Adenhart killer gets 51 yrs to life.

[Weatherwarrior]

Well Coming from someone who has lived in both Southern California and Sout6h Florida I can say this About Donte Stallworth on any given day driving across the causeway to Miami Beach anyone of has a pretty good chance of hitting someone or at least locking up the breaks due to people just randomly crossing the street. Now Factor in predawn travel and I believe The police report said the light was green (not sure?) also the fact that he was drinking those percentages for disaster went up 10 fold. And it is scary the number of people that make that same trip drunk of their A$$es.

Now When Mr. Adenhart was killed the offender was traveling at excessive speed and ran a light through an intersection and was stated before as being a previous DUI offender. That is why there are two different scenarios. (EDITED)

 

[lisu]

Excuses made for celebrity, none made for Joe Schmoe. I get it. Celebrities get a pass, regular people get sent to prison for life. Makes sense.

Obviously you don't get it.

Let me spell out the differences.

1. Stallworth's intoxication level was 0.12. Gallo's intoxication level was 0.19 two hours after the crash. At the time of the crash - it was probably at least 0.25.

2. In Stallworth's case, the pedestrian ran out on a highway in front of Stallworth. Gallo ran a red light.

3. Stallworth pleaded guilty even though he probably would not have been convicted due to the circumstances. Gallo was found guilty for his second time.

4. Stallworth has never been convicted for anything else. This was Gallo's second DUI conviction.

It doesn't matter that Stallworth played in the NFL, or that Gallo killed a baseball player. You just need to understand the facts.

 

[lisu]

Well Coming from someone who has lived in both Southern California and Sout6h Florida I can say this About Donte Stallworth on any given day driving across the causeway to Miami Beach anyone of has a pretty good chance of hitting someone or at least locking up the breaks due to people just randomly crossing the street. Now Factor in predawn travel and I believe The police report said the light was green (not sure?) also the fact that he was drinking those percentages for disaster went up 10 fold. And it is scary the number of people that make that same trip drunk of their A$$es.

Now When Mr. Adenhart was killed the offender was traveling at excessive speed and ran a light through an intersection and was stated before as being a previous DUI offender. That is why there are two different scenarios. In this case The "Celebrity Status" of adenhart maximized the killers penalty and the "Celebrity Status" of Stallworth saved him.

While I agree with you at the top paragraph, your last sentence I don't agree with it. Stallworth pleaded guilty. Gallo pleaded not guilty.

 

[Weatherwarrior]

Well Coming from someone who has lived in both Southern California and Sout6h Florida I can say this About Donte Stallworth on any given day driving across the causeway to Miami Beach anyone of has a pretty good chance of hitting someone or at least locking up the breaks due to people just randomly crossing the street. Now Factor in predawn travel and I believe The police report said the light was green (not sure?) also the fact that he was drinking those percentages for disaster went up 10 fold. And it is scary the number of people that make that same trip drunk of their A$$es.

Now When Mr. Adenhart was killed the offender was traveling at excessive speed and ran a light through an intersection and was stated before as being a previous DUI offender. That is why there are two different scenarios. EDITED!!!

While I agree with you at the top paragraph, your last sentence I don't agree with it. Stallworth pleaded guilty. Gallo pleaded not guilty.

Lisu Your right I was feeding my son and let my fingers ramble thanks for pointing it out!

 

[SamHell]

His intentions were that him getting drunk and having a good time was more important than three innocent lives. He got off light IMO.

 

[tommyfro21]

And Ray Lewis, Donte Stallworth, and Larry Little walk the face of the earth still to this day as free men. ::facepalm::

I think you mean Leonard Little, not Larry.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I love watching people make excuses for celebrities while leaving regular people to lie under the bus while spitting on them.

 

[morgoth]

I am pretty sure that Stallworths attorneys had something to do with his sentencing. Rich folks can afford the best representation and thus appear sometimes to get better treatment but I say its just due to the fact they can afford to spend what it takes to get the best judgement possible.

Your court appointed lawyer is not going to have the resources or time to give you the best defense possible.

 

[Krom]

I am pretty sure that Stallworths attorneys had something to do with his sentencing. Rich folks can afford the best representation and thus appear sometimes to get better treatment but I say its just due to the fact they can afford to spend what it takes to get the best judgement possible.

