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jwc9p

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I am sure someone else has discovered this but I hadn't seen it yet. If you look at the promotion cards for the code breaking in the background of the guy's reflection there is a grandfather clock. If you compare it to other promotion cards you can see there are other times on the clock. I am certainly not sure what it means but I imagine the numbers on the clock mean something and possibly have to put some part of the code/cards in the mirror to see what the reflection does.....my theory at least
 

matchpenalty

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Man if the code breaker this year gets the special 1/1 codebreaker framed auto set that they have won in the past. They will have a gold mine with some of the autos in it this year.
 

Casebusters

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jwc9p said:
I am sure someone else has discovered this but I hadn't seen it yet. If you look at the promotion cards for the code breaking in the background of the guy's reflection there is a grandfather clock. If you compare it to other promotion cards you can see there are other times on the clock. I am certainly not sure what it means but I imagine the numbers on the clock mean something and possibly have to put some part of the code/cards in the mirror to see what the reflection does.....my theory at least
looked through my case of ads and got 8 different ones out of 48
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metallicalex777 said:
Whats up with this code card? I pulled it from a box earlier today...There is TONS of code-like gibberish all over the back of it.

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How many characters are there on the back? I was thinking you make some sort of crytoquip using that card. If you make the puzzle with the code parallels and replace each symbol with a letter, that could form some sort of words with the Gellner card
 

pigskincardboard

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Casebusters said:
I know one card is not correct but just showing what how this may work out

Thanks so much! I'm glad other people are trying their bestest to help people. Most of the time it seems like everyone opens up early on, but a lot of people have been mum.
 

jwc9p

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GoldenBuckeyes said:
How many characters are there on the back? I was thinking you make some sort of crytoquip using that card. If you make the puzzle with the code parallels and replace each symbol with a letter, that could form some sort of words with the Gellner card
I think someone else posted the code and the decoded message somewhere today. Either here or BO. I know I saw it earlier
 

A_Pharis

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Regarding the different times on the clock, I would have to assume it has to do with the symbols/writings on the backs of the code cards.

I know I've seen ones that say "twelve" and one that has the 9 of diamonds. What if each of the different backs has some way of representing a time on the clock. Maybe the order of the promo cards puts the "times" in order, and - in turn - that order tells you what sequence the code cards should be arranged in. Once those are set in order, that will tell you how to order the player cards with the corresponding corners lining up.
 

A_Pharis

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pigskincardboard said:
A_Pharis said:
Casebusters said:
codecards.jpg


I know one side is not correct but just showing what how this may work out


That's been the general consensus.
I used to have a bunch of puzzle card sets as a kid that worked just like this. Matching patterns to put them together.

http://wikis.lib.ncsu.edu/index.php/Mayan_Mathematics

would make that 16.

Maybe that would correspond to 4 o'clock? I would look for the promo card showing the grandfather clock that has the hands pointing to 4 (theoretically) and see what card number it is of the possible 48 promo cards. That may tell you what place in the sequence that code card is (the one with 16 on the back).
 

poppudaimadochi

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The one thing that keeps bugging me is: why do we have gold corners and black corners?? Unless there are two different messages...

As for the mini with the code on the back (that Alex posted a scan of), just take each letter/number and subtract 5, and you get the message ;)

Which leads me to believe, once set in order with the matching corners, each completed symbol gives a letter; and in the same way as for the mini, subtract 5 and you get the completed message. The blank corners on some cards are just here to provide the spaces between each word.

Edit: we know now the ciphers go up to at least 29:

$(KGrHqJ,!h!E3uYSOFrIBOH7sQj7OQ~~_12.jpg
 

pigskincardboard

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poppudaimadochi said:
The one thing that keeps bugging me is: why do we have gold corners and black corners?? Unless there are two different messages...

As for the mini with the code on the back (that Alex posted a scan of), just take each letter/number and subtract 5, and you get the message ;)

Which leads me to believe, once set in order with the matching corners, each completed symbol gives a letter; and in the same way as for the mini, subtract 5 and you get the completed message. The blank corners on some cards are just here to provide the spaces between each word.

Edit: we know now the ciphers go up to at least 29:

$(KGrHqJ,!h!E3uYSOFrIBOH7sQj7OQ~~_12.jpg

Yah, I figured 36. A-Z, 0-9.

Personally, I think it's harder than that. It's gotta be. Although, placing everything together to form a long script would be pretty cool.

If I assign numbers to each symbol, do you think we could each look on eBay and nail out maybe 10 cards?

I'd just replace each symbol with x01, x02, x03, etc.

So that we'd have a full databank of..

Andre Either, Gold, Blank, x22, Blank, x45

That would allow you to, at the very least, organize the cards. I don't have the time to do this myself, so I'd love some help.

Since we're not going to be able to find their ACTUAL number because there's just not enough backs of the cipher cards, using x02 seems to be the only way to go.

Once we do find the backs, we can replace x02 with "29" or whatever.
 

poppudaimadochi

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pigskincardboard said:
poppudaimadochi said:
The one thing that keeps bugging me is: why do we have gold corners and black corners?? Unless there are two different messages...

As for the mini with the code on the back (that Alex posted a scan of), just take each letter/number and subtract 5, and you get the message ;)

Which leads me to believe, once set in order with the matching corners, each completed symbol gives a letter; and in the same way as for the mini, subtract 5 and you get the completed message. The blank corners on some cards are just here to provide the spaces between each word.

Edit: we know now the ciphers go up to at least 29:

$(KGrHqJ,!h!E3uYSOFrIBOH7sQj7OQ~~_12.jpg

Yah, I figured 36. A-Z, 0-9.

