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elmalo

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This whole thing is them doing something. Players are being suspended all the time and they are always looking into stuff like this. I'm not sure what more you want MLB to do? All they can do is test and keep their ear to the ground.
They aret doing jack. You can easily be on a normal cycle of anabolics and your test wont be flagged. They are allowed to have a 4 to 1 ratio before they even test to see if the test is synthetic. Which means you dont need to be one step ahead, you dont need designer steroids and you dont need masking agents. All you need is to be dilligent and keep your levels within the 4 to 1 ratio.
 

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Looks like the Yanks are trying to find a way to void his contract.


The other day Cashman was quoted as saying that he wouldn't be surprised if AROD missed the entire season from his surgery. Not it makes one wonder if he knew about this report.
 

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They aret doing jack. You can easily be on a normal cycle of anabolics and your test wont be flagged. They are allowed to have a 4 to 1 ratio before they even test to see if the test is synthetic. Which means you dont need to be one step ahead, you dont need designer steroids and you dont need masking agents. All you need is to be dilligent and keep your levels within the 4 to 1 ratio.

If they "aren't doing jack" no one would be ever suspended and stories like this one wouldn't exist. Of course they can't test every player, every single day of year. But to say they aren't doing anything at all is idiotic. Clearly they are doing SOMETHING.
 

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If they "aren't doing jack" no one would be ever suspended and stories like this one wouldn't exist. Of course they can't test every player, every single day of year. But to say they aren't doing anything at all is idiotic. Clearly they are doing SOMETHING.
What they are doing is a rouse. Yes, they occasionally catch people, like I said, you have to be a little diligent.
 

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If they "aren't doing jack" no one would be ever suspended and stories like this one wouldn't exist. Of course they can't test every player, every single day of year. But to say they aren't doing anything at all is idiotic. Clearly they are doing SOMETHING.

perhaps they meant... not doing enough.

yes they are doing "something" but in most instances where doing "something" will cause huge rifts and problems, drama and bad publicity...is it not easier to just toss a few scapegoats onto the sacrificial table until people stop yelling and try to move on until people start back up?

the idea isn't to stop doping its to kill the public perception that it is as widespread as it appears and that they are diligently working to improve the situation, so sit tight and keep paying up folks...nothing to see here...we got the bad guy! either way like with all business it comes down to money for the people on top. and what continues to make them the most--not necessarily what is best for the game, let alone best for the game to be played cleanly and fairly.

I accepted its tainted a long time ago, it is what it is and that is that. I enjoy it for what it is.
 
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If they "aren't doing jack" no one would be ever suspended and stories like this one wouldn't exist. Of course they can't test every player, every single day of year. But to say they aren't doing anything at all is idiotic. Clearly they are doing SOMETHING.

Stories like this exist because there are journalists who do their job. Don't hype that up to being something involving the MLB. They don't have anything to do with stories.

Riveraxvx had some great points and said pretty much everything I wanted to in a more articulate manner. I told you what they could do and that was try to be more proactive. It's obvious that there are known concoctions and substances that will fail a test. It's common sense that athletes are trying to beat that so they are looking for other substances to do it. Or cycling on and off just right. I'd say a test needs to be way more random, and super secret with not a single warning. I'd also say if you get caught once, you're out a whole season's worth of games with no pay. That does two things. It sends a strong message to users but it also allows for an honest mistake to still not be a career ender. But if caught a second time, you are banned from baseball and anything related to it.

I honestly don't even care that they use. I think we've all become a little desensitized. But don't sit there and say you are really pushing these guys to be clean and then taking baby steps to do so. It's like watching two people say they are going to fight but it never gets past words or pushing. Either fight or argue but if you're going to fight, then start throwing hey makers.
 

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The problem is there is more money on the side of using than the side of catching. Flip the pay and you'll find a solution to the testing issues that are present.

This pretty much sums it up. Melky Cabrera is the ideal candidate to look at. Who would've thought he could be the player he was in KC and SF after watching him play in NY and ATL? Not me. But guess what? He was awarded $16 million for his deceit. Who here would turn that opportunity down with his ability? Not many, if any.
 

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Concerned with Cruz and his influence or if any other fellow Rangers are guilty.
He will be gone next year as a free agent, not to worried about that now.

Cruz was a career minor leaguer who was bounced around. Roids helped him to become an all star caliber player.
 
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This pretty much sums it up. Melky Cabrera is the ideal candidate to look at. Who would've thought he could be the player he was in KC and SF after watching him play in NY and ATL? Not me. But guess what? He was awarded $16 million for his deceit. Who here would turn that opportunity down with his ability? Not many, if any.

It is interesting to see what happens to player salaries after something like this... but what happens to the interest in and value of their cards?

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This pretty much sums it up. Melky Cabrera is the ideal candidate to look at. Who would've thought he could be the player he was in KC and SF after watching him play in NY and ATL? Not me. But guess what? He was awarded $16 million for his deceit. Who here would turn that opportunity down with his ability? Not many, if any.


Bartolo Colon got a raise as well.
 

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I used to collect tejada from 04-07ish. As soon as his name was brought up in the steroids talk his cards went to crap.

Well...so did his game...

If this story is followed through I'm sure their cards will decrease in value
 

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Anybody complaining about baseball and their testing should look at the absolute joke that is the NFL. And the NBA for that matter.
 

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This has nothing to do with that. Show me the law that says I cant take steriods.

Not without a prescription. Problem is, scripps are easy to get. But it's still against mlb rules to take. Only interesting thing is what happens if you get a guy with a serious disability where he has to take HGH or some form of steroid and MLB trys to pop him for taking his normal medicine. I'm sure all these guys have a "real prescription" but most of it is for trying to come back from injuries and taking them just for the edge they give. What happens when it's medically necessary?
 

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