2009 Donruss Century Collection Baseball HAS BEEN CANCELLED

[A_Pharis]

FRACK!

 

[mredsox89]

Looks like it will be Bowman vs. Razor for prospects. Can't say I'm happy about this but im not too upset

 

[cgilmo]

FRACK!

exacty

I loved this year in donruss products.

 

[i43770]

Looks like it will be Bowman vs. Razor for prospects. Can't say I'm happy about this but im not too upset

Bowman may not be able to make "Prospect" cards. From what I was reading, if Topps wants to be the only game in town, they won't be allowed to extend past the 25/40 man roster.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Tremendous!

Although I don't buy them, as long as someone makes prospect/MiLB cards, I don't care. I just prefer for it to not be Topps.

Looks like it will be Bowman vs. Razor for prospects. Can't say I'm happy about this but im not too upset

Bowman may not be able to make "Prospect" cards. From what I was reading, if Topps wants to be the only game in town, they won't be allowed to extend past the 25/40 man roster.

 

[The_ReverendAct2]

No wonder BG was so ecstatic. He potentially could be the only option for prospect cards.

if you call minor league cards prospects then yeah he should be happy, but probably a large percentage of people don't prospect minor league cards.

 

[Jaypers]

if you call minor league cards prospects then yeah he should be happy, but probably a large percentage of people don't prospect minor league cards.

 

[cgilmo]

No wonder BG was so ecstatic. He potentially could be the only option for prospect cards.

if you call minor league cards prospects then yeah he should be happy, but probably a large percentage of people don't prospect minor league cards.

I do

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

No wonder BG was so ecstatic. He potentially could be the only option for prospect cards.

if you call minor league cards prospects then yeah he should be happy, but probably a large percentage of people don't prospect minor league cards.

If it's the only game in town they will.

Craig

 

[flightposite]

When is the current licensing deal up?

As for Minor League cards, I'd would love them... Too bad Tri-Star sucks.

 

[cgilmo]

When is the current licensing deal up?

As for Minor League cards, I'd would love them... Too bad Tri-Star sucks.

2010

 

[All In Cards]

When is the current licensing deal up?

As for Minor League cards, I'd would love them... Too bad Tri-Star sucks.

2006-2009, it ends this year, here is a copy of the Topps contract


TERM: 4 years (2006-2009)

FINANCIAL COMMITMENT (includes SportsClix, eTopps, and Hot Button Baseball
or new kid-oriented products, as approved by MLBPA, which would replace any
of the aforementioned products, at their respective royalty rates)

2006: $[*****] guarantee // [*****]% royalty rate

2007: $[*****]guarantee // [*****]% royalty rate

2008: $[*****]guarantee // [*****]% royalty rate

2009: $[*****]guarantee // [*****]% royalty rate

PRODUCTS:

2006-2007: No more than 20 total Major League baseball releases
(including two retired player products)

2008-2009: No more than 17 total Major League baseball releases
(including two retired player product)

**SportsClix, eTopps, Hot Button Baseball, Topps Box sets or new
kid-oriented products, as approved by MLBPA, do not count against
minimum releases.

** It is the intention of the MLBPA and Topps that there will not be
more than 40 baseball releases per year 2006-2007 and no more
than 34 per year 2008-2009 between Topps and its MLBPA-licensed
competitor.

Retired player content may be included in up to 1/3 of total Major
League Baseball releases with no more than 20% retired player content
in each (not applicable to the retired player products). Products
including current players must feature MLBPA members as the primary
message on packaging, marketing materials, etc. Topps may prominently
feature iconic retired baseball players (ex: Mickey Mantle) in up to
three annual releases.

Compliance with MLBPA guidelines applicable to all licensees in order
to serve the best interests of the category, which include but are not
limited to:

- Policies governing the acquisition of game-used articles and
autographs

- Rookie regulations and rookie logo usage (as mutually agreed upon
regarding design, size and placement of logo)

- Player exclusive agreements (currently limited to 3 in any calendar
year) for autographs, game-used materials and featured
packaging/promotion

- Prohibition on interfering with competitor's player relationships

Prospects (non-25 man roster players) may only be included in Bowman
releases in a mutually approved manner to ensure they are not
perceived as Rookies. Bowman will be granted, for 2006 only, an
exclusive 30-day window prior to the release of any competitive
products containing MLB rookies.

Products for each new calendar year may not release prior to February 1 of
that year.



