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sportscardtheory said:I think the point is, if you are charged a sales tax, then you obviously bought from a business, no? So can't that "business" use what we are talking about as tax write-offs? You can't force someone to charge sales tax and not reimburse them through the tax system... it's the basics of taxation on businesses. I am certainly no professional, so I could be way off.
Craig - 21hawk said:sportscardtheory said:I think the point is, if you are charged a sales tax, then you obviously bought from a business, no? So can't that "business" use what we are talking about as tax write-offs? You can't force someone to charge sales tax and not reimburse them through the tax system... it's the basics of taxation on businesses. I am certainly no professional, so I could be way off.
Reimburse them for what? Sales tax is added on and is not costing a seller anything. They are simply collecting it and passing it on to the government.
You can't write off something to make up for sales tax. That is what Chad is referring to when comparing apples to oranges.
Craig
sportscardtheory said:I think the point is, if you are charged a sales tax, then you obviously bought from a business, no? So can't that "business" use what we are talking about as tax write-offs? You can't force someone to charge sales tax and not reimburse them through the tax system... it's the basics of taxation on businesses. I am certainly no professional, so I could be way off.
ccouch (Chad) said:sportscardtheory said:I think the point is, if you are charged a sales tax, then you obviously bought from a business, no? So can't that "business" use what we are talking about as tax write-offs? You can't force someone to charge sales tax and not reimburse them through the tax system... it's the basics of taxation on businesses. I am certainly no professional, so I could be way off.
Vendors who collect sales taxes are already whole. They aren't paying the tax. All they are doing is collecting is from the end user of the product and then remitting it to the state.
People keep bringing up "write-offs", or deductions. Deductions are an income tax concept. Deductions have NOTHING to do with a determination of sales and/or use tax liability. Sales and use tax regimes and income tax regimes operate independently of one another.
sportscardtheory said:Are not sales part of your income???
ccouch (Chad) said:sportscardtheory said:Are not sales part of your income???
Sure they are. But the part of it that represents sales tax that you are collecting is not part of your income.
You sell a product for $1.00 plus a 5% sales tax. So you collect $1.05. $1.00 is gross sales, and five cents is payable to the government.
sportscardtheory said:Wait a minute. How can they require a person who doesn't own a business to charge a sales tax?
Do you think every business gets handouts from the government?sportscardtheory said:But since it is a sale, doesn't it make that part of your income, thus allowing tax-write offs? I guess my point is, if the government is going to treat a seller as a business that charges sales tax, can't that seller in turn accept money from the government as a business? I'm only asking to become more knowledgeable, not to be difficult.![]()
200lbhockeyplayer said:Do you think every business gets handouts from the government?sportscardtheory said:But since it is a sale, doesn't it make that part of your income, thus allowing tax-write offs? I guess my point is, if the government is going to treat a seller as a business that charges sales tax, can't that seller in turn accept money from the government as a business? I'm only asking to become more knowledgeable, not to be difficult.![]()
And what is this business money tree that the government is allowing businesses to just "accept"?
sportscardtheory said:200lbhockeyplayer said:Do you think every business gets handouts from the government?sportscardtheory said:But since it is a sale, doesn't it make that part of your income, thus allowing tax-write offs? I guess my point is, if the government is going to treat a seller as a business that charges sales tax, can't that seller in turn accept money from the government as a business? I'm only asking to become more knowledgeable, not to be difficult.![]()
And what is this business money tree that the government is allowing businesses to just "accept"?
I'm simply talking about tax write-offs.
Craig - 21hawk said:sportscardtheory said:200lbhockeyplayer said:Do you think every business gets handouts from the government?sportscardtheory said:But since it is a sale, doesn't it make that part of your income, thus allowing tax-write offs? I guess my point is, if the government is going to treat a seller as a business that charges sales tax, can't that seller in turn accept money from the government as a business? I'm only asking to become more knowledgeable, not to be difficult.![]()
And what is this business money tree that the government is allowing businesses to just "accept"?
I'm simply talking about tax write-offs.
