240 Packs of 2010 BC Redemption packs - Broadcasting Live!

[BowmanChromeAddict]

Hey guys, I'm broadcasting a live break of my redemption packs if you want to watch. just click on the ustream link in my signature.

 

[autorook]

Definitely need scans of the big hits!

 

[JTfor3]

OUCH! Just fyi if you need a witness, I was there. (I was WilsonValdez)

GL dealing with topps.

 

[Yankees1218]

You all will get to see the CRAZY hits that come out of this stuff. It was the best break ever!!!

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

8 autos. Yes, 8 autos out of 240 packs. 0 buybacks. 7 usa autos /99 and 1 usa black auto /25. That's it. I could literally vomit from disgust right now.

 

[cardsrmytherapy]

I can't see the feed from my Ipad (damn apple technology). Any way you can denote the notables?

Ouch--that averages out to about 1 auto every 26 packs. I'm sorry to hear you had such a ROUGH break...keep us posted as to Topps' response.

 

[James52411]

I think autographs are roughly 1 per 24 packs. This may have been a rough break but I don't think Topps did anything wrong. However, I understand your frustration given the cash you spent.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

I can't see the feed from my Ipad (damn apple technology). Any way you can denote the notables?

Ouch--that averages out to about 1 auto every 26 packs. I'm sorry to hear you had such a ROUGH break...keep us posted as to Topps' response.

8 autos in 240 packs is 1 in 30 packs, not 26. Brutal.

Matt Barnes black auto /25
Lance McCullers
AJ Vanegas
John Simms
Noe Ramirez
Nick Ramirez
Jason Esposito
Brett Mooneyham

 

[AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR]

I think autographs are roughly 1 per 24 packs. This may have been a rough break but I don't think Topps did anything wrong. However, I understand your frustration given the cash you spent.

So you were shorted 2 autos out of 240 packs?
Thats not bad for Topps.
I've been shorted 2 autos from one box! :lol:

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

I think autographs are roughly 1 per 24 packs. This may have been a rough break but I don't think Topps did anything wrong. However, I understand your frustration given the cash you spent.

So you were shorted 2 autos out of 240 packs?
Thats not bad for Topps.
I've been shorted 2 autos from one box! :lol:

He's speculating that they are 1:24. That is not publicized information. I can tell you this, had I known it was going to be 1 auto per 2 cases of wrappers (or in my case 1 auto in 2 and a half cases of wrappers)...I sure as hell wouldn't have touched Bowman Chrome. I'd love to have that money back in my bank account.

Also, 3 of my usa autos are repeats from BC (Vanegas, Simms, and McCullers) and all they are are base autos with a /99 serial number on the back. Not even a different picture.

 

[jlecates]

Also, 3 of my usa autos are repeats from BC (Vanegas, Simms, and McCullers) and all they are are base autos with a /99 serial number on the back. Not even a different picture.

Aside from the poor Auto-per-pack ratio this is the really idiotic thing from Topps with the redemption program. For the 18U the autos are /99 which is the same as Blue Ref Autos (from BC). But in the long run is someone going to opt for color or not? The blues win out of course and thus giving the redemptions less value to my mind - should have given them a color (purple, green...something).

 

[bballcardkid]

Wasn't it known that the print run of these packs was going to increase with one of Topps tweets 1 or 2 months after the announcement of the program. It went something along the lines of customers ordering X amount of cases would receive an additional X amount of redemption packs. I can't remember the specifics but it got literally no attention when it was posted.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

Wasn't it known that the print run of these packs was going to increase with one of Topps tweets 1 or 2 months after the announcement of the program. It went something along the lines of customers ordering X amount of cases would receive an additional X amount of redemption packs. I can't remember the specifics but it got literally no attention when it was posted.

I was chatting with Joe Castora last night and he mentioned something about Blowout selling redemption packs. So it sounds like Topps thinned the contents and sent the big distributors packs to sell to help them out. Of course I thought the point of the program was to make the products more valuable to the people buying the cases/boxes, therefore enabling the Blowouts and ATLs of the world to sell an otherwise weak product at a reasonable price. Now they are essentially double-dipping in the program. Got the benefit of moving product and now get free packs to sell. If this is truly what happened.... :evil:

 

[Bill Menard]

I COMPLETEY and I do mean COMPLETELY understand your frustration, Jim. You did however, have the chance to use them as "added value" to your purchases as both the packs and the redemption wrappers are selling quite well (and I believe they are still going up in price). I mean, no matter how you look at it, you got something extra. Clearly though, you didn't hit much of anything to be excited over and only 8 autos is HORRIBLE. I don't know that there were stated odds on hitting autos though that were ever released or guaranteed (like the one prospect auto per sealed hobby box that'd they make right by the customer if they opened a box and didn't get an auto).

Without oddsack info there is no way to really know if you were super unlucky or others that have posted their breaks were lucky. Maybe the odds really are supposed to be 1:30 packs. There is just no way to know. But there was about two grand of added value to your case breaks with this redemption program that you otherwise would not have had. But again, I totally understand the frustration.

 

[cardsrmytherapy]

NEWS FLASH--Blowout is now selling these packs for $8.33.

I remember talking to a high-level Topps executive shortly after this product was announced and he told me these would be sent to distributors/LCS's for those who discarded packs before the redemption was announced.

Now, instead of providing these to customers who might have missed out or to some of the people who keep their business going, they are being sold for profit. A perfect example...My LCS received 10 packs from Topps--he gives me four, and additional four to another customer, and two for last one. Between the three of us we basically keep this guy in business. I pull a Bubba Starling BLK AU #/25. He congratulates me and tells me to come back for more tomorrow because he's expecting more from another distributor. Stay classy.

