A&G code breakers

[jswaykos]

I don't know, Topps ended the contest pretty quickly last year, too. I doubt many people buy this product trying to break the code, anyway. Those that are serious about it already pre-order by the case.

 

[Footsteps]

Hey, all. First time poster here and long time reader of the sight. I only heard about the code a week or so before the A&G release and figured, what the heck, I will crack it. We are all human so we have to have an equal shot to crack the code.

I just read through the entire thread again (after reviewing it over the past week or so) and I wanted to say that all of you have had great ideas. One of the posters here even said that we should all share info if we really want to crack the code. Here I am and I wanted to share my thoughts in the hopes that we can crack it together. It would have been cool if Nick did it twice, but if it isn't cracked yet, it's time to start hunting again

Again, thanks to all of you that have posted your info. Yes, I have digested it all and think we have a few different layers to work through before we arrive at the end game / solution. I think the first part is that we need to find a "way into the code," so to speak. Unlike last year's solution (I read on the one blog out there), there was a clear set of cards that allowed one to complete the code. I think it was a 100 card set.

This year, there does not seem to be such a set, which leads me to believe that we need multiple insert sets (fronts and backs) to crack the multiple layers of the code. For example, the most notable cards are obviously the Celestial Stars cards. These have got to be the first part of the puzzle as it seems odd that they are not on the master checklist and the Ginter Code card that pops up in every few packs has Orion's belt in the sky (as seen through the window). The Ginter Code card is probably "the way into the code," and it's hinting us the Celestial Stars cards, which have constellations in the sky background. In addition, another hint that the "CS" cards have got to be at least the starting point is that Betelguese (a star in Orion's Belt, which is on the Ginter Code card) also has its own card. All of these "hints" cannot merely be a coincidence.

One other MAJOR item I noticed and I think was pointed out here was that THERE IS NO JETER BASE CARD!! How is that possible??

From here, I think we have a sufficient amount of hints that the CS cards are the key to the first part of the code (assuming there is more than one part). I also find it interesting that each card represents a Zodiac sign and that some cards have numbers while others don't, some players have gloves on and other don't. And, there is no Jeter card. Maybe we need to pull the numbers shown on the cards and Jeter's jersey number and put these numbers in some order to solve some sort of cryptogram.

Well, these are my initial thoughts.

Thanks for having me and I look forward to nailing this thing.

If you look at each of these 12 cards, each has a card with a matching background (1-6, 2-7, etc.). Notice that they are separated by the number 6.

 

[onenineeightsix]

I think it has to do with the pictures on the outside edges of the Hobby Boxes.

There is a Photo of a Turkey, a Flaming Torch, an Astronomer and a Ship.

There is in the set: A champion Turkey-Caller, A Fire-Eater, Gallileo, And Ship Captain Sig Hansen.

This HAS TO HAVE some correlation. I originally pointed out that Jeter has no card and I still think this is th emost critical piece of information, how to use it though is beyond me.

 

[frazzles]

One thing about the Gutenberg card, the thing that he is holding in his hand has no J on it if you look at the picture I posted. Not sure if I'm looking too much into it, but no J on the hand mould, no Jeter. I don't know.

I wish I had more time and resources to sit down and work on this.

 

[Guest]

I think it has to do with the pictures on the outside edges of the Hobby Boxes.

There is a Photo of a Turkey, a Flaming Torch, an Astronomer and a Ship.

There is in the set: A champion Turkey-Caller, A Fire-Eater, Gallileo, And Ship Captain Sig Hansen.

This HAS TO HAVE some correlation. I originally pointed out that Jeter has no card and I still think this is th emost critical piece of information, how to use it though is beyond me.

Which card numbers are those four?

 

[Footsteps]

Here is some more info that I assembled -

I analyzed each of the backs of the Celestial Stars cards and noticed that there were two sentences on each. Yes, I did notice that not all of them said 2010, etc. But, what they pointed to were (and I'm still working on the others) are the non-baseball cards. As you will notice below, I still have not figured out how the some of the sentences fit. My guess is that we need to align these various non-baseball cards in some order to come up with the first part of the code, which will point us to the final (or next) step.

