of certainty that a Jason Heyward Bowman Chrome auto would be worth a heck of a lot more if the 07 BDP didn't exist. There is no way that card would sell for nearly the same price as the sterling. Same goes for Price, Bumgarner and the others you mentioned. Will the card still sell well? Probably.

I don't see Santana and Hanson outselling Lars and Villalona if you go by release prices. Sure, now prices have fallen on the 08 guys. But if you compare the sales from Sep. 08 to Sep. 09 of those particular players I think it's clear that 08's top guys will sell for more. Either way, both are terrible products.

 

[Crash Davis]

[quote="Crash Davis":kpitjff9]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Lars, Villalona and Austin Jackson are better than all except perhaps the Viciedo.

I will take Hanson and Santana any day over those guys at this point.

Consider more than just the player. When 08 was released Lars was one of the top prospects in the game. Hanson and Santana both have had Bowman issues before.

History has proven time-and-time again, since at least 2008, that the first Bowman Chrome autograph is the most sought-after card of a player as opposed to their first Bowman Chrome prospect non-auto.

There are many case studies available which can be used to prove my theory such as David Price, Mike Moustakas, Jason Heyward, Madison Bumgarner and now Carlos Santana and Tommy Hanson.

It's irrelevant whether the player has had a previous Bowman issue so long as that issue was not a signed card. That is a fact.

And let me also mention that both Carlos Santana and Tommy Hanson were both considered top 5 overall MLB prospects, while Lars Anderson barely cracked the top 10. And his dismal 2009 showing has been a major reason why the 2008 Bowman Chrome product has dipped in price.

It's irrelevant? I can say with a great deal of certainty that a Jason Heyward Bowman Chrome auto would be worth a heck of a lot more if the 07 BDP didn't exist. There is no way that card would sell for nearly the same price as the sterling. Same goes for Price, Bumgarner and the others you mentioned. Will the card still sell well? Probably.

I don't see Santana and Hanson outselling Lars and Villalona if you go by release prices. Sure, now prices have fallen on the 08 guys. But if you compare the sales from Sep. 08 to Sep. 09 of those particular players I think it's clear that 08's top guys will sell for more. Either way, both are terrible products.[/quote:kpitjff9]

For a while, Price and Heyward base chrome autos from outselling their Bowman Sterling counterparts.

 

[Wes]

[quote="Crash Davis":1mx5mgtf]

[quote="Crash Davis":1mx5mgtf]

Hanson, Santana, Freeman, Viciedo, Venditte... Already better than 2008 Auto checklist.

Lars, Villalona and Austin Jackson are better than all except perhaps the Viciedo.

I will take Hanson and Santana any day over those guys at this point.

Consider more than just the player. When 08 was released Lars was one of the top prospects in the game. Hanson and Santana both have had Bowman issues before.

History has proven time-and-time again, since at least 2008, that the first Bowman Chrome autograph is the most sought-after card of a player as opposed to their first Bowman Chrome prospect non-auto.

There are many case studies available which can be used to prove my theory such as David Price, Mike Moustakas, Jason Heyward, Madison Bumgarner and now Carlos Santana and Tommy Hanson.

It's irrelevant whether the player has had a previous Bowman issue so long as that issue was not a signed card. That is a fact.

And let me also mention that both Carlos Santana and Tommy Hanson were both considered top 5 overall MLB prospects, while Lars Anderson barely cracked the top 10. And his dismal 2009 showing has been a major reason why the 2008 Bowman Chrome product has dipped in price.

It's irrelevant? I can say with a great deal of certainty that a Jason Heyward Bowman Chrome auto would be worth a heck of a lot more if the 07 BDP didn't exist. There is no way that card would sell for nearly the same price as the sterling. Same goes for Price, Bumgarner and the others you mentioned. Will the card still sell well? Probably.

I don't see Santana and Hanson outselling Lars and Villalona if you go by release prices. Sure, now prices have fallen on the 08 guys. But if you compare the sales from Sep. 08 to Sep. 09 of those particular players I think it's clear that 08's top guys will sell for more. Either way, both are terrible products.[/quote:1mx5mgtf]

For a while, Price and Heyward base chrome autos from outselling their Bowman Sterling counterparts.[/quote:1mx5mgtf]

Nonetheless - if the 07 BDP didn't exist, the 08 would sell bette.r.

 

[bballcardkid]

This could be the first Bowman Chrome product in a while that I won't buy a single card.

Draft isn't going to look much better with Boras being pissed with Topps.

 

[Jaypers]

Draft isn't going to look much better with Boras being pissed with Topps.

I have the feeling we can thank Brian for that. By offering Boras' clients more than Topps did last year, he essentially raised the bar.

Makes one wonder if other agents are going to follow suit anytime soon.

 

[bradical]

I have the feeling we can thank Brian for that. By offering Boras' clients more than Topps did last year, he essentially raised the bar.

Makes one wonder if other agents are going to follow suit anytime soon.

By Topps owning the sole right to the MLB licensing, can Boras keep his clients out of Topps products? As long as they sign a MLB contract, they should fall under the sole licensing that Topps and MLB have agreed to.

 

[aaron41984]

Did anyone expect the design to be different than 09 Bowman? I just hope they make up for two horrible checklists with a Draft issue that tops all previous years... i.e. get Stras, Ackley, Tate, Martin Perez, Thomas Neal, +++ in the auto portion!

you wont see tate and ackley or any boras guy in draft this year


you won't see perez or neal because unlike last year its bowman chrome draft, not bowman chrome draft picks and prospects

Thanks, I was really hoping that the last couple of weeks of rain here in Little Rock would be met by an announcement that every Bowman product is gonna suck this year!