Another Plain White Envelope shipper...

[tonsofcommons]

I don't think it is a matter of "growing up".

This "argument" will ALWAYS be on here. There isn't a week that goes by where someone has received a card in PWE for an amount that seems high.

Whether you are a buyer or a seller, you are going to have a different opinion.

All the OP was trying to do was to warn others, and maybe vent a little. I see no harm in that.

I think a little empathy for everyone (Buyers and Sellers) would go a long way.

Don't bust the OPs balls for feeling cheated. That is his right and just because you don't agree doesn't mean you have to talk down to him.

I would be upset though if it doesn't state it in the auction that it is PWE.

 

[predatorkj]

Would you have paid more to gaurantee a bubble mailer?

Its very obvious you dont get the point.. It does not matter what it was shipped in/or even how much was charged for shipping(as I have been charged more $$ and still been happy)...

The point is he charged 5 TIMES what he paid to have it shipped..

Also knowing many people here can not stand PWEs I figured I would let them know of another seller that sends in them..

No matter what you say it wont matter, some people feel the need to charge for gas the to the post office even though they can print it 5 feet away from where the transaction took place but then again the ink and paper would cost millions. But you are responsible for this of course, that and the and ham sandwich on the way to drop off your package when they could leave it in a drop off box or most of the time in their own mail box outside the house.

I add for the beer I'm drinking on the way and the 6 I'm going to pick-up while I'm out. :lol:

Dude...are you nuts?You're not supposed to be drinking and driving!Jeez.Don't you get it?You're supposed to drink and then drive!God...what is it with people not knowing how to break the law properly these days...
:mrgreen:


Seriously...lets just end it.I understand the frustration of the OP.I do.But we all know these people(by these people I mean ebay sellers) are usually out to make something on every shipping charge.And I seriously doubt anyone here who sells doesn't do it.If you charge even $2.50 and ship in a bubble mailer you still make something out of it.

Its probably not going to stop either.Best thing to do is bust his balls on feedback where the star ratings are.Also might want to mention it in feedback.But be fair and don't leave a neg or a neutral.He did after all get the card to you in the specified shape.Can't leave a neg or neutral for that unless he was a major dick to you in the process which ,by what you have posted thus far, it does not seem to be the case.

 

[i43770]

In reality pwe's save sellers money and therefore cheaper prices for buyers.

If I buy a card from Seller A and Seller B, pay the same for the card and same for shipping, but one sends in a PWE compared to a bubble mailer, how did I save any money?

grow up. you paid for the card to be delivered to you via mail. if he sent it via first class (or whatever was advertised) he has done his part. the end. there is nothing to debate. plus, he can count whatever he wants as a handling charge.

But the seller didn't do his part. eBay requires you accept Paypal, Paypal requires that you have proof of delivery. So the seller didn't do their part of the transaction, because they can't prove it was shipped and/or delivered.

 

[predatorkj]

In reality pwe's save sellers money and therefore cheaper prices for buyers.

If I buy a card from Seller A and Seller B, pay the same for the card and same for shipping, but one sends in a PWE compared to a bubble mailer, how did I save any money?

grow up. you paid for the card to be delivered to you via mail. if he sent it via first class (or whatever was advertised) he has done his part. the end. there is nothing to debate. plus, he can count whatever he wants as a handling charge.

But the seller didn't do his part. eBay requires you accept Paypal, Paypal requires that you have proof of delivery. So the seller didn't do their part of the transaction, because they can't prove it was shipped and/or delivered.

Really...I had no idea they required you have proof of delivery.I get bubble mailers without DC all the time.

 

[zach]

This thread is great.

It was a long day and I needed a good laugh....especially the Bingo pic!

 

[matfanofold]

Since everyone else is chiming in, I'll follow suit...


I absolutely agree with the op! I would be slightly ticked if I paid $2.50 for a card to arrive in a PWE and a $0.42 cent stamp. However, my frustration(s) would be short lived. I would be happy the card came in good condition and probablly not buy from that seller again because I dislike PWE's and overpaying on shipping. However............

I do NOT feel it's something to rant about and call someone out on in a public forum like here. Sure it's something i personally would have disliked, but the seller did deliver as described and made no false promises. He lived up to his end of the sale, and should not have to be slandered as such.

Again, personally, I may have have been erked at the pwe and shipping costs(after seeing the pwe), but it would boil down to personal opinion. And to complain about recieving a card in 'as described' condition because you are unhappy with shipping costs (after the fact), despite getting what you paid for, is fruitless in my humble opinion.

