Assuming Scott Feldman wins today, is he AL Cy Young?

[markakis8]

Rangers are winning 5-0 in 7th. He'll be 16-4 with an ERA in the low 3's...Verlander and CC are both 16-7 with equal ERA's...

Then there is Greinke, Felix, and Roy with great ERA's but 14 wins or lower...

I think Feldman deserves to be in consideration right now.

 

[blazers091]

no, greinke wins

 

[Sly]

Consideration? Absolutely. Win? Not a chance.

Out of the following: Sabathia, Feldman, Verlander, Felix, Halladay, Beckett and Greinke, Feldman has the least amount of innings, lowest strikeout total (not even at 100), second highest ERA, highest WHIP, and second highest BAA.

Looking at the numbers, it's hard to argue against Greinke. Biggest knock on him will be the win total though (which is an overrated stat). After that, probably Felix and Verlander.

Feldman won't finish in the Top 5.

 

[markakis8]

I'm all on board with Greinke, don't get me wrong. I think he's a clear winner right now. I just think Feldman has been pitching great for a playoff hunt team and he's never mentioned in any of the discussions for Cy Young.

Oh, and don't mention the beach-ball throwing Beckett in Cy Young discussion again. That guy is giving up more home runs that then Duggar family has kids.

Consideration? Absolutely. Win? Not a chance.

Out of the following: Sabathia, Feldman, Verlander, Felix, Halladay, Beckett and Greinke, Feldman has the least amount of innings, lowest strikeout total (not even at 100), second highest ERA, highest WHIP, and second highest BAA.

Looking at the numbers, it's hard to argue against Greinke. Biggest knock on him will be the win total though (which is an overrated stat). After that, probably Felix and Verlander.

Feldman won't finish in the Top 5.

 

[Crash Davis]

Assuming Scott Feldman wins today, he will have a lot more wins than anyone could've imagined before the season started - but that's about it.

He won't even finish top 5.

Plus...ummm...he has 5-6 more starts to come back down to earth.

 

[All The Hype]

No.


He has 90Ks this year before today. Verlander has 222. Greinke has 210. It will be one of those two with Sabathia in third.

 

[JEA2880]

No chance it's Greinke. Team is too terrible for him to get serious consideration in my opinion. Is it fair? No. But is it reality? Yes.

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

I've been wondering about him. Is he THAT good...or a product of a powerful Rangers team? Almost 4 runs per 9 last time I checked.
I've got 4 Chrome RC's...wanna make an offer?

 

[sebpoo]

Assuming Scott Feldman wins today, he will have a lot more wins than anyone could've imagined before the season started - but that's about it.

He won't even finish top 5.

Plus...ummm...he has 5-6 more starts to come back down to earth.

True, but also to get 4-5 more wins and reach 20...

 

[All The Hype]

No chance it's Greinke. Team is too terrible for him to get serious consideration in my opinion. Is it fair? No. But is it reality? Yes.

Disagree--Cy Young is nothing like the MVP. You can play on the worst team in baseball (or in the league, in Greinke's case) and still win.

 

[donrusscrusademan]

Rangers are winning 5-0 in 7th. He'll be 16-4 with an ERA in the low 3's...Verlander and CC are both 16-7 with equal ERA's...

Then there is Greinke, Felix, and Roy with great ERA's but 14 wins or lower...

I think Feldman deserves to be in consideration right now.

I think rangers have a great lineup so wins are going to happen. but hes not in the level of felix and greinke right now IMO

 

[leatherman]

No chance it's Greinke. Team is too terrible for him to get serious consideration in my opinion. Is it fair? No. But is it reality? Yes.

Disagree--Cy Young is nothing like the MVP. You can play on the worst team in baseball (or in the league, in Greinke's case) and still win.

I agree with your disagreement. If anything, a lot of wins on a BAD team means more than a lot of wins on a GOOD team.

Case in point: The 1972 Phillies were 59-97. They had ONE starting pitcher win more than 5 games, but he won 27. He also won the first of his four CYAs that year.


David

 

[NECpilgrims8]

No chance it's Greinke. Team is too terrible for him to get serious consideration in my opinion. Is it fair? No. But is it reality? Yes.

I am amazed at how many people get sucked into the "the team is too terrible" trap, when it comes to MVP and CY YOUNG awards


Lincecum won CY in 2008. SF was terrible.