CS1: powerful (body builder guy - Ryan Kennelly - #21) / look forward to career development (_______ #__)
CS2: achieve success through force of will (david blaine or _______ - #__) / entertainment (Jordin Sparks - #216)
CS3: great students, communitcators (Sacagawea: Interpretor & Guide - #20) / exceptional success from July to September (_______ #__)
CS4: Impeccable instincts and loyalty (Disc Dog - Tony Hoard & Rory - #193) / sense of stability (Shawn Johnson #236)
CS5: benelovent but forceful leaders (King Tut: Pharoah - #271) / Not Always Smooth (Sig Hansen - #203)
CS6: Inventive, intelligent, disciplined (???? - #__) / experience perfect health (possibly marathon runner/swimmer/lucy,etc. - #__)
CS7: coolest under pressure (_______ #__) / stability and health (whoever you don't use from 2nd above - #__)
CS8: intense, passionate, dedicated (_______ #__) / pinnacle (Johnny Strange - #211)
CS9: energetic, optimistic, committed to others (_______ #__) / start out w/ a "bang" (Betelgeuse - #68)
CS10: most mature, disciplined (_______ #__) / deep sense of satisfaction (captain nemo or summer sanders - #264/#199)
CS11: two sides: one shy, one dynamic (_______ #__) / surprises, vast improvement (david blaine or sherlock holmes - #__/#__)
CS12: keen, agile-minded sort (_______ #__) / healthy year w/ little more than mild illness or joint pain (lucy or X-ray - #20/#185)

My take is that if you match up the sentences with the non-baseball cards and then sync these CS cards up with their matching background card, you will have the order of letters that somehow pop out.

To the poster that noticed the "Turkey Caller" card - I noticed that one of the CS cards had the word "bang" on it and thought this was too much of a connection to merely be a coincidence.

Thoughts?

 

[Guest]

Since the Howard has the typo with the H, you have to find all the cards with an H in the name, and eliminate them, that is the start to the code, I got pretty far using it, still going now

 

[blazers091]

CS12: keen, agile-minded sort (_______ #__)

Dale Davis?

 

[Guest]

Anybody have any idea what the start of the code is?

 

[nkbeachboy]

CS8: intense, passionate, dedicated (_______ #__)
Stuart Scott 144 ?

CS9: energetic, optimistic, committed to others (_______ #__)
Regis 277 ?

CS11: two sides: one shy, one dynamic (_______ #__)
Laipply 95 ?

 

[Guest]

CS8: intense, passionate, dedicated (_______ #__)
Stuart Scott 144 ?

CS9: energetic, optimistic, committed to others (_______ #__)
Regis 277 ?

CS11: two sides: one shy, one dynamic (_______ #__)
Laipply 95 ?

It does start to look like the code starts from unscrambling all of the names matching the CS's

 

[Footsteps]

CS8: intense, passionate, dedicated (_______ #__)
Stuart Scott 144 ?

CS9: energetic, optimistic, committed to others (_______ #__)
Regis 277 ?

CS11: two sides: one shy, one dynamic (_______ #__)
Laipply 95 ?

It does start to look like the code starts from unscrambling all of the names matching the CS's

Hmm...good point. Care to elaborate?

To nkbeachboy and the others trying to fill in this puzzle - do you think we should interpret these literally or more "qualitatively"/looking at the general idea? This is the debate I have been having this afternoon.

I'm trying to think one step ahead to see "what is next." After we get into the code, I'm trying to predict what the next process would be. The last few years' codes were multi-layered.

 

[Guest]

CS8: intense, passionate, dedicated (_______ #__)
Stuart Scott 144 ?

CS9: energetic, optimistic, committed to others (_______ #__)
Regis 277 ?

CS11: two sides: one shy, one dynamic (_______ #__)
Laipply 95 ?

It does start to look like the code starts from unscrambling all of the names matching the CS's

Hmm...good point. Care to elaborate?

To nkbeachboy and the others trying to fill in this puzzle - do you think we should interpret these literally or more "qualitatively"/looking at the general idea? This is the debate I have been having this afternoon.