I dislike pwe's, but if the card shows up in good condition, does it really matter then?

I dislike over paying for shipping, but if I pay for the auction I won(including shipping), does it matter how it arrives as long as it's in good condition??

The facts here are undisputable.

1. You bought the card including shipping with the premis that it would be delivered in a timely manor and in good condition. At this point you are happy with the purchace.

2. You actually recieved the card(presumably in a timely manor) and in good condition.

So why all the fuss??

 

[zach]

Since everyone else is chiming in, I'll follow suit...


I absolutely agree with the op! I would be slightly ticked if I paid $2.50 for a card to arrive in a PWE and a $0.42 cent stamp. However, my frustration(s) would be short lived. I would be happy the card came in good condition and probablly not buy from that seller again because I dislike PWE's and overpaying on shipping. However............

I might be able to agree. However, in this case (if i understand this correctly) the OP is upset with the fact that the seller made 500% profit on shipping and not really the fact that the card was delivered in a PWE. He's not even annoyed at the fact of it being $2.08 profit...but more that it was 500% profit.

 

[Jays_Cards]

I do not know where everyone is getting their shipping costs from, but not considering the drive to the PO and strictly focusing on actual shipping costs, I am over $3 on every package I sell..

Bubble Mailer - $.80
First Class - ~$1.25
Delivery Confirmation - $.80
Team Bag, Top Loader, PS - $.20

I usually charge $3.50 for shipping (granted that I sell higher end cards) and I do not think I make anything. I have charged upwards of $40 to ship before, but damn, insurance and priority on $5000 is expensive.

 

[ChasHawk]

I do not know where everyone is getting their shipping costs from, but not considering the drive to the PO and strictly focusing on actual shipping costs, I am over $3 on every package I sell..

Bubble Mailer - $.80
First Class - ~$1.25
Delivery Confirmation - $.80
Team Bag, Top Loader, PS - $.20

I usually charge $3.50 for shipping (granted that I sell higher end cards) and I do not think I make anything. I have charged upwards of $40 to ship before, but damn, insurance and priority on $5000 is expensive.

1.25
.80
.80
+.20
$3.05

So actually, you are making 45 cents :lol:

Btw - you are waayy overpaying for mailers. I get a pack of 10 Duck brand 000s at Wal-Mart for $4.44

 

[abeabe]

In my opinion $3.99 should be the max shipping charge of a single card in top loader and bubble mailer with DC.

 

[glewis22]

I don't understand the problem? The card is ok, right?

The problem is people trying to make money off of Shipping charges.. Ebay has a policy about over charging shipping fees. Charging 5Xs what it costs to actually ship the item so he/she can pocket the extra is against Ebays rules and it is just wrong to do..

Maybe you dont see an issue with that (and thats your opinion) I do have a problem with it and I know may others on here do to ( and thats our opinion)....

Dude, wth, its people like you who irk the ever loving crap outta me (and countless others).

You see a card ....................you see the price for shipping it to you..................you add both numbers.............its a number you can live with......................you buy the card.................it gets delivered to you..................THAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO CONCERN YOURSELF WITH!~@@##@!@#$@!!!$^&*((&&*(

Would it make you feel better if you did all the above and saw $4.29 on the label - the number on the label is irrelevant. You as a buyer have no business complaining about how an item gets to you or how much a person pays for shipping - its their business, not yours. Your business is deciding whether your OK with the bottom line - the purchase of the card and the cost of shipping combined. THATS IT! END OF STORY

You dont get to say "OK, I like the total price here"- pay, then bitch because you think the seller paid less for shipping then you thought he should, seriously, like WTH?

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

I got one today also. I purchased unused Full Season ticket from a game last year between the marlins and phillies. It was 15 bucks plus a 2 dollars shipping. Well it was packaged in a white envelope without any kind of protection besides 2 horribly cut pieces of cardboard.

Why am i so peeved? Well lucky for me it didnt get damaged because it was from Mike Stantons MLB debut. Im going to have him sign it in 22 days at marlins spring training autograph reception.

 

[ChasHawk]

Holy necro-thread, Batman!

Btw - $3.99 for a single card is robbery

 

[shayscards79]

Ebay ID: curtis68

Says he has always shipped in Plain White Envelope for anything sold under $5 for the last 9 years even though he charges $2.50 for shipping.

How about buying a Julio Teheran chrome auto and having it shipped from Taiwan in a white envelope?

Happened to me this summer, luckily it arrive okay, still gave him good feedback.