Arod won MVP in 2003. TEX was awful.

 

[aw00d05]

I've been wondering about him. Is he THAT good...or a product of a powerful Rangers team? Almost 4 runs per 9 last time I checked.
I've got 4 Chrome RC's...wanna make an offer?

He's been ALOT better than I ever expected since he was a submarine reliever just 2 years ago, but he's got 3-4 quality pitches and locates them very well. His start against TB a few weeks back was amazing. If he didn't start the year in the pen he could be at 17-18 wins and maybe be in the lead of the Cy Young since the people who vote only care about wins...

 

[card-treasury]

I'm not sure how Scott Feldman has become so dominating after a lackluster minor league career and a dull stint in the majors. I think he's very much in contention for the AL CY award, even though Felix Hernandez and Greinke have lower ERAs. He has been the main reason why the Rangers are in the wild card race. Without Scott Feldman, they are out of the race. Simple as that. I better list my (4) 20 ct. lots soon.

It has been a great, yet somewhat odd season for Feldman. Before the break, his ERA was almost a half run per 9 IP higher than after the break, yet his average against was .034 lower than in the second half of the season.

Batting average against shoots up from .233 to .267, while the ERA drops from 3.83 to 3.28.

 

[aw00d05]

I'm not sure how Scott Feldman has become so dominating after a lackluster minor league career and a dull stint in the majors. I think he's very much in contention for the AL CY award, even though Felix Hernandez and Greinke have lower ERAs. He has been the main reason why the Rangers are in the wild card race. Without Scott Feldman, they are out of the race. Simple as that. I better list my (4) 20 ct. lots soon.

It has been a great, yet somewhat odd season for Feldman. Before the break, his ERA was almost a half run per 9 IP higher than after the break, yet his average against was .034 lower than the second half of the season.

Two words about the big change: Mike Maddux

 

[markakis8]

I've watched him pitch a couple times. He's got a great sinker and a great cutter to go along with okay slider and curve. Sinker and cutter are two deceptive types of fastballs. If you have them both and are your 1-2 pitches, it's gotta be tough on the batter trying to decipher which direction the ball is going, in and down or out (to a RHB).

 

[aw00d05]

I've watched him pitch a couple times. He's got a great sinker and a great cutter to go along with okay slider and curve. Sinker and cutter are two deceptive types of fastballs. If you have them both and are your 1-2 pitches, it's gotta be tough on the batter trying to decipher which direction the ball is going, in and down or out (to a RHB).

Yep, I think the big reason he's doing well is the cutter, before he's had the sinker, and could get some outs but now he has the cutter to jam lefties and his curve and slider are progressing thanks to Mike Maddux.

 

[donrusscrusademan]

I've watched him pitch a couple times. He's got a great sinker and a great cutter to go along with okay slider and curve. Sinker and cutter are two deceptive types of fastballs. If you have them both and are your 1-2 pitches, it's gotta be tough on the batter trying to decipher which direction the ball is going, in and down or out (to a RHB).

agreed. not the best guy in the league right now, but he has been pitching his heart out and when you have 2 great pitches with movement youre going to do great things... he should just keep his eye on the big prize and not get caught up in CY and other awards.
only thing that makes me wonder is why he had trouble the last 2 years.. Im guessing those pitches hang up in the zone instead of move every now and then.


right now his era is a hole 1.1 higher than felix so no CY

 

[Jays_Cards]

I'm all on board with Greinke, don't get me wrong. I think he's a clear winner right now. I just think Feldman has been pitching great for a playoff hunt team and he's never mentioned in any of the discussions for Cy Young.

Oh, and don't mention the beach-ball throwing Beckett in Cy Young discussion again. That guy is giving up more home runs that then Duggar family has kids.

Consideration? Absolutely. Win? Not a chance.

Out of the following: Sabathia, Feldman, Verlander, Felix, Halladay, Beckett and Greinke, Feldman has the least amount of innings, lowest strikeout total (not even at 100), second highest ERA, highest WHIP, and second highest BAA.

Looking at the numbers, it's hard to argue against Greinke. Biggest knock on him will be the win total though (which is an overrated stat). After that, probably Felix and Verlander.

Feldman won't finish in the Top 5.

While he may no longer be in the Cy discussion, please do not make uninformed ridiculous statements with no factual/statistical backing....

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