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cgilmo

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rainmanesq said:
cgilmo said:
i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.


Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

oh but they are



Happens every day.
 

rainmanesq

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cgilmo said:
rainmanesq said:
cgilmo said:
i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.


Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

oh but they are



Happens every day.

so you think all of the hype/$300-400+ price jump is due to 'average collectors' (most of whom only bust 1-5 cases/year if that) rather than say bulk rippers/guys who buy to flip or is it a case of distributors/middle men increasing prices just as speculation hoping that someone will bite?
 

Bob Loblaw

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rainmanesq said:
cgilmo said:
i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.


Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release


People are ******* idiots.
 

uniquebaseballcards

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Unquestionably currently established collectors aren't responsible for current price levels. This should be obvious because there isn't enough money with currently established collectors to support current prices.

Hype will bring in hobby outsiders all the time, we're just seeing an extreme example now. If you think about it hype is meant to bring in hobby outsiders more than hobby insiders...hobby insiders should already know about a player before the hype.

Jeff N. said:
rainmanesq said:
cgilmo said:
i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.

Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

People are fracking idiots.
 

cgilmo

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uniquebaseballcards said:
Unquestionably currently established collectors aren't responsible for current price levels. This should be obvious because there isn't enough money with currently established collectors to support current prices.

Hype will bring in hobby outsiders all the time, we're just seeing an extreme example now. If you think about it hype is meant to bring in hobby outsiders more than hobby insiders...hobby insiders should already know about a player before the hype.

Jeff N. said:
rainmanesq said:
cgilmo said:
i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.

Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

People are fracking idiots.

This isn't true

These buys are coming from established long time collectors for the most part.
 

craftysouthpaw

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cgilmo said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
Unquestionably currently established collectors aren't responsible for current price levels. This should be obvious because there isn't enough money with currently established collectors to support current prices.

Hype will bring in hobby outsiders all the time, we're just seeing an extreme example now. If you think about it hype is meant to bring in hobby outsiders more than hobby insiders...hobby insiders should already know about a player before the hype.

Jeff N. said:
rainmanesq said:
cgilmo said:
i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.

Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

People are fracking idiots.

This isn't true

These buys are coming from established long time collectors for the most part.

Agreed. Even with no new buyers entering the market because of Strasburg, the same historic pool of collectors have less product to choose from these days. So the same pool of money is chasing a lower supply of cards - hence, prices go up. It isn't that we have more money these days - it is just there are more of us chasing the same few products versus prior years.
 

bmc398

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craftysouthpaw said:
cgilmo said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
Unquestionably currently established collectors aren't responsible for current price levels. This should be obvious because there isn't enough money with currently established collectors to support current prices.

Hype will bring in hobby outsiders all the time, we're just seeing an extreme example now. If you think about it hype is meant to bring in hobby outsiders more than hobby insiders...hobby insiders should already know about a player before the hype.

Jeff N. said:
rainmanesq said:
[quote="cgilmo":2s9t80bs]i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.

Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

People are fracking idiots.

This isn't true

These buys are coming from established long time collectors for the most part.

Agreed. Even with no new buyers entering the market because of Strasburg, the same historic pool of collectors have less product to choose from these days. So the same pool of money is chasing a lower supply of cards - hence, prices go up. It isn't that we have more money these days - it is just there are more of us chasing the same few products versus prior years.[/quote:2s9t80bs]
I get your theory but thats not whats happening at all.

I don't get it at all why this is up $400 from 3 days ago. The people who usually buy at this point in the game are the big case rippers who buy a lot at a low price. There's no way they are buying right now.
 

DaProspectKid

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bmc398 said:
craftysouthpaw said:
cgilmo said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
Unquestionably currently established collectors aren't responsible for current price levels. This should be obvious because there isn't enough money with currently established collectors to support current prices.

Hype will bring in hobby outsiders all the time, we're just seeing an extreme example now. If you think about it hype is meant to bring in hobby outsiders more than hobby insiders...hobby insiders should already know about a player before the hype.

Jeff N. said:
[quote="rainmanesq":1t22pdgj][quote="cgilmo":1t22pdgj]i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.

Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

People are fracking idiots.

This isn't true

These buys are coming from established long time collectors for the most part.

Agreed. Even with no new buyers entering the market because of Strasburg, the same historic pool of collectors have less product to choose from these days. So the same pool of money is chasing a lower supply of cards - hence, prices go up. It isn't that we have more money these days - it is just there are more of us chasing the same few products versus prior years.[/quote:1t22pdgj]
I get your theory but thats not whats happening at all.

I don't get it at all why this is up $400 from 3 days ago. The people who usually buy at this point in the game are the big case rippers who buy a lot at a low price. There's no way they are buying right now.[/quote:1t22pdgj]


Yep people at this stage are trying to buy in bulk to rip cases. No one is going to buy in bulk at these crazy prices right now.
 

superwhat

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I cant wait to rip these cases open. Besides the stras super, I'm not sure why.

Oh! I remember because the last time I ripped a case it was 1998 Donruss. Ohh how i love elite cards.

And BTW, Im driving up the prices. I know. I'm Sorry
 

cgilmo

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bmc398 said:
craftysouthpaw said:
cgilmo said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
Unquestionably currently established collectors aren't responsible for current price levels. This should be obvious because there isn't enough money with currently established collectors to support current prices.

Hype will bring in hobby outsiders all the time, we're just seeing an extreme example now. If you think about it hype is meant to bring in hobby outsiders more than hobby insiders...hobby insiders should already know about a player before the hype.

