31% of Razor Letterman players not in Signature

[Jaypers]

I do know that Threads' print run of 280 for Collier consisted of the TOTAL amount of letters in his last name, not the individual letters. I'm fairly certain Brian intends to do the same, but I just shot him an email to make sure.

I believe it is per letter there is 50. He said each letter is a seperate card and will have different pictures and numbers on the live ustream we did for The Card Podcast.

Ok thanks Rob. Maybe I was being too optimistic.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I do know that Threads' print run of 280 for Collier consisted of the TOTAL amount of letters in his last name, not the individual letters. I'm fairly certain Brian intends to do the same, but I just shot him an email to make sure.

Please let me know the outcome. I thought I had read in a different thread that it'd be 50 per letter, but, obviously, I've been wrong before.

Think about it, though. 100 players. 50 per player. That's 5000 Lettermen total. 5 per box. 1000 boxes total? 5 boxes per case. 200 total cases? That doesn't sound right. Even with inserts, you may get it up to maybe 300 cases? Still seems rather low. I could be wrong though.

 

[beefycheddar]

I do know that Threads' print run of 280 for Collier consisted of the TOTAL amount of letters in his last name, not the individual letters. I'm fairly certain Brian intends to do the same, but I just shot him an email to make sure.

Please let me know the outcome. I thought I had read in a different thread that it'd be 50 per letter, but, obviously, I've been wrong before.

Think about it, though. 100 players. 50 per player. That's 5000 Lettermen total. 5 per box. 1000 boxes total? 5 boxes per case. 200 total cases? That doesn't sound right. Even with inserts, you may get it up to maybe 300 cases? Still seems rather low. I could be wrong though.

I posted the answer above, or you can just listen to the podcast and hear it direct from Brian. If need be I can pull the exact audio clip.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I do know that Threads' print run of 280 for Collier consisted of the TOTAL amount of letters in his last name, not the individual letters. I'm fairly certain Brian intends to do the same, but I just shot him an email to make sure.

Please let me know the outcome. I thought I had read in a different thread that it'd be 50 per letter, but, obviously, I've been wrong before.

Think about it, though. 100 players. 50 per player. That's 5000 Lettermen total. 5 per box. 1000 boxes total? 5 boxes per case. 200 total cases? That doesn't sound right. Even with inserts, you may get it up to maybe 300 cases? Still seems rather low. I could be wrong though.

I posted the answer above, or you can just listen to the podcast and hear it direct from Brian. If need be I can pull the exact audio clip.

Right. You posted while I was still typing. Sorry.

Thanks for posting the answer. I guess that brings up another issue - I'd say Collier is one of the mid-range guys, and his Threads Letterman, which is obviously a tough pull (I cracked 8 boxes and didn't pull a single Letterman), goes for about $20. Do you think that the Razor Lettermen will have a significantly higher market value than the already existing Donruss Threads lettermen?

 

[bballcardkid]

If Collier sells for $100, I need to take a home equity loan and buy every case I can get my hands on.

 

[KC37]

I don't think the Threads is an insert card - my Kalish is card #153, which makes it part of the set, I would think.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

[quote="Jeff N.":a7zlcxv9]

I do know that Threads' print run of 280 for Collier consisted of the TOTAL amount of letters in his last name, not the individual letters. I'm fairly certain Brian intends to do the same, but I just shot him an email to make sure.

Please let me know the outcome. I thought I had read in a different thread that it'd be 50 per letter, but, obviously, I've been wrong before.

Think about it, though. 100 players. 50 per player. That's 5000 Lettermen total. 5 per box. 1000 boxes total? 5 boxes per case. 200 total cases? That doesn't sound right. Even with inserts, you may get it up to maybe 300 cases? Still seems rather low. I could be wrong though.

I posted the answer above, or you can just listen to the podcast and hear it direct from Brian. If need be I can pull the exact audio clip.

Right. You posted while I was still typing. Sorry.

Thanks for posting the answer. I guess that brings up another issue - I'd say Collier is one of the mid-range guys, and his Threads Letterman, which is obviously a tough pull (I cracked 8 boxes and didn't pull a single Letterman), goes for about $20. Do you think that the Razor Lettermen will have a significantly higher market value than the already existing Donruss Threads lettermen?[/quote:a7zlcxv9]

No. I'm a huge supporter of signature series, but I don't see this lettermen set working. I agree that they'll be seen more as inserts then rookie cards. Also, with only 5 cards in a box you need a significant hit to make up for the other 4 cards most likely being unheard of guys. I don't expect to make money on a box of any brand, but I could see a lot of $10-$15 total value boxes from this set if you don't get one of the big guys.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

If Collier sells for $100, I need to take a home equity loan and buy every case I can get my hands on.

With the mortgage business as it is, good luck with that.

 

[KC37]

[quote="Jeff N.":2x654734]

I do know that Threads' print run of 280 for Collier consisted of the TOTAL amount of letters in his last name, not the individual letters. I'm fairly certain Brian intends to do the same, but I just shot him an email to make sure.

Please let me know the outcome. I thought I had read in a different thread that it'd be 50 per letter, but, obviously, I've been wrong before.

Think about it, though. 100 players. 50 per player. That's 5000 Lettermen total. 5 per box. 1000 boxes total? 5 boxes per case. 200 total cases? That doesn't sound right. Even with inserts, you may get it up to maybe 300 cases? Still seems rather low. I could be wrong though.

I posted the answer above, or you can just listen to the podcast and hear it direct from Brian. If need be I can pull the exact audio clip.

Right. You posted while I was still typing. Sorry.

Thanks for posting the answer. I guess that brings up another issue - I'd say Collier is one of the mid-range guys, and his Threads Letterman, which is obviously a tough pull (I cracked 8 boxes and didn't pull a single Letterman), goes for about $20. Do you think that the Razor Lettermen will have a significantly higher market value than the already existing Donruss Threads lettermen?