Again. Sales tax is not income, the seller is just a middle man for the government. As there is no income from sales tax there is nothing to use a tax write off against.
Craig
sportscardtheory said:Craig - 21hawk said:sportscardtheory said:200lbhockeyplayer said:Do you think every business gets handouts from the government?sportscardtheory said:But since it is a sale, doesn't it make that part of your income, thus allowing tax-write offs? I guess my point is, if the government is going to treat a seller as a business that charges sales tax, can't that seller in turn accept money from the government as a business? I'm only asking to become more knowledgeable, not to be difficult.![]()
And what is this business money tree that the government is allowing businesses to just "accept"?
I'm simply talking about tax write-offs.
Again. Sales tax is not income, the seller is just a middle man for the government. As there is no income from sales tax there is nothing to use a tax write off against.
Craig
I really don't think you are catching my drift. If the government is going to treat us sellers like businesses and force us to charge a sales tax, which DOES hurt sales, why then should we not be TREATED LIKE BUSINESSES and have the same options as they do.
Craig - 21hawk said:sportscardtheory said:[quote="Craig - 21hawk":fk2p2ows]sportscardtheory said:200lbhockeyplayer said:Do you think every business gets handouts from the government?sportscardtheory said:But since it is a sale, doesn't it make that part of your income, thus allowing tax-write offs? I guess my point is, if the government is going to treat a seller as a business that charges sales tax, can't that seller in turn accept money from the government as a business? I'm only asking to become more knowledgeable, not to be difficult.![]()
And what is this business money tree that the government is allowing businesses to just "accept"?
I'm simply talking about tax write-offs.
Again. Sales tax is not income, the seller is just a middle man for the government. As there is no income from sales tax there is nothing to use a tax write off against.
Craig
I really don't think you are catching my drift. If the government is going to treat us sellers like businesses and force us to charge a sales tax, which DOES hurt sales, why then should we not be TREATED LIKE BUSINESSES and have the same options as they do.
sportscardtheory said:Craig - 21hawk said:sportscardtheory said:[quote="Craig - 21hawk":2n9yuaps]sportscardtheory said:Do you think every business gets handouts from the government?200lbhockeyplayer said:[quote="sportscardtheory":2n9yuaps]
But since it is a sale, doesn't it make that part of your income, thus allowing tax-write offs? I guess my point is, if the government is going to treat a seller as a business that charges sales tax, can't that seller in turn accept money from the government as a business? I'm only asking to become more knowledgeable, not to be difficult.![]()
And what is this business money tree that the government is allowing businesses to just "accept"?
I'm simply talking about tax write-offs.
Again. Sales tax is not income, the seller is just a middle man for the government. As there is no income from sales tax there is nothing to use a tax write off against.
Craig
I really don't think you are catching my drift. If the government is going to treat us sellers like businesses and force us to charge a sales tax, which DOES hurt sales, why then should we not be TREATED LIKE BUSINESSES and have the same options as they do.
Craig - 21hawk said:sportscardtheory said:If you sell something for $1,000, you seriously don't think an extra $100 tacked on in the end will affect your sale???
When you go to a store and buy something do you factor in the tax when deciding to buy it?
Craig
sportscardtheory said:Craig - 21hawk said:sportscardtheory said:If you sell something for $1,000, you seriously don't think an extra $100 tacked on in the end will affect your sale???
When you go to a store and buy something do you factor in the tax when deciding to buy it?
Craig
If it something I'm buying on eBay from a regular person, YES. I'm not going to argue the validity of sales tax in a store with you. This is a different matter.
Craig - 21hawk said:sportscardtheory said:[quote="Craig - 21hawk":a3idpj7z]sportscardtheory said:If you sell something for $1,000, you seriously don't think an extra $100 tacked on in the end will affect your sale???
When you go to a store and buy something do you factor in the tax when deciding to buy it?
Craig
If it something I'm buying on eBay from a regular person, YES. I'm not going to argue the validity of sales tax in a store with you. This is a different matter.