Jeff N. said:
[quote="rainmanesq":2043jcuc][quote="cgilmo":2043jcuc]i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.

Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

People are fracking idiots.

This isn't true

These buys are coming from established long time collectors for the most part.

Agreed. Even with no new buyers entering the market because of Strasburg, the same historic pool of collectors have less product to choose from these days. So the same pool of money is chasing a lower supply of cards - hence, prices go up. It isn't that we have more money these days - it is just there are more of us chasing the same few products versus prior years.[/quote:2043jcuc]
I get your theory but thats not whats happening at all.

I don't get it at all why this is up $400 from 3 days ago. The people who usually buy at this point in the game are the big case rippers who buy a lot at a low price. There's no way they are buying right now.[/quote:2043jcuc]

I am telling you, that IS what is happening. I see these things get sold and who is buying them.
 

bmc398

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cgilmo said:
bmc398 said:
craftysouthpaw said:
cgilmo said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
Unquestionably currently established collectors aren't responsible for current price levels. This should be obvious because there isn't enough money with currently established collectors to support current prices.

Hype will bring in hobby outsiders all the time, we're just seeing an extreme example now. If you think about it hype is meant to bring in hobby outsiders more than hobby insiders...hobby insiders should already know about a player before the hype.

[quote="Jeff N.":3cuxgjj1][quote="rainmanesq":3cuxgjj1][quote="cgilmo":3cuxgjj1]i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.

Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

People are fracking idiots.

This isn't true

These buys are coming from established long time collectors for the most part.

Agreed. Even with no new buyers entering the market because of Strasburg, the same historic pool of collectors have less product to choose from these days. So the same pool of money is chasing a lower supply of cards - hence, prices go up. It isn't that we have more money these days - it is just there are more of us chasing the same few products versus prior years.[/quote:3cuxgjj1]
I get your theory but thats not whats happening at all.

I don't get it at all why this is up $400 from 3 days ago. The people who usually buy at this point in the game are the big case rippers who buy a lot at a low price. There's no way they are buying right now.[/quote:3cuxgjj1]

I am telling you, that IS what is happening. I see these things get sold and who is buying them.[/quote:3cuxgjj1]
Odds are they aren't buying to rip big man. Unless they are foolish they know they won't turn a profit at that cost on singles. Its the same old same old but they are now just speculating on the boxes to resell to the unassuming masses who they think will flock to this product.

In the end, its the result of hype. There's going to be a ton of this wax floating around if it comes out at over $100 a box and not a lot of buyers interested at that price.

Maybe in the end I will be wrong, but if I am all it means is that I won't be ripping at the market price and will get some from my hook-up instead. 2010 Bowman was a perfect storm, and Chrome will be a solid seller but I doubt the gouging will get as out of control as it did with BOwman.
 

Bob Loblaw

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bmc398 said:
cgilmo said:
bmc398 said:
craftysouthpaw said:
cgilmo said:
[quote="uniquebaseballcards":383bz2cd]Unquestionably currently established collectors aren't responsible for current price levels. This should be obvious because there isn't enough money with currently established collectors to support current prices.

Hype will bring in hobby outsiders all the time, we're just seeing an extreme example now. If you think about it hype is meant to bring in hobby outsiders more than hobby insiders...hobby insiders should already know about a player before the hype.

[quote="Jeff N.":383bz2cd][quote="rainmanesq":383bz2cd][quote="cgilmo":383bz2cd]i think you guys misunderstand who is inflating these box prices.

It isn't joe blow watching sports center, its the same ole collectors that it's always been.

Sure, they hype brings in the fringes, but the backbone is still us.
I can’t imagine many ‘collectors’ paying 1.1k/case, $400+ more than '07 bc got w/the timmy/joba hype shortly before release

People are fracking idiots.

This isn't true

These buys are coming from established long time collectors for the most part.

Agreed. Even with no new buyers entering the market because of Strasburg, the same historic pool of collectors have less product to choose from these days. So the same pool of money is chasing a lower supply of cards - hence, prices go up. It isn't that we have more money these days - it is just there are more of us chasing the same few products versus prior years.[/quote:383bz2cd]
I get your theory but thats not whats happening at all.

I don't get it at all why this is up $400 from 3 days ago. The people who usually buy at this point in the game are the big case rippers who buy a lot at a low price. There's no way they are buying right now.[/quote:383bz2cd]

I am telling you, that IS what is happening. I see these things get sold and who is buying them.[/quote:383bz2cd]
Odds are they aren't buying to rip big man. Unless they are foolish they know they won't turn a profit at that cost on singles. Its the same old same old but they are now just speculating on the boxes to resell to the unassuming masses who they think will flock to this product.

In the end, its the result of hype. There's going to be a ton of this wax floating around if it comes out at over $100 a box and not a lot of buyers interested at that price.

Maybe in the end I will be wrong, but if I am all it means is that I won't be ripping at the market price and will get some from my hook-up instead. 2010 Bowman was a perfect storm, and Chrome will be a solid seller but I doubt the gouging will get as out of control as it did with BOwman.[/quote:383bz2cd]


If people buy a $200 box of Bowman, they'll buy a $150 box of Bowman Chrome.
 

Casebusters

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They have to put it up at a high Buy in now because if it stayed at $700 a case, they would be sold out already...

These prices are from the secondary market, Not distributors because prices have not yet come out from my 3 distributors..
 

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