I'm trying to think one step ahead to see "what is next." After we get into the code, I'm trying to predict what the next process would be. The last few years' codes were multi-layered.

Maybe there are 2 people that go in each characteristic, we need to get them order by birthdays, and somehow use the birthdays of the base cards that fall in the signs, and take every so many words/letters

 

[Footsteps]

Okay, but the key is to know which letters and how many.

 

[nkbeachboy]

idk if you are close or way off hard to know without going further. i would try making the connections to the base cards and look on the back and some have numbers, culd be the beginning of a code?

 

[marterburn]

Playing off of what some of you guys are saying, I'm finding printed numerals divisible by 3 in the text of many of my non-baseball cards in the base set.

I only have 1 box worth of cards, but:

Kelly Kulick -- 2010, 195
Ryan Kennelly -- 6, 300
Ivory Crockett -- 1974
Leonardo Da Vinci -- 15
Sherlock Holmes -- 1887
Tyler Brandt -- 186
Johannes Gutenberg -- 15
Area 51 -- 51
The Parthenon -- 438
Tony Hoard & Rory -- 2004 -- '01 is also printed, but it's not 2001, so it doesn't count.
Summer Sanders -- 1992, 2010
King Tut -- 1341, 1323, 2010

The exceptions I have are Copernicus, Galileo, Hansen, & Betelgeuse. Interesting....

Again, only 1 box of cards...

 

[nkbeachboy]

i only bought one box as well noticed a lot of divisible by 3's as well dont really feel like goin through the list. we could be on to something but i have no idea where to even start lol.

 

[Footsteps]

Interesting to hear about the divisible by 3 quality. What if we organize the CS cards simply based by number CS1, CS2, etc., along with their matching non-baseball cards. We pull the numbers that are divisible by 3 and somehow pull a code from them.

 

[marterburn]

Maybe others can fill in the blanks with their card backs. Here are the blanks:



9 -- Kelly Kulick -- 2010, 195
10 -- Gary Stewart
21 -- Ryan Kennelly -- 6, 300
22 -- Lucy
38 -- Tiago Della Vega
48 -- Alan Francis
54 -- Tony Hawk
59 -- Ivory Crockett -- 1974
68 -- Betelgeuse -- EXCEPTION
73 -- Avery Jenkins
78 -- Leonardo Da Vinci -- 15
92 -- Randy Otiker
95 -- Judson Laipply
99 -- Anthony Gatto
105 -- Nicolaus Copernicus -- EXCEPTION
110 -- Sherlock Holmes -- 1887
112 -- Tyler Bradt -- 186
116 -- Galileo Galilei -- EXCEPTION
128 -- Hans Florine
129 -- Johannes Gutenberg -- 15
130 -- Area 51 -- 51
135 -- Ken Blackburn
144 -- Stuart Scott
148 -- Anne Donovan
152 -- The Parthenon -- 438
165 -- Nick Jacoby
176 -- Preston Pittman
185 -- X-Rays
192 -- Tom Knapp
193 -- Tony Hoard & Rory -- 2004
199 -- Summer Sanders -- 1992, 2010
203 -- Sig Hansen -- EXCEPTION
205 -- Meb Keflezighi
211 -- Johnny Strange
216 -- Jordin Sparks
232 -- Davy Crockett
236 -- Shawn Johnson
242 -- Jules Verne
264 -- Captain Nemo
270 -- Max Poser
271 -- King Tut -- 1341, 1323, 2010
272 -- David Blaine
277 -- Regis Philbin
296 -- Revolving Door
287 -- Drew Brees
297 -- Isaac Newton

I think that's all of them.

Note, my theory calls for printed numerals. So 9 would count, nine would not. Although that could be part of it too. King Tut has a "nine"

 

[diamondlistings]

I've found a couple things with the base that I didn't think too much of. The x-ray card has a captain nemo hat on it and on the nemo card, there is a number 51 in his tie but I haven't gotten anything on the area 51 card. I think the Da Vinci and blaine cards might have something to do with it if the base set has anything to do with the code.