BA's 2009 Top 100 Prospects List

[Hallsgator]

Top 50...Sweet!

 

[ryanhoward06]

4 Phillies in the Top 69...I'm in shock, yet somehow disappointed that Michael Taylor didn't sneak into the back end of the list.

Great to see huh? I think Taylor and Drabek have to be in the 101-120 range.

Are you going to any Reading games this year? I'm looking forward to seeing Taylor.

 

[andyduke86]

A few observations for me:

I'm surprised Rasmus is #3. He's definitely top 10 though but I didnt expect him to be quite so high.

Travis Snider is about 15-20 spots too high. I'm not a fan of future DHs

Gordon Beckham is 10-20 spots too high as is Mike Stanton. Far too many question marks surrounding both now (position & Ks/long swing)

Porcello is much too low. He's in my top 5.

Pedro Alvarez is the only 08 draftees that can make a legit claim to being a better prospect than Tim Beckham. Timmy should be 10 spots higher

Derek Holland is at worst a top 20 prospect

I'm glad they gave Wade Davis some love at 32. Most under-appreciated pitching prospect there is.

Jhoulys Chacin at 46. Approximately where I predicted.

Michael Inoa is way too high for a 16 year old. Shouldn't even be top 100

Aaron Poreda is too high. Future reliever

Matt Dominguez is too low.

Brignac should be a little higher. He is easily a better prospect than Jason Donald, that is for sure.

 

[shephech]

Re: BA's Top 100 today right?

This list is making me laugh more and more every year..... Rick Porcello at #21 is complete BS.

And Rasmus still around in top 5 is embarassing..... The kid was supposed to debut like what 3 yrs ago and continues to put up lowsy numbers for a top 5 prospect.

Feliz/Anderson- Pitcher/Bumgarner above Porcello is a joke really.....

Bumgarner dominated Low A last year.... woooo hooooo!!! he used basically 1 pitch and blew away class A hitters with the heater, from what I gather he does not have one good secondary pitch.... and if they believe a fast ball i gonna cut it with major league players they are very very wrong.

Shep :ugeek:

 

[Jaypers]

Re: BA's Top 100 today right?

Merge threads, Chris?

 

[Wes]

Merge threads, Chris?

Done. My name is Wes.

 

[Jaypers]

Merge threads, Chris?

Done. My name is Wes.

Thanks, Chris. :lol:

 

[All The Hype]

Re: BA's Top 100 today right?

This list is making me laugh more and more every year..... Rick Porcello at #21 is complete BS.

And Rasmus still around in top 5 is embarassing..... The kid was supposed to debut like what 3 yrs ago and continues to put up lowsy numbers for a top 5 prospect.

Feliz/Anderson- Pitcher/Bumgarner above Porcello is a joke really.....

Bumgarner dominated Low A last year.... woooo hooooo!!! he used basically 1 pitch and blew away class A hitters with the heater, from what I gather he does not have one good secondary pitch.... and if they believe a fast ball i gonna cut it with major league players they are very very wrong.

Shep :ugeek:

Bumgarner has made some big progress with his secondary stuff from what I hear. And any LEFT HANDED pitcher who can throw upper-90s has huge potential in the big leagues. Not to mention he could not have had a better season in 2008. He's the only one of the guys that I can see being ahead of Porcello. Not based on ceiling, but based on actual numbers.

 

[Hallsgator]

It's funny to see all the new, overpriced listings on eBay for JPA.

 

[bballcardkid]

Freeman at 87? Jeesh

 

[Wes]

Re: BA's Top 100 today right?

This list is making me laugh more and more every year..... Rick Porcello at #21 is complete BS.

And Rasmus still around in top 5 is embarassing..... The kid was supposed to debut like what 3 yrs ago and continues to put up lowsy numbers for a top 5 prospect.

Feliz/Anderson- Pitcher/Bumgarner above Porcello is a joke really.....

Bumgarner dominated Low A last year.... woooo hooooo!!! he used basically 1 pitch and blew away class A hitters with the heater, from what I gather he does not have one good secondary pitch.... and if they believe a fast ball i gonna cut it with major league players they are very very wrong.

Shep :ugeek:

Your scouting report on Bumgarner is ancient. He led the minor leagues in ERA, is left handed and throws in the mid to high 90's. All recipes for being a top prospect.

 

[All The Hype]

Freeman at 87? Jeesh

I think he was overrated/overhyped last year by the message boards so this doesn't really surprise me, but I do think he should have been somewhere in the 60s probably.

 

[shephech]

Ahhh we shall see what comes of Bumgarner..... he still was in Class A, and this year will make him or break him as a buddy of mine said.

We will see if he can put up those nasty numbers all through the system.... my Bum aflac should be in today .

I don't need the approval of some guy's list to know that Porcello will be a staff ace someday.

Shep :ugeek:

 

[shephech]

Yeah dang! Freeman was ranked low.... I never really take these lists seriously, does anyone really.

These guys are just making educated guesses correct?.

Shep :ugeek:

 

[All The Hype]

Ahhh we shall see what comes of Bumgarner..... he still was in Class A, and this year will make him or break him as a buddy of mine said.

