And Twins! (The Twins talk and pick-up thread).

[nikateen]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":2dpuremw]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":2dpuremw]

Morneau and Span with 2 run homers tonight, NICE!

Delmon sitting again...

As much as I want Delmon to be a star here, it is the right call at the moment.

Craig

I totally disagree. Cuddy should be the one sitting. I don't care about his contract, he is the worst of the 5 OF's.

You keep saying that, but what is your basis for your claim?

Craig

How do you expect some one like Delmon to develop if they keep yanking him in and out of the lineup? His ceiling is much higher than Cuddys. Cuddy was brutal last year before he got hurt and has been brutal so far this year.[/quote:2dpuremw]

How does Delmon's development being hindered equal Cuddy being "the worst of the 5 OF?"

As for Cuddy being brutal, prior to Casilla in the 9th yesterday he was the only guy getting hits with runners in scoring position, and did you see Delmon hit yesterday? Plus Cuddy is a far better defensive outfielder than Delmon is.

I think you've listened to too much KFAN (really any time is to much KFAN, though).

Craig[/quote:2dpuremw]

Who do you think Cuddyer is better then in the OF? Certainly not Span or Delmon. Gomez has terrible plate discipline, but is one of the best defensive CF's in baseball so you have him out there.

 

[darkman]

one heck of a pick off play

 

[nikateen]

Just as I suspected, Cuddy is in for a return to 07 form this year (so far). All you people who bought into the Span hype and claimed the Twins needed to trade Cuddy, please remember who you are.

:lol:

Flight, I have owned you so many times talking Twins you're just bitter.Your attitude really gets old.

 

[flightposite]

Just as I suspected, Cuddy is in for a return to 07 form this year (so far). All you people who bought into the Span hype and claimed the Twins needed to trade Cuddy, please remember who you are.

:lol:

Flight, I have owned you so many times talking Twins you're just bitter. Your attitude really gets old.

Lol. Yeah, you've owned me, can't think of one smart thing you've ever said.

 

[Greg Cleveland]

one heck of a pick off play

Hey! No Mariners fans allowed!

Even if it was a good play. :evil:

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":3kbzepd0]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":3kbzepd0]

Morneau and Span with 2 run homers tonight, NICE!

Delmon sitting again...

As much as I want Delmon to be a star here, it is the right call at the moment.

Craig

I totally disagree. Cuddy should be the one sitting. I don't care about his contract, he is the worst of the 5 OF's.

You keep saying that, but what is your basis for your claim?

Craig

How do you expect some one like Delmon to develop if they keep yanking him in and out of the lineup? His ceiling is much higher than Cuddys. Cuddy was brutal last year before he got hurt and has been brutal so far this year.

How does Delmon's development being hindered equal Cuddy being "the worst of the 5 OF?"

As for Cuddy being brutal, prior to Casilla in the 9th yesterday he was the only guy getting hits with runners in scoring position, and did you see Delmon hit yesterday? Plus Cuddy is a far better defensive outfielder than Delmon is.

I think you've listened to too much KFAN (really any time is to much KFAN, though).

Craig[/quote:3kbzepd0]

Who do you think Cuddyer is better then in the OF? Certainly not Span or Delmon. Gomez has terrible plate discipline, but is one of the best defensive CF's in baseball so you have him out there.[/quote:3kbzepd0]

I ask again. In what way is Delmon a better outfielder than Cuddyer? You haven't provided a single factual basis to support your argument, and the stats certainly don't agree with you.

Craig

 

[nikateen]

Just as I suspected, Cuddy is in for a return to 07 form this year (so far). All you people who bought into the Span hype and claimed the Twins needed to trade Cuddy, please remember who you are.

:lol:

Flight, I have owned you so many times talking Twins you're just bitter. Your attitude really gets old.

Lol. Yeah, you've owned me, can't think of one smart thing you've ever said.

I wish FCB didn't delete some old posts. I remember putting you in your place regarding Pohlad and finances. Funny how you never showed up after I gave you the facts.

 

[nikateen]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":28jewuql]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":28jewuql]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":28jewuql]

Morneau and Span with 2 run homers tonight, NICE!

Delmon sitting again...

