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poppudaimadochi

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those new clues are more frustrating than helpful to say the least... unless I'm missing something obvious...

GoldenBuckeyes said:
Do you turn all of the clocks 90 degrees and then use an area code to match it to a player's card, and it might form something on the puzzle map?

why 90 degrees??
 
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poppudaimadochi said:
those new clues are more frustrating than helpful to say the least... unless I'm missing something obvious...

GoldenBuckeyes said:
Do you turn all of the clocks 90 degrees and then use an area code to match it to a player's card, and it might form something on the puzzle map?

why 90 degrees??
I guess it was just the turning the keys and don't forget to turn them or useless they'll be. Do you have a picture of the puzzle and deciphers? I wonder if it does anything to assign the players the area code of their team and assemble a clock in that manner or anything.

I am the keeper of the code
Puzzle seekers, heed my ode
One entry each, grave is the cost
One false step and all will be lost
At the first point of Aries do you stand now
The sky stretching west to east before your bow
Your Navigational Star is directly ahead
And beckons you east, so go where you're led
Find the keys to the doors
Turn them all and our domain is yours

So that's my poem. What do you think? Found those keys yet?

I hear people are stuck, maybe calling it quits. The path to the keys begins where the Codemaster sits.
I'm really, truly not trying to tease, when I say you've had plenty of time to find the keys.
If you've put the puzzle together I hope you find it a beaut, because using it to solve the Ginter Code just does not compute
Best wishes to Jimmy Rollins on the day of his birth, I always like watching him play, for whatever that’s worth
Apologies for any confusion caused by my 11:27 communique, sometimes I confuse the day for the hour and the hour for the day
Something about the clock hitting 6:17 means I’ve started to crave some Boston baked beans
Anyone see that movie about the hiker who fell and got stuck? I stay inside because that kind of thing is just my kcul
Sorry about the typo in my 1:27 tweet. That last word being backwards leaves my rhyme incomplete.
As of yet, our domain remains undisturbed. What will we do when we’re waylaid by codebreakers perturbed?
Fair warning to those who are still on the field: Before the Monday sun rises will more clues be revealed
The time on each clock points to a card, though finding the connection may be quite hard
The Codemaster himself shows you the word that is key, but don't forget to turn them or useless they'll be
Our domain is oft visited when collectors explore, you'll find the keys all fit snugly right at the fore
Any more help you may need has already been spoken, decode my first poem and the code will be broken
 
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poppudaimadochi said:
anyone else can read the words on the piece of paper in front of the codemaster? especially the underlined one...
If I can find the one I have I have a magnifying glass right next to me ;)
 
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All I can see in it would be "Aaron". Also "A. Clinton" is on his shoulder, probably just the artist of the photos though
 

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the new clues aren't really all that helpful. have thought all along that the clocks needed to be transformed in some manner to isolate 10 cards. also, have tried "turning" them in countless ways (e.g., starting from 3:20 adding the times, reversing the times, using the times from the poem tweets, adding 7 hours to each time since the first point of aries is at 7:00 on an astrological clock, etc., etc.).

My latest foray has been to attack the poem. I was excited to discover that it is 360 characters long (360 degrees) and also that if you add a space between each line and treat the punctuation as nulls, it becomes 365. However, lots of crunching on that eventually led nowhere as well. I've converted all of the times (and variations from above) to positions in the poem, reversed the poem, etc.

Anyway, thought I'd share my latest in hopes that it might jar some new ideas/approaches loose. Taking a step back, here are my leading hypotheses:

1) While the puzzle itself may not be important (per the poem), I suspect that the values you can assign to each card via the clovers is important. Why else would they include as inserts the clover cards with their little number game on the back? You certainly don't need them to put the puzzle together.
2) There is something that we are missing in terms of translating the clock readings into dates/coordinates (no $hit, sherlock)
3) The poem is the key for a book cipher. Just not sure how to link the 1), 2) and 3) to it...

Finally, one last random avenue I haven't completely explored yet. In the puzzle, if you look at the running set of numbers from the ciphers, it starts with the 1-30 series, then the 2-28 by twos series, etc. Well, in total there are 24 series of numbers -- could somehow be a connection there to the clocks.

Somebody, please solve this. I need the headspace back...

btw, don't know if Jim from Sharpe Since 92 is on here or not. He's a nice guy and I've shared all of the above with him. He's shared his thoughts as well.
 

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btw, think there have been a few recent posts about how the symbol cards work. happy to share that too. there are indeed 30 and each of them has some representation of a number from 1-30 on the back (roman numerals, babylonian numbers, chinese numbers, dice, playing cards, etc.). you don't need them to put the puzzle together, but you can use them to assign two, three or four numbers to each code parallel card. i strongly believe that the clock times somehow point to these numbers.
 

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Random thought: the poem is made of 10 lines, and there are 10 different times on the clock...

Could you read the underlined word on the piece of paper?
 
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Is the code going to be a 10 word phrase or 10 letter word to tweet to the Codemaster? Take one letter off based on what is in front of him from the card, or just use each letter/word from the poem and assign it to the number of the card that matches to the poem?
 