We will see if he can put up those nasty numbers all through the system.... my Bum aflac should be in today .

I don't need the approval of some guy's list to know that Porcello will be a staff ace someday.

Shep :ugeek:

Just because he's ranked 21st doesn't mean that they don't think he will be a staff ace. I personally believe he is a top 5 guy (or at least top 10), but BA apparently wanted to have some other guys in front of him.

 

[Wes]

Ahhh we shall see what comes of Bumgarner..... he still was in Class A, and this year will make him or break him as a buddy of mine said.

We will see if he can put up those nasty numbers all through the system.... my Bum aflac should be in today .

I don't need the approval of some guy's list to know that Porcello will be a staff ace someday.

Shep :ugeek:

Just because he's ranked 21st doesn't mean that they don't think he will be a staff ace. I personally believe he is a top 5 guy (or at least top 10), but BA apparently wanted to have some other guys in front of him.

I think of it this way - if there were a draft of all minor league players regardless of salaries how would it go?

 

[All The Hype]

Ahhh we shall see what comes of Bumgarner..... he still was in Class A, and this year will make him or break him as a buddy of mine said.

We will see if he can put up those nasty numbers all through the system.... my Bum aflac should be in today .

I don't need the approval of some guy's list to know that Porcello will be a staff ace someday.

Shep :ugeek:

Just because he's ranked 21st doesn't mean that they don't think he will be a staff ace. I personally believe he is a top 5 guy (or at least top 10), but BA apparently wanted to have some other guys in front of him.

I think of it this way - if there were a draft of all minor league players regardless of salaries how would it go?

Yeah that's a great way to look at it. Don't think Porcello would last until pick #21 though

 

[Wes]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":7ynftfkk]

Ahhh we shall see what comes of Bumgarner..... he still was in Class A, and this year will make him or break him as a buddy of mine said.

We will see if he can put up those nasty numbers all through the system.... my Bum aflac should be in today .

I don't need the approval of some guy's list to know that Porcello will be a staff ace someday.

Shep :ugeek:

Just because he's ranked 21st doesn't mean that they don't think he will be a staff ace. I personally believe he is a top 5 guy (or at least top 10), but BA apparently wanted to have some other guys in front of him.

I think of it this way - if there were a draft of all minor league players regardless of salaries how would it go?

Yeah that's a great way to look at it. Don't think Porcello would last until pick #21 though [/quote:7ynftfkk]

How many of them would he jump though? Which guys? I think #21 is pretty fair.

 

[All The Hype]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":2vrb6fw2]

Ahhh we shall see what comes of Bumgarner..... he still was in Class A, and this year will make him or break him as a buddy of mine said.

We will see if he can put up those nasty numbers all through the system.... my Bum aflac should be in today .

I don't need the approval of some guy's list to know that Porcello will be a staff ace someday.

Shep :ugeek:

Just because he's ranked 21st doesn't mean that they don't think he will be a staff ace. I personally believe he is a top 5 guy (or at least top 10), but BA apparently wanted to have some other guys in front of him.

I think of it this way - if there were a draft of all minor league players regardless of salaries how would it go?

Yeah that's a great way to look at it. Don't think Porcello would last until pick #21 though

How many of them would he jump though? Which guys? I think #21 is pretty fair.[/quote:2vrb6fw2]


Well it depends if we're going by ceiling or past numbers. I'll assume ceiling...

Porcello's ceiling is somewhere around the kind of season Tim Lincecum had in 2008, as an all-star, a staff ace, and a Cy Young Award winner. It's a very similar ceiling to David Price, although they come from completely different backgrounds as Price was a college pitcher while Porcello was drafted out of HS, etc. But if that is true, you could argue that he would only be a spot or three behind Price, jumping him into the top 5 or 6.

Honestly some of these guys are toss-ups. Would you rather have Porcello or Heyward if they reach their ceiling? A guy that's almost a guaranteed win every 5th game for your team, or a guy who will bat third and hit 40 homeruns and possibly steal 30-40 bases?

 

[shephech]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":ivdjovwr]

Ahhh we shall see what comes of Bumgarner..... he still was in Class A, and this year will make him or break him as a buddy of mine said.

We will see if he can put up those nasty numbers all through the system.... my Bum aflac should be in today .

I don't need the approval of some guy's list to know that Porcello will be a staff ace someday.

Shep :ugeek:

But if he was a Giant at #21 with his potential.... you would be outraged .

Seriously I really don't care.... because all we gotta do is take a look at the 05 list and see some number 95-100's better then alot of the 10-20's....

it's all good though .

Shep :ugeek:

Just because he's ranked 21st doesn't mean that they don't think he will be a staff ace. I personally believe he is a top 5 guy (or at least top 10), but BA apparently wanted to have some other guys in front of him.

I think of it this way - if there were a draft of all minor league players regardless of salaries how would it go?

Yeah that's a great way to look at it. Don't think Porcello would last until pick #21 though

How many of them would he jump though? Which guys? I think #21 is pretty fair.[/quote:ivdjovwr]