As much as I want Delmon to be a star here, it is the right call at the moment.

Craig

I totally disagree. Cuddy should be the one sitting. I don't care about his contract, he is the worst of the 5 OF's.

You keep saying that, but what is your basis for your claim?

Craig

How do you expect some one like Delmon to develop if they keep yanking him in and out of the lineup? His ceiling is much higher than Cuddys. Cuddy was brutal last year before he got hurt and has been brutal so far this year.

How does Delmon's development being hindered equal Cuddy being "the worst of the 5 OF?"

As for Cuddy being brutal, prior to Casilla in the 9th yesterday he was the only guy getting hits with runners in scoring position, and did you see Delmon hit yesterday? Plus Cuddy is a far better defensive outfielder than Delmon is.

I think you've listened to too much KFAN (really any time is to much KFAN, though).

Craig[/quote:28jewuql]

Who do you think Cuddyer is better then in the OF? Certainly not Span or Delmon. Gomez has terrible plate discipline, but is one of the best defensive CF's in baseball so you have him out there.[/quote:28jewuql]

I ask again. In what way is Delmon a better outfielder than Cuddyer? You haven't provided a single factual basis to support your argument, and the stats certainly don't agree with you.

Craig[/quote:28jewuql]
They don't?
Delmon's OPS last season at age 22 .741
Cuddy's OPS last season at age 29 .699

You're right though. Delmon deserves to sit and rot on the bench.

 

[Greg Cleveland]

.42 point difference? Big deal. If it was .150 or more, then you have a case. That's not enough to make a fuss about.

 

[nikateen]

.42 point difference? Big deal. If it was .150 or more, then you have a case. That's not enough to make a fuss about.

Delmon was 22 years old. How do you expect Delmon to develop if he isn't out there playing every day?

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":hrhtxs6n]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":hrhtxs6n]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":hrhtxs6n][quote="flightposite":hrhtxs6n]Morneau and Span with 2 run homers tonight, NICE!

Delmon sitting again...

As much as I want Delmon to be a star here, it is the right call at the moment.

Craig

I totally disagree. Cuddy should be the one sitting. I don't care about his contract, he is the worst of the 5 OF's.

You keep saying that, but what is your basis for your claim?

Craig

How do you expect some one like Delmon to develop if they keep yanking him in and out of the lineup? His ceiling is much higher than Cuddys. Cuddy was brutal last year before he got hurt and has been brutal so far this year.

How does Delmon's development being hindered equal Cuddy being "the worst of the 5 OF?"

As for Cuddy being brutal, prior to Casilla in the 9th yesterday he was the only guy getting hits with runners in scoring position, and did you see Delmon hit yesterday? Plus Cuddy is a far better defensive outfielder than Delmon is.

I think you've listened to too much KFAN (really any time is to much KFAN, though).

Craig[/quote:hrhtxs6n]

Who do you think Cuddyer is better then in the OF? Certainly not Span or Delmon. Gomez has terrible plate discipline, but is one of the best defensive CF's in baseball so you have him out there.[/quote:hrhtxs6n]

I ask again. In what way is Delmon a better outfielder than Cuddyer? You haven't provided a single factual basis to support your argument, and the stats certainly don't agree with you.

Craig[/quote:hrhtxs6n]
They don't?
Delmon's OPS last season at age 22 .741
Cuddy's OPS last season at age 29 .699

You're right though. Delmon deserves to sit and rot on the bench.[/quote:hrhtxs6n]

Clearly the only numbers that matter are the two guys OPS last year when one of them missed nearly 100 games and when he came back he wasn't anywhere close to 100%.

Flight is right, arguing with you is pointless because facts don't matter when you've already made up your mind.

Craig

 

[nikateen]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":2v9owjeh]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":2v9owjeh]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":2v9owjeh]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":2v9owjeh][quote="flightposite":2v9owjeh]Morneau and Span with 2 run homers tonight, NICE!

Delmon sitting again...

As much as I want Delmon to be a star here, it is the right call at the moment.

Craig

I totally disagree. Cuddy should be the one sitting. I don't care about his contract, he is the worst of the 5 OF's.

You keep saying that, but what is your basis for your claim?

