Baseball Prospectus Updated Top 5 Prospects

[jcmint]

I respect your post but I am looking at this very differently. Profar has already achieved and surpassed the 100 plateau. people were sold with his overall package and for good reason. The power is there at a premium position. Lindor has not shown his in game power to this point. Im not sure where the 15 hr potential is based on right now. Profar showed that power in the minors. I believe the point here is Lindor has not shown much of any power. Profar certainly has justifying his rank

For those hung up on Lindor's power and assume his value has limited upside I'd take a closer look at Jurickson Profar. While no two players are created equal and possessing 4 of the same tools doesn't mean they have exactly the same skills, the skill set is pretty similar. Switch-hitting SS with cannon arms, smooth D, solid speed and a very good hit tool. Profar has more power presently, and likely in the long run, but in the end it's probably as close as a 20 hr/yr guy vs a 15. And it's not like Lindor can't sell out for power - he was the Aflac All American Home Run Derby champion at Petco in 2010. But we can agree it's likely never going to be a huge part of his game.

I am aware Profar is less than a year older than Lindor and already in the majors but he also had more pro experience under his belt thanks to signing at 16. And Cleveland is not Texas. No comp is perfect but adding this as some food for thought.

 

[chompsmcgee]

I respect your post but I am looking at this very differently. Profar has already achieved and surpassed the 100 plateau. people were sold with his overall package and for good reason. The power is there at a premium position. Lindor has not shown his in game power to this point. Im not sure where the 15 hr potential is based on right now. Profar showed that power in the minors. I believe the point here is Lindor has not shown much of any power. Profar certainly has justifying his rank

Not saying Lindor is a future $100 chrome but I am saying that at $35 or less there is still money to be made.

 

[phillyfan0417]

I respect your post but I am looking at this very differently. Profar has already achieved and surpassed the 100 plateau. people were sold with his overall package and for good reason. The power is there at a premium position. Lindor has not shown his in game power to this point. Im not sure where the 15 hr potential is based on right now. Profar showed that power in the minors. I believe the point here is Lindor has not shown much of any power. Profar certainly has justifying his rank

ok, i'll play along

Profar has 1306 minor league at bats and 34 HR's. So a HR for 38 at bats....

so over 500 at bats, he has hit about 14 HR's


Is this the power you say he's proven?

 

[jcmint]

Tim comparing the power between these two guys is silly. Profars bat was so advanced he went from LO A ball right to Double AA and killed it. Almost the same age and Profar is in the bigs. His seasons in Low A and Double AA where he showed the power cemented his hobby status justifying 100+ gem. I have watched both its clear who's bat has pop and whose doesnt to this point. Its not hard to see. Lindor looks to be a great prospect but a 100 gem is gonna be really tough without the pop.

ok, i'll play along

Profar has 1306 minor league at bats and 34 HR's. So a HR for 38 at bats....

so over 500 at bats, he has hit about 14 HR's


Is this the power you say he's proven?

 

[phillyfan0417]

Tim comparing the power between these two guys is silly. Profars bat was so advanced he went from LO A ball right to Double AA and killed it. Almost the same age and Profar is in the bigs. His seasons in Low A and Double AA where he showed the power cemented his hobby status justifying 100+ gem. I have watched both its clear who's bat has pop and whose doesnt to this point. Its not hard to see. Lindor looks to be a great prospect but a 100 gem is gonna be really tough without the pop.

Jurickson Profar Minor League Statistics & History - Baseball-Reference.com


There are profars numbers...I'm still looking for the numbers that show he's advanced and a 100 dollar chrome.

 

[hail2thevictors]

Tim comparing the power between these two guys is silly. Profars bat was so advanced he went from LO A ball right to Double AA and killed it. Almost the same age and Profar is in the bigs. His seasons in Low A and Double AA where he showed the power cemented his hobby status justifying 100+ gem. I have watched both its clear who's bat has pop and whose doesnt to this point. Its not hard to see. Lindor looks to be a great prospect but a 100 gem is gonna be really tough without the pop.

As someone who invested heavily early on into Profar, I think you are confusing power with extra base hits. Profar never showed terrific power, or in other words it wasn't his power that drove the Profar prices IMO. What did drive the prices higher and higher was his crazy number of extra base hits coupled him going from a top 50ish prospect to a top 10 prospect, to ultimately a #1 overall prospect.

I remember breaking down his stats during 2011, and he was basically at a pace of 1 XBH every other game--which is phenominal. But to say his power cemented his prices is a definite exaggeration IMO.