Your court appointed lawyer is not going to have the resources or time to give you the best defense possible.

cough cough o.j.

 

[lisu]

I love watching people make excuses for celebrities while leaving regular people to lie under the bus while spitting on them.

again - reading comprehension on your part is poor. We're not making excuses for Stallworth. He at least didn't flee the crime scene (Gallo did which added to the years of his sentence). He pleaded guilty (Gallo pleaded not guilty). He made a serious mistake in driving when he was still over the DUI limit, but his crime was not as bad as Gallo's (who ran a red light and was seriously intoxicated) and his sentence was more lenient because of that. Also, he immediately accepted responsibility, paid for his mistake (financially) and accepted his NFL punishment with no complaints. I bet you that any normal American who can afford a lawyer would have had a similar sentence given the circumstances.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I love watching people make excuses for celebrities while leaving regular people to lie under the bus while spitting on them.

again - reading comprehension on your part is poor. We're not making excuses for Stallworth. He at least didn't flee the crime scene (Gallo did which added to the years of his sentence). He pleaded guilty (Gallo pleaded not guilty). He made a serious mistake in driving when he was still over the DUI limit, but his crime was not as bad as Gallo's (who ran a red light and was seriously intoxicated) and his sentence was more lenient because of that. Also, he immediately accepted responsibility, paid for his mistake (financially) and accepted his NFL punishment with no complaints. I bet you that any normal American who can afford a lawyer would have had a similar sentence given the circumstances.

You are comparing less than a year in jail to 51-to-life for the same outcome of a crime. They both made the EXACT same error in judgment and a life and/or lives were lost. Plus you keep leaving out the many other times a celebrity has killed someone while driving drunk and gotten-off with a slap on the wrist. Yeah, there were different circumstances with these cases, but not less than year compared to 51-to-life differences. You have made excuse after excuse for Saint Stallworth and treat this other guy like he's an evil minion for doing the VERY SAME THING, DRINKING WHILE DRINKING AND KILLING SOMEONE. If Stallworth was the one who was killed by a drunk driver in the very same way, you WOULD be here crying that less than a year in prison was absurd and that he should be put-away for much longer. I would bet my collection on it.

 

[lisu]

I love watching people make excuses for celebrities while leaving regular people to lie under the bus while spitting on them.

again - reading comprehension on your part is poor. We're not making excuses for Stallworth. He at least didn't flee the crime scene (Gallo did which added to the years of his sentence). He pleaded guilty (Gallo pleaded not guilty). He made a serious mistake in driving when he was still over the DUI limit, but his crime was not as bad as Gallo's (who ran a red light and was seriously intoxicated) and his sentence was more lenient because of that. Also, he immediately accepted responsibility, paid for his mistake (financially) and accepted his NFL punishment with no complaints. I bet you that any normal American who can afford a lawyer would have had a similar sentence given the circumstances.

You are comparing less than a year in jail to 51-to-life for the same outcome of a crime. They both made the EXACT same error in judgment and a life and/or lives were lost. Plus you keep leaving out the many other times a celebrity has killed someone while driving drunk and gotten-off with a slap on the wrist. Yeah, there were different circumstances with these cases, but not less than year compared to 51-to-life differences. You have made excuse after excuse for Saint Stallworth and treat this other guy like he's an evil minion for doing the VERY SAME THING, DRINKING WHILE DRINKING AND KILLING SOMEONE. If Stallworth was the one who was killed by a drunk driver in the very same way, you WOULD be here crying that less than a year in prison was absurd and that he should be put-away for much longer. I would bet my collection on it.

It's not the same outcome. Gallo killed 3 people and put another guy into the hospital for a long time to recover for his injuries. Stallworth hit a pedestrian who may or may not have been jaywalking. Gallo was more than likely stumbling down drunk with his 0.25+ DUI and chose to drive while clearly intoxicated, while Stallworth had just woken up from drinking the night before and was just barely over the limit.

This is basic - Gallo didn't just get convicted with DUI manslaughter. He got convicted of MURDER because he has done it before. He was also convicted with felony Hit and Run. He killed 2 young people, one of who happened to be a baseball player. I would have the same opinion of him if he had killed a car full of college students. I have no interest in Stallworth except from what I have read and comprehended with my own brain.