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I am the keeper of the code
Puzzle seekers, heed my ode
One entry each, grave is the cost
One false step and all will be lost
At the first point of Aries do you stand now
The sky stretching west to east before your bow
Your Navigational Star is directly ahead
And beckons you east, so go where you're led
Find the keys to the doors
Turn them all and our domain is yours

The 360 characters/360° has to have something to do with it. Maybe assign each clock time to the nearest degree to use the degree to the corresponding letter?

1:11 66 A U
1:14 84 Space
1:19 114 L 12- G
2:20 120 O 15-J
3:14 84 Space
3:15 90 N 14- I
4:00 360 S 19- N
6:13 78 I 9- D
7:27 162 N 14- I
9:42 252 A 1- U

Gives you ALONSINA and 2 spaces, move each back 5- JUGINDIU and 2 spaces
 

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GoldenBuckeyes said:
Was anything here lost from the crash?

only my offer to share my spreadsheet... so, here it is:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... UxnNFR5WkE

this link will give you the complete puzzle, along with a whole bunch of analytical tools to help you dive in head first.

have at it. only 2 requests:

1) solve it. please.
2) if you do solve it and there is some brilliant insight or significant bit of assistance you can glean from the materials provided, consider sharing an auto or two from the code breaker set with me. :D

also, feel free to kick back new ideas & theories to everyone. it takes a village...

cheers!
 

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Are we really sure the puzzle is needed at all? The codemaster himself said using it does not compute...

Also, when checking Twitter, you can see that not a lot of people are risking a guess; which means either a lot of people gave up, of the code is much, much more complicated this year. Which sounds weird because if you look at years past, they are kind of easy to solve once you know the starting point. Here we know it's the clocks and still...
 

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poppudaimadochi said:
Are we really sure the puzzle is needed at all? The codemaster himself said using it does not compute...

Also, when checking Twitter, you can see that not a lot of people are risking a guess; which means either a lot of people gave up, of the code is much, much more complicated this year. Which sounds weird because if you look at years past, they are kind of easy to solve once you know the starting point. Here we know it's the clocks and still...


I'm betting Topps made it TOO hidden this year, and maybe only a really lucky guess will figure out the clues.

Either that, or they screwed up and the code doesn't actually make any sense.
 

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K. so, i guess it is hard. :)

saw that lots of folks visited the spreadsheet. hope it hasn't killed too much of folks' time...
 

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wheels56 said:
GoldenBuckeyes said:
Was anything here lost from the crash?

only my offer to share my spreadsheet... so, here it is:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... UxnNFR5WkE

this link will give you the complete puzzle, along with a whole bunch of analytical tools to help you dive in head first.

have at it. only 2 requests:

1) solve it. please.
2) if you do solve it and there is some brilliant insight or significant bit of assistance you can glean from the materials provided, consider sharing an auto or two from the code breaker set with me. :D

also, feel free to kick back new ideas & theories to everyone. it takes a village...

cheers!


dude, they should make you the winner with all the work you have done, but alas, some idiot will steal all your work and give you no credit. Good Luck!

Kevin
 

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GoldenBuckeyes said:
I am the keeper of the code
Puzzle seekers, heed my ode
One entry each, grave is the cost
One false step and all will be lost
At the first point of Aries do you stand now
The sky stretching west to east before your bow
Your Navigational Star is directly ahead
And beckons you east, so go where you're led
Find the keys to the doors
Turn them all and our domain is yours

The 360 characters/360° has to have something to do with it. Maybe assign each clock time to the nearest degree to use the degree to the corresponding letter?

1:11 66 A U
1:14 84 Space
1:19 114 L 12- G
2:20 120 O 15-J
3:14 84 Space
3:15 90 N 14- I
4:00 360 S 19- N
6:13 78 I 9- D
7:27 162 N 14- I
9:42 252 A 1- U

Gives you ALONSINA and 2 spaces, move each back 5- JUGINDIU and 2 spaces


Looking at what you have, your missing one clock card and one of your times I think is wrong. I have 8 clock cards in my hands and seen the other three online.
 

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Hey, dug out the thread to ask a couple questions: Is the code still live? I pulled a Carl Crawford from some packs tonight that has a couple patterns in the lower corners on it. Does anybody need it (or a scan)?
 

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bobwick30 said:
GoldenBuckeyes said:
I am the keeper of the code
Puzzle seekers, heed my ode
One entry each, grave is the cost
One false step and all will be lost
At the first point of Aries do you stand now
The sky stretching west to east before your bow
Your Navigational Star is directly ahead
And beckons you east, so go where you're led
Find the keys to the doors
Turn them all and our domain is yours

The 360 characters/360° has to have something to do with it. Maybe assign each clock time to the nearest degree to use the degree to the corresponding letter?

1:11 66 A U
1:14 84 Space
1:19 114 L 12- G
2:20 120 O 15-J
3:14 84 Space
3:15 90 N 14- I
4:00 360 S 19- N
6:13 78 I 9- D
7:27 162 N 14- I
9:42 252 A 1- U

Gives you ALONSINA and 2 spaces, move each back 5- JUGINDIU and 2 spaces


Looking at what you have, your missing one clock card and one of your times I think is wrong. I have 8 clock cards in my hands and seen the other three online.

I would be VERY interested in seeing that 11th hour... Still working on the code, but have fewer and fewer leads...
 

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