No. I'm a huge supporter of signature series, but I don't see this lettermen set working. I agree that they'll be seen more as inserts then rookie cards. Also, with only 5 cards in a box you need a significant hit to make up for the other 4 cards most likely being unheard of guys. I don't expect to make money on a box of any brand, but I could see a lot of $10-$15 total value boxes from this set if you don't get one of the big guys.[/quote:2x654734]

Maybe for the next go, these can be hand-packed like UD's Cup Hockey. That way there's some decent balance - just make it a 5-card tin/pack.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

[quote="Jeff N.":194fvmej]

I do know that Threads' print run of 280 for Collier consisted of the TOTAL amount of letters in his last name, not the individual letters. I'm fairly certain Brian intends to do the same, but I just shot him an email to make sure.

Please let me know the outcome. I thought I had read in a different thread that it'd be 50 per letter, but, obviously, I've been wrong before.

Think about it, though. 100 players. 50 per player. That's 5000 Lettermen total. 5 per box. 1000 boxes total? 5 boxes per case. 200 total cases? That doesn't sound right. Even with inserts, you may get it up to maybe 300 cases? Still seems rather low. I could be wrong though.

I posted the answer above, or you can just listen to the podcast and hear it direct from Brian. If need be I can pull the exact audio clip.

Right. You posted while I was still typing. Sorry.

Thanks for posting the answer. I guess that brings up another issue - I'd say Collier is one of the mid-range guys, and his Threads Letterman, which is obviously a tough pull (I cracked 8 boxes and didn't pull a single Letterman), goes for about $20. Do you think that the Razor Lettermen will have a significantly higher market value than the already existing Donruss Threads lettermen?

No. I'm a huge supporter of signature series, but I don't see this lettermen set working. I agree that they'll be seen more as inserts then rookie cards. Also, with only 5 cards in a box you need a significant hit to make up for the other 4 cards most likely being unheard of guys. I don't expect to make money on a box of any brand, but I could see a lot of $10-$15 total value boxes from this set if you don't get one of the big guys.[/quote:194fvmej]

I've got to agree. I loved Signature Series, but I won't be buying any boxes or cases of Letterman. It is set up to be a complete fail. The 50 cards per letter is just a creative masking of the total print run. I'd have a very hard time believing that anyone will consider a "C" collier as a different card than an "L" collier...oh wait, is there 2 "L" collier cards? This is just messy.

 

[kentuckyderby]

Sorry for posting about Collier going for $100
I thought I had a smiley next to it
I was just kidding because I knew that is one guy JP targets
Would have clarified it sooner to avoid all the comments about it but I was aay all day yesterday

Actually, no idea how much they will go for. Razor is a tricky product to predict right now. Some of the cards you would think would go for a pretty penny (/5) end up going for the price of 3-4 packs. It is a buyer's market

 

[ru4scuba]

I don't think the Threads is an insert card - my Kalish is card #153, which makes it part of the set, I would think.

Correct. They are numbered as part of the set.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I don't think the Threads is an insert card - my Kalish is card #153, which makes it part of the set, I would think.

Correct. They are numbered as part of the set.

Does the market care whether they're #ed as an insert or part of the set? I think the market essentially treats it as an insert.

 

[ru4scuba]

I don't think the Threads is an insert card - my Kalish is card #153, which makes it part of the set, I would think.

Correct. They are numbered as part of the set.

Does the market care whether they're #ed as an insert or part of the set? I think the market essentially treats it as an insert.

Colin DeLome Threads Letterman Auto /240 = $31

Colin DeLome EEE Auto /819 = $5

I'm too lazy to dig up more examples, but in this case the Letterman card seems to be doing well.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I don't think the Threads is an insert card - my Kalish is card #153, which makes it part of the set, I would think.

Correct. They are numbered as part of the set.

Does the market care whether they're #ed as an insert or part of the set? I think the market essentially treats it as an insert.

Colin DeLome Threads Letterman Auto /240 = $31

Colin DeLome EEE Auto /819 = $5

I'm too lazy to dig up more examples, but in this case the Letterman card seems to be doing well.

I guess I wasn't clear, and I apologize for that. I would think that in this case, when the RC comes out in the same product as the letterman RC, the shorter printed, patched letterman would do much better. And it is.

I am very curious how the Razor LM are going to do, and I'm VERY surprised of the opinions from the Razor supporters in this thread about their dismal hopes about the product.

My only thought is that I would find the product much more attractive if the letters were in team colors. College or pro.

 

[ru4scuba]

[quote="Jeff N.":3pxin0hy]

I don't think the Threads is an insert card - my Kalish is card #153, which makes it part of the set, I would think.

Correct. They are numbered as part of the set.

Does the market care whether they're #ed as an insert or part of the set? I think the market essentially treats it as an insert.

Colin DeLome Threads Letterman Auto /240 = $31

Colin DeLome EEE Auto /819 = $5

I'm too lazy to dig up more examples, but in this case the Letterman card seems to be doing well.

I guess I wasn't clear, and I apologize for that. I would think that in this case, when the RC comes out in the same product as the letterman RC, the shorter printed, patched letterman would do much better. And it is.

I am very curious how the Razor LM are going to do, and I'm VERY surprised of the opinions from the Razor supporters in this thread about their dismal hopes about the product.

My only thought is that I would find the product much more attractive if the letters were in team colors. College or pro.[/quote:3pxin0hy]

The example is from two different products, Threads and EEE.

Personally, I would rather have the base auto than the letterman. I've never card for the manufactured patches and the autos never look clean when signed on the material.

 

[MallCopKJ]

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