 

[lisu]

And another side note is that Florida places blame not just on the driver but also on the pedestrian in the case of a pedestrian being struck. The pedestrian could have been equally at fault in causing his own death, and that is why Stallworth's lawyers urged him to plead not guilty.

Gallo was convicted in September of three counts of second-degree murder and single counts of drunken driving, hit-and-run driving, and driving under the influence of alcohol and causing great bodily injury.

Stallworth was pleaded guilty to a DUI and second degree manslaughter.

 

[Anthony]

Rather than having the taxpayers support this clown why can't we just put him to death? I'm in favor of that rather than letting him live on my dime. Well then again I don't live in California but given how the state is broke I would think they would be in favor of it too.

With the years and years and years of appeals and lawyers and appeals and lawyers, it is actually cheaper to have a person in jail for life rather than being executed.

 

[sportscardtheory]

And another side note is that Florida places blame not just on the driver but also on the pedestrian in the case of a pedestrian being struck. The pedestrian could have been equally at fault in causing his own death, and that is why Stallworth's lawyers urged him to plead not guilty.

Gallo was convicted in September of three counts of second-degree murder and single counts of drunken driving, hit-and-run driving, and driving under the influence of alcohol and causing great bodily injury.

Stallworth was pleaded guilty to a DUI and second degree manslaughter.

They aren't the same cases, but they aren't "less than a year" and "51-to-life different". Death happened in each case, both because of someone drinking while intoxicated. You aren't looking at things objectively, you are looking at it through "hero-worship glasses". It's a shame that ANYONE dies in these instances, but both who were convicted committed the same crime, it's the outcome that was different. The guy who killed Adenhart was a repeat offender, that is why he was treated more harshly, and that is justified. But 51-to-life is a bit extreme when the guy didn't PLAN on killing anyone. There are people who commit out-and-out pre-meditated MURDER who only get a few years. This guy got lamb-basted because he happened to kill a baseball player. Is that fair? I don't think it is. There are far worse criminals being let out of prison after only a couple years every day than some guy who's drinking problem ended-up killing three people and he ran-away scared.

 

[lisu]

And another side note is that Florida places blame not just on the driver but also on the pedestrian in the case of a pedestrian being struck. The pedestrian could have been equally at fault in causing his own death, and that is why Stallworth's lawyers urged him to plead not guilty.

Gallo was convicted in September of three counts of second-degree murder and single counts of drunken driving, hit-and-run driving, and driving under the influence of alcohol and causing great bodily injury.

Stallworth was pleaded guilty to a DUI and second degree manslaughter.

They aren't the same cases, but they aren't "less than a year" and "51-to-life different". Death happened in each case, both because of someone drinking while intoxicated. You aren't looking at things objectively, you are looking at it through "hero-worship glasses". It's a shame that ANYONE dies in these instances, but both who were convicted committed the same crime, it's the outcome that was different. The guy who killed Adenhart was a repeat offender, that is why he was treated more harshly, and that is justified. But 51-to-life is a bit extreme when the guy didn't PLAN on killing anyone. There are people who commit out-and-out pre-meditated MURDER who only get a few years. This guy got lamb-basted because he happened to kill a baseball player. Is that fair? I don't think it is. There are far worse criminals being let out of prison after only a couple years every day than some guy who's drinking problem ended-up killing three people and he ran-away scared.

Yes, unfortunately, they are in the legal world. Being convicted of about 6 felonies will always carry a lot more in sentencing. If you plead guilty to a lesser crime, like Stallworth did, then you will also be convicted of less for a first offense and showing remorse. The guy didn't PLAN on killing anyone, but he only drunk himself into a stupor and ran away from the crime scene, and he DID it in California where DUI charges become MURDER charges when it's a second DUI. I already stated the differences between states, but you obviously can't understand them. It's completely fair when he killed 3 young people. He might not have intended to kill anyone when he went out, but once he started drinking and didn't have a designated driver and decided to drive then he will get the book thrown at him. If Gallo killed 3 people while driving drunk on a suspended license, who's to say he won't do it again in the future? This is justice.

 

[jcmint]

Rather than having the taxpayers support this clown why can't we just put him to death? I'm in favor of that rather than letting him live on my dime. Well then again I don't live in California but given how the state is broke I would think they would be in favor of it too.