 

[autorook]

Why do people still send in envelopes? Walmart sells bubble mailers 10 piece for like a few dollars. Shipping is under $2 if its just 5 cards or less usually.

 

[abeabe]

I picked up a GU/AUTO of a HOFer for cheap because shipping was $5. The least you'd expect with such a nice card and such a hefty shipping fee, would be a bubble mailer and maybe a DC. It came in a PWE, I demanded half my shipping fee be reunded or I would leave negative DSR feedback, after some complaining about how cheap I got card for. I explained 1 thing had nothing to do with the other, don't list $5 shipping on 1 card, maybe you'd get more bids. So he planned to make it up by charging me $5 for an envelope, top loader and .44 stamp. Such shady business practice. I understand making an extra $1 on shipping, but $4.50 and not making sure card arrived in safe condition by giving it no protection other then top loader. I was refunded the $2.50 minus paypal fees, but obviously he is on my sellers not to buy from list.

 

[CollectorsCorner]

I do not know where everyone is getting their shipping costs from, but not considering the drive to the PO and strictly focusing on actual shipping costs, I am over $3 on every package I sell..

Bubble Mailer - $.80
First Class - ~$1.25
Delivery Confirmation - $.80
Team Bag, Top Loader, PS - $.20

I usually charge $3.50 for shipping (granted that I sell higher end cards) and I do not think I make anything. I have charged upwards of $40 to ship before, but damn, insurance and priority on $5000 is expensive.

1.25
.80
.80
+.20
$3.05

So actually, you are making 45 cents :lol:

Btw - you are waayy overpaying for mailers. I get a pack of 10 Duck brand 000s at Wal-Mart for $4.44

Yikes I pay 10 cents or less per envelope/ 1.58 for first class with dc probably about the same for supplies. But I offer free shipping on Ebay

 

[Huffamaniac]

I bought a card late last week for $12.00 plus $1 shipping and handling. It came in a PWE envelope and I was not surprised. The seller is taking the risk doing this. It could get damaged or since it did not DC on it I could claim I never received it. As a buyer if it is damaged i get my money back.. It is the seller that has everything to risk. I personally never mail out in PWE, but have no issue receiving them no matter how much i spend for shipping as it is the seller taking the risk and the sahipping cost is already built in when i determine how much I am willing to spend on the card.

 

[markakis8]

Some people drink warm milk, some watch Letterman/Leno, some read their Kindles....I read your posts to fall asleep at night

Just do what I do...gladly accept the pwe.Once one arrives that is all screwed up...nail their ass to the wall with it.I get a lot of stuff in pwe's and the only cards I had screwed up came from sportlots.I doubt very seriously they would have made it okay anyways because the idiots that sent them sent them with no toploaders.One guy even said he had never seen toploaders big enough to fit the cards in question(UD glass basketball).That's funny because I sure as hell had some toploaders for them to fit in as soon as they arrived.

In any case...you know that every single guy who ships on ebay makes something off the shipping.The only person I know of who didn't was a guy who just sent me a Frank Thomas card I won for $1.75.It was free shipping.Well it came today in a bubble mailer and the price of postage paid was $1.58.That means he made no money on shipping and all of 17 cents on a diecut Thomas card that was serial numbered to boot.I actually felt bad.But these people who ship in bubble mailers make twice their money every time.Anybody who charges $3 for a card that is not insured does so.

I have said before...if you take into account what it actually costs to mail something out...it isn't cheap.You have to go buy stamps and envelopes and it takes gas and time.Plus chances are there are several cards, maybe a whole lot, that the guy is selling and he has to look for each and every one and get the proper address on the proper package and make darn sure you get the right card.Now if you guys don't want to factor that in that is fine but stop getting upset.This is freaking ridiculous.I would be a little pissed off if I got charged $5 on something shipped in a pwe but $2.50 isn't that bad.What you guys are insinuating is that a seller's time is worth nothing at all.People charge for their time.I am damn sure none of you are working every single second while you are at work but they pay you for the whole time you are there.Would you like them to only pay you for the time you are actually slaving away at whatever job it is you do?Probably not.Why is this any different?

 

[bowmanchromeandorr]

i agree with a lot of the posters here. if i pay $5 for shipping there is a certain level of quality you should expect. if i pay $1 for shipping I should expect to get a PWE with a 44 cent stamp on it. if it is the $1 situation i would leave 5 stars because i got what i paid for. if i got a PWE and paid $5 for shipping I would leave appropriate DSRs. if shipping is free then you are screwed if some F**knut sends a PWE and inside is a $500 card with no toploader, no DC and No insurance.