2010 Bowman Chrome information

[studioclint]

who is going to make that rule? There really arent any regulations for the card industry.

If anything make a Strict Release Date. Look at the music and movie industry. Most new stuff comes out on a Tuesday and you will not find the new movie or CD available til 12:01 am Tuesday morning.

Let the playing field be the same for everyone.

I agree that would be good. It seems like the MLB makes rules. Didn't they make rules on how many sets can be released in a year and stuff like that? I am not looking to argue as I do not know how any of this really works.

 

[Crash Davis]

Could this be the most anticipated baseball release of the auto/gu era?

It's quite possible that pre-sells will push $1,500 per case, presuming Strasburg stays healthy and doesn't develop a case of David Clyde.

If Bowman is @ $195 per box, Bowman Chrome has to be much higher considering the Bowman Chrome Strasburg autographed card inclusion.

 

[bmc398]

who is going to make that rule? There really arent any regulations for the card industry.

If anything make a Strict Release Date. Look at the music and movie industry. Most new stuff comes out on a Tuesday and you will not find the new movie or CD available til 12:01 am Tuesday morning.

Let the playing field be the same for everyone.

I agree that would be good. It seems like the MLB makes rules. Didn't they make rules on how many sets can be released in a year and stuff like that? I am not looking to argue as I do not know how any of this really works.

NO YOU'RE WRONG!!!


Jk...im not looking to argue either. I have a strong opinion and just like to vent.

I beleive that MLB sanctions how many sets can be put out a year. It used to be 15 each between the 2 companies but is like 18-20 now with Topps as the only game in town.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

Could this be the most anticipated baseball release of the auto/gu era?

It's quite possible that pre-sells will push $1,500 per case, presuming Strasburg stays healthy and doesn't develop a case of David Clyde.

If Bowman is @ $195 per box, Bowman Chrome has to be much higher considering the Bowman Chrome Strasburg autographed card inclusion.

There is one card driving that hype train and it won't be available to sell until after the guy is done pitching for the season. To me, that severely diminishes the value of the product, not to mention that he could very well be a short print...we have no idea how it will be seeded yet. If pre-sells push $1500, you won't see any of your normal players busting cases in bulk. There won't be 20 count lots to buy. This product is not a $1500 per case product. It will not be a money maker for anyone except the guys doing the pre-sales.

 

[rico08]

Could this be the most anticipated baseball release of the auto/gu era?

It's quite possible that pre-sells will push $1,500 per case, presuming Strasburg stays healthy and doesn't develop a case of David Clyde.

If Bowman is @ $195 per box, Bowman Chrome has to be much higher considering the Bowman Chrome Strasburg autographed card inclusion.

If 2010 Bowman Chrome were being released during the season, yes.

 

[vwnut13]

I really wish someone at Topps would make an effort to correct the "1st Bowman Chrome" issue that has plagued recent releases...

Look at the logo again. Notice the Logo is in green. It is Strasburgs first GREEN Bowman Chrome.

 

[theplasticman]

Could this be the most anticipated baseball release of the auto/gu era?

It's quite possible that pre-sells will push $1,500 per case, presuming Strasburg stays healthy and doesn't develop a case of David Clyde.

If Bowman is @ $195 per box, Bowman Chrome has to be much higher considering the Bowman Chrome Strasburg autographed card inclusion.

My gut says yes.

 

[loftlife]

Atlanta dropped their price to under a 999.99 now, was much higher this morning, like 1100 range... so did Blowout now at 999.99 too.

I guess they heard people loud and clear :lol:

 

[cgilmo]

Atlanta dropped their price to under a 999.99 now, was much higher this morning, like 1100 range... so did Blowout now at 999.99 too.

I guess they heard people loud and clear :lol:

no, the first prices out are always a guess


the second adjustment is a clearer indication of where they think the market is.

 

[Crash Davis]

TEAM USA AUTOGRAPHS
USAA 1-20

I see my next set I will be building

Topps Chrome = Collegiate National Team
Bowman Chrome = 18U
Future Product = 16U


on card, on chrome, with parallels

not on card.

 

[bmc398]

Atlanta dropped their price to under a 999.99 now, was much higher this morning, like 1100 range... so did Blowout now at 999.99 too.

I guess they heard people loud and clear :lol:

no, the first prices out are always a guess


the second adjustment is a clearer indication of where they think the market is.

Id like to think my underground boycott campaign is working!!!

 

[rainmanesq]

Lol they’re still about 200-250+ too high. Seriously, this isn’t a 1k case by any stretch of the rational imagination. I think this excessive gouging is going to cause more ‘lost business’/bad will than good will/$$$lined$$$ pockets.

 

[mredsox89]

Lol they’re still about 200-250+ too high. Seriously, this isn’t a 1k case by any stretch of the rational imagination. I think this excessive gouging is going to cause more ‘lost business’/bad will than good will/$$$lined$$$ pockets.