There are far worse people who have done far worse things with life sentences that you can say this about. A guy that drank and didn't intentionally kill anyone is a major reach. I find it funny how people get so up-in-arms when it's a "celebrity" who is the victim. Where are you when celebrities get away with crimes because they have money? I didn't see you calling for Donte Stallworth to be executed when he drove drunk and killed someone with his car.

I wonder how you would feel if that was your brother who died. I have lost an immediate family member to a multiple convicted drunk driver who could careless about what she did. it make make you feel different.

 

[lisu]

The sad thing is Gallo probably won't serve 51 years. He'll probably be out in 15-20 on good behavior. The 3 people he "unintentionally" killed are gone forever.

 

[TwinGnats]

As someone who has had his face rearranged by a drunk driver you are not correct in this instance. There is a difference (morally) between someone who is over the limit barely and one that is significantly over the limit. Someone that is slightly over the limit who has misjudged their level of intoxication who kills someone should be treated differently from someone who was significantly drunk who could not make any case to being unsure of their level of intoxication who kills someone.

The second instance is someone that cannot dispute that they didn't know their actions would have a high likelihood of killing someone, this should be considered premeditated murder. Also those who are caught at this limit should be charged with attempted murder as well.

Those who are slightly over the limit have no expectations that their actions would have a high instance of killing someone therefore it should be treated as a level above accidential.

Our state governments really have screwed up horribly where we put people in jail for .08 (and it's only .08 because the federal government withholds gas tax revenue to force states to comply) but at the same time, someone who has an absolute willfull disregard for the safety of others don't get a life sentences or the needle.

I don't profess to know what the limits should be, but we need to make all of our penalties monatary (at the low end) and once we figure out at what point there is a level of drunkiness that becomes truly criminal we need to hit those people as hard as possible, which includes the death penalty.

Disclaimer: I don't drink in general, I've had less than 10 drinks in the 12 years I've been able to drink. My stance on the lower end isn't self serving as I have never driven even after one drink in my life.

I love watching people make excuses for celebrities while leaving regular people to lie under the bus while spitting on them.

again - reading comprehension on your part is poor. We're not making excuses for Stallworth. He at least didn't flee the crime scene (Gallo did which added to the years of his sentence). He pleaded guilty (Gallo pleaded not guilty). He made a serious mistake in driving when he was still over the DUI limit, but his crime was not as bad as Gallo's (who ran a red light and was seriously intoxicated) and his sentence was more lenient because of that. Also, he immediately accepted responsibility, paid for his mistake (financially) and accepted his NFL punishment with no complaints. I bet you that any normal American who can afford a lawyer would have had a similar sentence given the circumstances.

You are comparing less than a year in jail to 51-to-life for the same outcome of a crime. They both made the EXACT same error in judgment and a life and/or lives were lost. Plus you keep leaving out the many other times a celebrity has killed someone while driving drunk and gotten-off with a slap on the wrist. Yeah, there were different circumstances with these cases, but not less than year compared to 51-to-life differences. You have made excuse after excuse for Saint Stallworth and treat this other guy like he's an evil minion for doing the VERY SAME THING, DRINKING WHILE DRINKING AND KILLING SOMEONE. If Stallworth was the one who was killed by a drunk driver in the very same way, you WOULD be here crying that less than a year in prison was absurd and that he should be put-away for much longer. I would bet my collection on it.

 

[sportscardtheory]

Rather than having the taxpayers support this clown why can't we just put him to death? I'm in favor of that rather than letting him live on my dime. Well then again I don't live in California but given how the state is broke I would think they would be in favor of it too.

There are far worse people who have done far worse things with life sentences that you can say this about. A guy that drank and didn't intentionally kill anyone is a major reach. I find it funny how people get so up-in-arms when it's a "celebrity" who is the victim. Where are you when celebrities get away with crimes because they have money? I didn't see you calling for Donte Stallworth to be executed when he drove drunk and killed someone with his car.

I wonder how you would feel if that was your brother who died. I have lost an immediate family member to a multiple convicted drunk driver who could careless about what she did. it make make you feel different.

100% honesty, if someone in my family died due to a drunken driver's negligence, I would feel bad for EVERYONE involved. My family, the driver and their family. You say that she "could careless", what does that mean? How the heck would you know if she wasn't remorseful? That sounds strange. Drunken drivers aren't murderers, they are careless and stupid people who make stupid mistakes. Murderers are murderers.