Not to get off topic, but I think Topps should put a stop to that--if the distributor has no way of sending the packs to these customers, then return them to be used to make up for breaks like Jim's. I cannot wait to see what Topps comes back with in this case--I will be eagerly watching this thread.

Does anyone else see how wrong this is?

WTF?

 

[bear0555]

Jim,

I caught the tail end of your break last night and only knew of your matt barnes black auto. However, I'm not sure I can empathize your frustration. With the amount of bowman chrome produced and the announcement of the buybacks, I think you're lucky to get 8 autos out of what you sent in. Of course it could have been better but hitting an auto in about 1:30 packs is pretty nice for such a redemption program. In addition, I would consider over half the guys you hit to be very good players, including barnes. Of course it's lame to get some of the same base autos in bc with a lower numbering on the back, but at least topps included those into the packs. Hold the autos and I'm positive you will realize your break is better than you feel it is. Cheer up buddy.

Anthony

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

I COMPLETEY and I do mean COMPLETELY understand your frustration, Jim. You did however, have the chance to use them as "added value" to your purchases as both the packs and the redemption wrappers are selling quite well (and I believe they are still going up in price). I mean, no matter how you look at it, you got something extra. Clearly though, you didn't hit much of anything to be excited over and only 8 autos is HORRIBLE. I don't know that there were stated odds on hitting autos though that were ever released or guaranteed (like the one prospect auto per sealed hobby box that'd they make right by the customer if they opened a box and didn't get an auto).

Without oddsack info there is no way to really know if you were super unlucky or others that have posted their breaks were lucky. Maybe the odds really are supposed to be 1:30 packs. There is just no way to know. But there was about two grand of added value to your case breaks with this redemption program that you otherwise would not have had. But again, I totally understand the frustration.

I appreciate your empathy, however I disagree with your assertion that this was something extra. I did not buy these cases prior to the announcement of the wrapper redemption, I bought cases BECAUSE of the wrapper redemption. Therefore these were not free, they were very much a calculated part of the value that I believed was in 2010 BC and the reason I believed it would be a worthwhile busting venture...hasn't worked out that way, but there is always a risk and I understand that. I still have plenty of 2010 BC to sell, so there is hope.

I realize what I'm about to say is nothing but assumption, but this is what I believed was going to happen: I assumed (yeah, I said it) that autos would show up around 1 per case (1 in 12 redemption packs or 1 per 12 boxes of BC). I thought this program would basically add a case hit. Therefore with no further information contrary, I opened these with confidence believing (assuming) there would be more hits.

I'm okay guys, I don't need further coddling or comfort. I'll be fine. I'm going to finish sorting and hopefully be the first person to list 20 count lots of these bowman black cards and hopefully I make out okay.

 

[sunojorel]

011873
Post subject: Bowman Chrome 25% announcement
PostPosted: November 27th, 2010, 9:30


Maybe I missed it here but if not, enjoy.......

2010 Bowman Chrome 25% Announcement

In an effort to cover the collectors who purchased 2010 Bowman Chrome Baseball (and ultimately threw out their wrappers) before the wrapper redemption program was unveiled and to show that Topps values and appreciates its partnerships, the company announces that each Master Hobby Distributor and each Topps Direct Account will receive enough 5-card wrapper redemption packs to cover 25% of their original 2010 Bowman Chrome Baseball order.
In addition, the program has been extended to July 31st, 2011.

Below are details of the recently-announced program.


TOPPS ANNOUNCES SPECIAL BOWMAN CHROME WRAPPER-REDEMPTION PROGRAM
Topps announces for every 18 wrappers (HOBBY ONLY) of 2010 Bowman Chrome Baseball sent to the company, collectors will receive an exclusive 5-card pack of exclusive BLACK-BORDERED PARALLELS of 2010 BOWMAN BASEBALL cards . All 110 prospect subjects from 2010 Bowman Baseball will be included.


In addition, randomly inserted into these packs will be:


. 37-card USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black Bordered Autographs #'d to 25.featuring the 2010 Collegiate National Team and the 2010 18U National Team.


5-card Bowman Chrome Rookies & Prospects Autographs #'d to 100. Featuring Buster Posey, Mike Stanton, Mike Moustakas, Miguel Sano and Dustin Ackley.


And because of a production error, the previously announced Autographed 2010 Bowman Chrome USA BUYBACK program will now be included as part of this wrapper redemption. Cards will be sequentially numbered with foil stamping to 100 and will include Bryce Harper, James Taillon, Yasmani Grandal, Drew Pomeranz, Michael Choice, Christian Colon, Manny Machado and Bryce Brentz.


The deadline for the promotion is 7/31/11


Wrappers should be sent to:
PO BOX 2230
Duryea, PA 18642
ATTN: Bowman Chrome Promotion

 

[JoshHamilton]

So people are STILL complaining about getting free and unannounced stuff?
Geesh. Greed is amazing.

 

[sunojorel]

So people are STILL complaining about getting free and unannounced stuff?
Geesh. Greed is amazing.

FYI it is not a complaint about free stuff.
The things that are free are the black parallels, and the auto's of UsA's etc.
THE BUYBACKS were supposed to be included in product and by the numbers Jim should have pulled two of them from his case.
TOPPS didnt include them, THEN they watered down the odds of pulling them.

I know for a fact I purchased many cases based on the fact that I should pull "x-amount of buybacks" that we're left out of distribution.
Joe