I don't think they will have any problem selling out their allotment. Maybe not at that price, but if they turned anyone away, there will still be plenty of people that will buy it if the price falls to $750 or $800.

 

[rainmanesq]

Lol they’re still about 200-250+ too high. Seriously, this isn’t a 1k case by any stretch of the rational imagination. I think this excessive gouging is going to cause more ‘lost business’/bad will than good will/$$$lined$$$ pockets.

I don't think they will have any problem selling out their allotment. Maybe not at that price, but if they turned anyone away, there will still be plenty of people that will buy it if the price falls to $750 or $800.

I’m not saying they won’t sell out, but @ 1k? I don’t think so...unless case rippers are more deranged than I thought. I can't imagine the 'usual bulk rippers' (mr.mem, brentandbecca, bc, myself, several others) thinking 'ooh, $1k, gotta lock up NOW b/c that's a steal' lol seriously, we're NOT talking about the cup/exquisite here + strasburg, while nice, doesn't make BC worth WAY more than it usually presells @.

 

[loftlife]

Atlanta dropped their price to under a 999.99 now, was much higher this morning, like 1100 range... so did Blowout now at 999.99 too.

I guess they heard people loud and clear :lol:

no, the first prices out are always a guess


the second adjustment is a clearer indication of where they think the market is.

Global is close to their price to after slowly inching upward all day yesterday... so 950-1000 seems to be the current bech mark. At this point Strasburg's performance is going to create most of the movement in the pricing.

 

[Wes]

How is it gauging if people are willingly buying the product? No one is holding a gun to anyone's head forcing them to buy the product. If you make a personal decision that the price is too high, don't buy it (as several people have said).

If anything, this shows that Topps is leaving money on the table with these few products. But given their past history of eating product, this is a business decision on their part and the pricing was probably decided months ago. Bumping up their cost here would probably be a short-term view since most future releases will not have this same hype.

The distributors/middle-men/whatevers are merely charging what the market will bear. Don't blame them for entering an established business model to make a profit. They are a business, not a charity. Sure, the cost is being driven by new entrants but that is typical of the market for any good product. It attracts new buyers which can raise prices if there is a ceiling on supply. In addition, there is a risk component factored into this pricing in that distributors always have the possibility (and the evidence) that product they buy might sit in their warehouse for years and/or eventually get sold much below their cost. When the opportunity arises to recoup some of that cost (which consumers typically benefit from) or protect themselves from future risk, of course they are going to do so.

The distributor model clearly makes money in the long-term for Topps, otherwise they wouldn't continue doing it. Cutting them out of the process would bring upon increased costs to Topps in the form of shipping, legal costs for contracts, warehousing, more employees etc. and their costs would almost certainly rise. Costs that woud get passed along to the consumers. The cost Topps charges to distributors isn't fully loaded yet so it isn't really a good measure of the cost base that would be the starting point for any sort of mark-up the customers would pay with distributors out of the picture.

People are clearly deriving value at $350 per Jumbo or they wouldn't be buying it. That value isn't necessarliy monetary - it could be because it adds personal value to their collection, because it is fun to rip, or because it is just hot right now and they want to be a part of it.

Yes, if you have a relationship with a vendor, a LCS, etc. you can get product much closer to cost. But don't mistake that for a true representation of the market price. You are paying something beyond money in the form of that relationship (be it friendship, bulk purchasing, a valued customer, whatever) that the vast majority of consumers can't pay.

When people say there is gauging going on here, it typically means their own profit is getting squeezed if they want to flip it. Which I find ironic. If someone has the intention of flipping and only buys one pack of 2010 hobby for $10 and pulls a Strasburg chrome refractor, will they sell that card using their cost to set their selling price? No, they will sell it for the $150 that the market will bear. So don't slam the distributors for doing the same thing.

Good post.

 

[cgilmo]

Atlanta dropped their price to under a 999.99 now, was much higher this morning, like 1100 range... so did Blowout now at 999.99 too.

I guess they heard people loud and clear :lol:

no, the first prices out are always a guess


the second adjustment is a clearer indication of where they think the market is.

Global is close to their price to after slowly inching upward all day yesterday... so 950-1000 seems to be the current bech mark. At this point Strasburg's performance is going to create most of the movement in the pricing.

actually no, strong sales at escalating prices is what causes movement.


sell a few... up the price.... repeat, all day


that is the formula

 

[vetsgt02]

Is there a list of who the USA auto's will be in this?

 

[bballcardkid]

Is there a list of who the USA auto's will be in this?

No, these autos are probably going to of the 2010 18U team which has yet to be finalized.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Is there a list of who the USA auto's will be in this?

No, these autos are probably going to of the 2010 18U team which has yet to be finalized.

If you go to USABaseball.com and look at the 2010 Tournament of Stars rosters...it will be 20 players from those combined rosters.