Craig

How do you expect some one like Delmon to develop if they keep yanking him in and out of the lineup? His ceiling is much higher than Cuddys. Cuddy was brutal last year before he got hurt and has been brutal so far this year.

How does Delmon's development being hindered equal Cuddy being "the worst of the 5 OF?"

As for Cuddy being brutal, prior to Casilla in the 9th yesterday he was the only guy getting hits with runners in scoring position, and did you see Delmon hit yesterday? Plus Cuddy is a far better defensive outfielder than Delmon is.

I think you've listened to too much KFAN (really any time is to much KFAN, though).

Craig[/quote:2v9owjeh]

Who do you think Cuddyer is better then in the OF? Certainly not Span or Delmon. Gomez has terrible plate discipline, but is one of the best defensive CF's in baseball so you have him out there.[/quote:2v9owjeh]

I ask again. In what way is Delmon a better outfielder than Cuddyer? You haven't provided a single factual basis to support your argument, and the stats certainly don't agree with you.

Craig[/quote:2v9owjeh]
They don't?
Delmon's OPS last season at age 22 .741
Cuddy's OPS last season at age 29 .699

You're right though. Delmon deserves to sit and rot on the bench.[/quote:2v9owjeh]

Clearly the only numbers that matter are the two guys OPS last year when one of them missed nearly 100 games and when he came back he wasn't anywhere close to 100%.

Flight is right, arguing with you is pointless because facts don't matter when you've already made up your mind.

Craig[/quote:2v9owjeh]

Cuddy's OPS was barely higher than Delmons at age 28 when he was healthy for an entire 2007.

I will ask you the question again, how do you expect Delmon to develop if he isn't playing everyday?

 

[flightposite]

LOL, yeah, you killed me on the pohlad thing, I know nothing about the twins. You are a good arguing, you say what you think, don't look at the other sides argument, then yell yours louder. If you not really a twins fan why muck up our thread.

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":85suwj2v]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":85suwj2v]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":85suwj2v][quote="nikateen":85suwj2v][quote="Craig - 21hawk":85suwj2v][quote="flightposite":85suwj2v]Morneau and Span with 2 run homers tonight, NICE!

Delmon sitting again...

As much as I want Delmon to be a star here, it is the right call at the moment.

Craig

I totally disagree. Cuddy should be the one sitting. I don't care about his contract, he is the worst of the 5 OF's.

You keep saying that, but what is your basis for your claim?

Craig

How do you expect some one like Delmon to develop if they keep yanking him in and out of the lineup? His ceiling is much higher than Cuddys. Cuddy was brutal last year before he got hurt and has been brutal so far this year.

How does Delmon's development being hindered equal Cuddy being "the worst of the 5 OF?"

As for Cuddy being brutal, prior to Casilla in the 9th yesterday he was the only guy getting hits with runners in scoring position, and did you see Delmon hit yesterday? Plus Cuddy is a far better defensive outfielder than Delmon is.

I think you've listened to too much KFAN (really any time is to much KFAN, though).

Craig[/quote:85suwj2v]

Who do you think Cuddyer is better then in the OF? Certainly not Span or Delmon. Gomez has terrible plate discipline, but is one of the best defensive CF's in baseball so you have him out there.[/quote:85suwj2v]

I ask again. In what way is Delmon a better outfielder than Cuddyer? You haven't provided a single factual basis to support your argument, and the stats certainly don't agree with you.

Craig[/quote:85suwj2v]
They don't?
Delmon's OPS last season at age 22 .741
Cuddy's OPS last season at age 29 .699

You're right though. Delmon deserves to sit and rot on the bench.[/quote:85suwj2v]

Clearly the only numbers that matter are the two guys OPS last year when one of them missed nearly 100 games and when he came back he wasn't anywhere close to 100%.

Flight is right, arguing with you is pointless because facts don't matter when you've already made up your mind.

Craig[/quote:85suwj2v]

Cuddy's OPS was barely higher than Delmons at age 28 when he was healthy for an entire 2007.

I will ask you the question again, how do you expect Delmon to develop if he isn't playing everyday?[/quote:85suwj2v]

He won't, but Cuddyer gives them the best chance to win now, and winning now is kind of the point. If you are always just developing players you never win.