-2-


***** Denotes information subject to a request for request for confidential
treatment.

<PAGE>

MARKETING EXPENDITURES:

Licensee Marketing Commitment (paid to MLBPA for uses listed below):

2006: $[*****] 2008: $[*****]

2007: $[*****] 2009: $[*****]


** Required expenditures for any competing licensee will be equal to or
greater than those listed herein

1. MLBPA Cooperative Category Advertising Fund ($[*****]/yr2006-07) to be
jointly coordinated with licensees. Any unspent funds may be carried
from year-to-year at the discretion of MLBPA and licensees.

2. Cooperative category marketing programs (up to $[*****]/year) to
support initiatives designed to attract new users to the category
including:

- National expansion and promotion of Boy Scouts initiative with
plans of incorporating more youth organizations such as Little
League or Babe Ruth baseball.

- Retail promotions and programs (ex: expenses associated with
player appearances, circulars, POP, etc. for 2004 Spring Training
and All-Star Wal-Mart and Target programs)

- Sampling programs (ex: annual Spring Training and Opening Day
efforts)

3. MLBPA and player marketing efforts (limited to no more than
$[*****]/year) such as Players Trust, Players Choice Awards and
All-Star Game Party.

4. At least 60% of all marketing and promotional expenditures by Topps
shall be focused on attracting entry-level/youth and sports
fans/noncollectors.

5. Nothing herein shall require Topps to support any program or entity
that is sponsored by a competitive licensee


MISCELLANEOUS:

Topps may make a charitable donation to The Players Trust in an amount
equal to its unearned royalties for its 2005 SportsClix license, but not to
exceed $[*****], in lieu of paying that amount to MLBPA.

Provide annual and quarterly revenue forecasts, with quarterly updates,
broken out by SKU and units

Provide retailer-specific sales information to improve understanding of
mass, sports specialty and hobby channels

Provide $[*****] product credit in addition to required samples

Repackaged and/or discounted products may be sold only into separate,
off-price channels

Quarterly meetings to review business and marketing plans and strategies

 

[All In Cards]

2010 is for Minor League cards

 

[cgilmo]

2010 is for Minor League cards

yes, I said 2010

because the deal runs through 2009

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

2010 is for Minor League cards

yes, I said 2010

because the deal runs through 2009

2010 will be an entirely different landscape for baseball cards...MLB and MiLB.

Could this next wave of licensing agreements be the straw that broke the modern hobby's back?

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Who is to say the current arrangement isn't detrimental to the hobby?

2010 may produce a streamlined hobby landscape. Streamlining may impact profits in the short-term because its tougher to make immediate profit in a streamlined, non-murky landscape. Streamlining may likely benefit collectors more in the short term and investors and collectors long-term.

We can't only consider us "advanced" collectors here.

2010 will be an entirely different landscape for baseball cards...MLB and MiLB.

Could this next wave of licensing agreements be the straw that broke the modern hobby's back?

 

[boxbreaker]

2010 is for Minor League cards

yes, I said 2010

because the deal runs through 2009

2010 will be an entirely different landscape for baseball cards...MLB and MiLB.

Could this next wave of licensing agreements be the straw that broke the modern hobby's back?

i think that is possible. lot of people are on the edge this year.

 

[The_ReverendAct2]

[quote="Blue Hodges Reverend":3m198ake]

No wonder BG was so ecstatic. He potentially could be the only option for prospect cards.

if you call minor league cards prospects then yeah he should be happy, but probably a large percentage of people don't prospect minor league cards.

If it's the only game in town they will.

Craig[/quote:3m198ake]

there is money to be made true, butwhenever a licensed card is released, the minor league card will plunge, but true prospectors are flippers not holders.older products will spike. although most of us could care less about beckett for pricing, the public will equate minor league placement in book to not being a rookie.

 

[xcantgobackx]

[quote="Blue Hodges Reverend":eiw9txpf]

No wonder BG was so ecstatic. He potentially could be the only option for prospect cards.

if you call minor league cards prospects then yeah he should be happy, but probably a large percentage of people don't prospect minor league cards.

If it's the only game in town they will.

Craig[/quote:eiw9txpf]

I can't say that's true. The only reason I buy Bowman is I prefer "Rookie Cards" of the players I like in their MLB uniforms. If Minor League cards are the only game in town for younger players, I'll wait til their MLB card comes out.

 

[theplasticman]

Part of me wonders if MLB would do something along the lines of not allowing draftees to sign certain card agreements outside of their "rookie" plan.