2011 Bowman Draft Picks Hobby Wrapper Odds

[The Third Eye]

Ouch! If its true that the Perfect Game (formerly AFLAC) autos are not stamped, case prices should drop. As someone else noted, the non-auto cards distributed at the game have "Topps Certified Autograph Issue" written on them.

So saying that Topps is being ran by monkeys is probably giving them too much credit.

 

[shayscards79]

The hits just keep on coming. BrentandBecca reports that Starling and Harper autos are redemptions.

No others are redemptions? Or are those the only two that they know of so far.

 

[Jaypers]

The hits just keep on coming. BrentandBecca reports that Starling and Harper autos are redemptions.

No others are redemptions? Or are those the only two that they know of so far.

Jose Fernandez as well.

 

[shayscards79]

The hits just keep on coming. BrentandBecca reports that Starling and Harper autos are redemptions.

No others are redemptions? Or are those the only two that they know of so far.

Jose Fernandez as well.

Damn, that sucks. I was looking forward to going after Starling autos since the auto set is so pitcher heavy.

 

[Jaypers]

Jim just told me on the back of Dan Vogelbach's auto, it says he was drafted in the "67th round". :lol:

 

[crowTrobot]

This should be the most important # right here -
2008: 3,500 cases - 17 autos
2011: 5,500 cases - 34 autos

2008 had an amazing class and they made 3,500 cases for 17 autos in the set. To have the same odds of that amazing set, the cases produced for 34 autos would have to be approximately 7,000 cases. With less cases, the odds in comparison to 2008 for pulling colored autos significantly increases. Couple that with one of the best and deepest classes ever (not top heavy), then it should make for one of the best sets ever as well. If 2008 was as good as it was with a quality set and much tougher odds of color autos, 2011 should be significantly better if the draft class performs up to its hype.

If 2008 bowman draft with those odds and draft class is able to hit $125-145 a box, then the initial worry about overproduction should subside as 2011 BDP should have great short term and long term value.

I saw you cross posted this on Blowout. As noted there the number of autos vs print run is irrelevant if demand isn't pushing the supply. The amount of money breakers have to spend doesn't go up just because production does.

 

[vwnut13]

I found some racks at Walmart.

Most of the things are 2-3X harder to pull than last year.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

Jim just told me on the back of Dan Vogelbach's auto, it says he was drafted in the "67th round". :lol:

Vogelbach isn't the only one with the draft round screwed up. I've seen a couple others.

 

[mwashuc06]

Jim just told me on the back of Dan Vogelbach's auto, it says he was drafted in the "67th round". :lol:

Vogelbach isn't the only one with the draft round screwed up. I've seen a couple others.

and this is why they should have pushed back the release date to fix these stupid mistakes. I think Elite may do a lot better than some think here and I am buying Elite now. I will buy chrome and have some guys that I am going after.

 

[vwnut13]

Quite a few of the prospects don't have "Scouting Reports" on the back. They just say:

[center:vl5g66yk]This is the Debut Card of 2011 MLB Draft Pick
PLAYER NAME
from 2011 Bowman Baseball Praft Picks and Prospects[/center:vl5g66yk]

 

[mredsox89]

Jim just told me on the back of Dan Vogelbach's auto, it says he was drafted in the "67th round". :lol:

Vogelbach isn't the only one with the draft round screwed up. I've seen a couple others.

and this is why they should have pushed back the release date to fix these stupid mistakes. I think Elite may do a lot better than some think here and I am buying Elite now. I will buy chrome and have some guys that I am going after.

If they didn't catch it originally, delaying it wouldn't have made the slightest difference. It's carelessness and laziness. Hire some intern to check these things before a product is printed, simple, and you could probably get someone to do it easily

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

Jim just told me on the back of Dan Vogelbach's auto, it says he was drafted in the "67th round". :lol:

Vogelbach isn't the only one with the draft round screwed up. I've seen a couple others.

and this is why they should have pushed back the release date to fix these stupid mistakes. I think Elite may do a lot better than some think here and I am buying Elite now. I will buy chrome and have some guys that I am going after.

If they didn't catch it originally, delaying it wouldn't have made the slightest difference. It's carelessness and laziness. Hire some intern to check these things before a product is printed, simple, and you could probably get someone to do it easily

Heck, JP would do it for free. Shoot, JP would build the set, make sure there was never a duplicate, that there was never a mismarked "1st Card", and he'd write scouting reports for anyone that was missing one.

 

[Jaypers]

Heck, JP would do it for free. Shoot, JP would build the set, make sure there was never a duplicate, that there was never a mismarked "1st Card", and he'd write scouting reports for anyone that was missing one.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.....stop the clock. That's a lot of work for free. :shock:

 

[P_Manning 18]

Heck, JP would do it for free. Shoot, JP would build the set, make sure there was never a duplicate, that there was never a mismarked "1st Card", and he'd write scouting reports for anyone that was missing one.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.....stop the clock. That's a lot of work for free. :shock:

They could pay you with cases.

 

[SeattleSports]

[quote="George_Calfas":3tan7y2a]
Cant use the Harper 1/1 alone (odds of 1,560,000) to calculate the print run.........Topps could have made 3,119,999 packs and still kept to these odds.

What does that even mean?

Seriously. And I didn't just use the Harper 1/1. I used the Superfractor Autos, Press Plate Autos and everything supports 5400 to 5600 cases.

Not say that you figured it out this way; I was stating that you cant use one insert alone to figure out the print run. My comment is base upon the first comment in the quoted thread from Ndepaul99.[/quote:3tan7y2a]

if the Harper Auto Relic Red 1/1 - 1:1,560,000, and you take that number an divide it by 288 packs, since it is a 1/1, i get 4,013 cases produced unless im doing something wrong

That's because his math was wrong. 1,560,000 / by 288 = 5416.