Have you actually watched the Twins, or do you solely get your info from the Twins message board, Star Tribune posts, and the Neshek boards?

Now I'm done with this discussion, because there is no point in going further.

Craig

 

[nikateen]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":1kqbtofq]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":1kqbtofq]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":1kqbtofq]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":1kqbtofq][quote="nikateen":1kqbtofq][quote="Craig - 21hawk":1kqbtofq][quote="flightposite":1kqbtofq]Morneau and Span with 2 run homers tonight, NICE!

Delmon sitting again...

As much as I want Delmon to be a star here, it is the right call at the moment.

Craig

I totally disagree. Cuddy should be the one sitting. I don't care about his contract, he is the worst of the 5 OF's.

You keep saying that, but what is your basis for your claim?

Craig

How do you expect some one like Delmon to develop if they keep yanking him in and out of the lineup? His ceiling is much higher than Cuddys. Cuddy was brutal last year before he got hurt and has been brutal so far this year.

How does Delmon's development being hindered equal Cuddy being "the worst of the 5 OF?"

As for Cuddy being brutal, prior to Casilla in the 9th yesterday he was the only guy getting hits with runners in scoring position, and did you see Delmon hit yesterday? Plus Cuddy is a far better defensive outfielder than Delmon is.

I think you've listened to too much KFAN (really any time is to much KFAN, though).

Craig[/quote:1kqbtofq]

Who do you think Cuddyer is better then in the OF? Certainly not Span or Delmon. Gomez has terrible plate discipline, but is one of the best defensive CF's in baseball so you have him out there.[/quote:1kqbtofq]

I ask again. In what way is Delmon a better outfielder than Cuddyer? You haven't provided a single factual basis to support your argument, and the stats certainly don't agree with you.

Craig[/quote:1kqbtofq]
They don't?
Delmon's OPS last season at age 22 .741
Cuddy's OPS last season at age 29 .699

You're right though. Delmon deserves to sit and rot on the bench.[/quote:1kqbtofq]

Clearly the only numbers that matter are the two guys OPS last year when one of them missed nearly 100 games and when he came back he wasn't anywhere close to 100%.

Flight is right, arguing with you is pointless because facts don't matter when you've already made up your mind.

Craig[/quote:1kqbtofq]

Cuddy's OPS was barely higher than Delmons at age 28 when he was healthy for an entire 2007.

I will ask you the question again, how do you expect Delmon to develop if he isn't playing everyday?[/quote:1kqbtofq]

He won't, but Cuddyer gives them the best chance to win now, and winning now is kind of the point. If you are always just developing players you never win.

Have you actually watched the Twins, or do you solely get your info from the Twins message board, Star Tribune posts, and the Neshek boards?

Now I'm done with this discussion, because there is no point in going further.

Craig[/quote:1kqbtofq]

This is where we disagree so there is no point in arguing. Time will tell. And I live in Minnesota, I watch every game...

 

[nikateen]

LOL, yeah, you killed me on the pohlad thing, I know nothing about the twins. You are a good arguing, you say what you think, don't look at the other sides argument, then yell yours louder. If you not really a twins fan why muck up our thread.

Because I don't agree with you, I am not a Twins fan? Ok...

 

[bigalbert]

I pulled these from a box of Prime Cuts-
Carew/3 and Killebrew/10
These are always up for grabs.

 

[flightposite]

LOL, yeah, you killed me on the pohlad thing, I know nothing about the twins. You are a good arguing, you say what you think, don't look at the other sides argument, then yell yours louder. If you not really a twins fan why muck up our thread.

Because I don't agree with you, I am not a Twins fan?

You never have anything positive to say. I wouldn't call someone who only has negative things to say, a fan.

 

[nikateen]

I am very positive about the Twins and love our team. I would just like to see all the young guys play. My stance is that Delmon will never develop on this team if he isn't given the opportunity to play everyday. That is all.

Heres to a good season and nice 2-1 start!

 

[matchpenalty]

The patches on this years jerseys are about as good as it gets. So the game balls at the Dome this year have the finals season logo on them? How soon do they start showing up in the pros shops.