Personally, I think it's harder than that. It's gotta be. Although, placing everything together to form a long script would be pretty cool.

If I assign numbers to each symbol, do you think we could each look on eBay and nail out maybe 10 cards?

I'd just replace each symbol with x01, x02, x03, etc.

So that we'd have a full databank of..

Andre Either, Gold, Blank, x22, Blank, x45

That would allow you to, at the very least, organize the cards. I don't have the time to do this myself, so I'd love some help.

Since we're not going to be able to find their ACTUAL number because there's just not enough backs of the cipher cards, using x02 seems to be the only way to go.

Once we do find the backs, we can replace x02 with "29" or whatever.

I'm already one step ahead :mrgreen: : I have a database with roughly 140 cards, all scanned (a few have a couple of corners missing). I only need to find the remaining 210 and I'm done :lol:

The list looks like yours, only to save time so far, I only list:

[name], Gold/Black, [TopLeft], [TopRight], [BottomLeft], [BottomRight], [HaveScan]

and for each I only say "x" if they have a corner, and "0" if they have a blank. 0 sounded good since the numbers 1-36 won't start at 0.

Let me know if you want to share our info.
 

pigskincardboard

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poppudaimadochi said:
pigskincardboard said:
poppudaimadochi said:
The one thing that keeps bugging me is: why do we have gold corners and black corners?? Unless there are two different messages...

As for the mini with the code on the back (that Alex posted a scan of), just take each letter/number and subtract 5, and you get the message ;)

Which leads me to believe, once set in order with the matching corners, each completed symbol gives a letter; and in the same way as for the mini, subtract 5 and you get the completed message. The blank corners on some cards are just here to provide the spaces between each word.

Edit: we know now the ciphers go up to at least 29:

$(KGrHqJ,!h!E3uYSOFrIBOH7sQj7OQ~~_12.jpg

Yah, I figured 36. A-Z, 0-9.

Personally, I think it's harder than that. It's gotta be. Although, placing everything together to form a long script would be pretty cool.

If I assign numbers to each symbol, do you think we could each look on eBay and nail out maybe 10 cards?

I'd just replace each symbol with x01, x02, x03, etc.

So that we'd have a full databank of..

Andre Either, Gold, Blank, x22, Blank, x45

That would allow you to, at the very least, organize the cards. I don't have the time to do this myself, so I'd love some help.

Since we're not going to be able to find their ACTUAL number because there's just not enough backs of the cipher cards, using x02 seems to be the only way to go.

Once we do find the backs, we can replace x02 with "29" or whatever.

I'm already one step ahead :mrgreen: : I have a database with roughly 140 cards, all scanned (a few have a couple of corners missing). I only need to find the remaining 210 and I'm done :lol:

The list looks like yours, only to save time so far, I only list:

[name], Gold/Black, [TopLeft], [TopRight], [BottomLeft], [BottomRight], [HaveScan]

and for each I only say "x" if they have a corner, and "0" if they have a blank. 0 sounded good since the numbers 1-36 won't start at 0.

Let me know if you want to share our info.

All my information is public (except i'm starting to fall behind because doing this is time consuming enough) and it's the very first link.

If you share it with me, I will post it online.

I don't have any plans to crack the code, but who knows, that may change over the weekend. Right now, I'm firing stuff up and floating any ideas for anyone to work with and that alone is taking longer than I thought it would.

If you've invested a bunch of time and plan on reaping the rewards, you probably don't want to share it with me.

I would just keep checking back on FCB and my site from time to time.
 

pigskincardboard

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Ah, it's -5 or +21. My mistake.

Hold on and I'll type it out, I guess.

WHILE STARTING A
BASEBALL CARD COLLECTION
FOR HIS TWO-YEAR-OLD SON
JACOBY, MIKE LEARNED
ABOUT THE GINTER CODE
PROMOTION AND TEAMED UP
TO CO-CHAMPION THE 2009
GINTER CODE-CRACKING
EFFORT. MIKE AND JACOBY
ENJOY ROOTING FOR THE
RED SOX AND COLLECTING
CARDS FROM THEIR HOME IN
PORTLAND, OREGON.



http://25yearsofprogramming.com/fun/ciphers.htm is handy.
 

nborton

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Casebusters said:
codecards.jpg


I know one card is not correct but just showing what how this may work out

This is a dumb question for those who have these in hand. But, is the front of the card the flower looking thing, and then something on the back? Like dozen or the symbol above the dozen card?
 

poppudaimadochi

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(edit after reading pigskin's page)

Have a database of 202 cards with their corner data, that's slightly over half of the set. A few stats:

-- 113 with black corners, 88 with gold corners (missing Weeks data);

-- all SP (301-350) I found are all gold;

-- for black corners: 1 corner = 2 (Votto bottom left, Wade Davis, top left), top 2 = 8, bottom 2 = 9, left 2 = 5, right 2 = 0, 3 corners = 1 (Brandon Phillips, missing bottom right), all corners = 84, info missing = 4

-- for gold corners: 1 corner = 0, top 2 = 10, bottom 2 = 1, left 2 = 4, right 2 = 5, all corners = 65, info missing = 3
 

poppudaimadochi

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@pigskin: I'll send you the data I have compiled to post on your website soon ;)

edit: first tweet from The Ginter Code

"As my uncle Reginald V. Thorpwell III said: Codebreakers are defeated and bitter, who don’t follow the Codemaster on Twitter. #thegintercode"
 

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