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Hey guys what's up? I talked to a friend of mine about BGS who was at the Chicago show this weekend. I'm sure we all know this goes on but I wanted to bring it to attention and get opinions.
He submitted a two Montana RCs HIMSELF a few times and they kept coming back restored. In addition, he submitted a few colored chrome autos of higher end prospects and could never get gems. He met up with a friend of his at the show, and submitted all the same cards including the Montanas under his friends name. Of course they get an 8.5 and 9.5 on the Montanas, and over 70% 9.5s on the colored parallels.
To me, this is INCREDIBLY concerning and has been going on way too long. Yes, most of us including me, do raw card review and don't always get the 9s slabbed and obviously the RCR results don't go into the pop report. In addition many of us have grading deals where only the GEMs or Pristines get slabbed.
I'm starting to really get sick of this. a BGS 9.5 isn't the same as it was before. They are so easy and depending on who yo are or how much you submit (evidenced above) is really watering down the market. I am really starting to think there should be NO MORE RCR, and EVERYTHING should get slabbed so it can be recorded in the POP report.
Do you think it hurts sales when people check pop report and see that over 90% of cards in POP are 9.5 and 10 in most cases?
A GREAT example of this is Dominic Brown elites and contenders. It's an INCREDIBLY high ratio of 9.5s on SUPER condition sensitive cards.
I know it's a great feeling getting a high percentage of gems and some pristines, but don't you think ultimately this is really hurting the prices in the long run?
Opinions and answers welcome!
He submitted a two Montana RCs HIMSELF a few times and they kept coming back restored. In addition, he submitted a few colored chrome autos of higher end prospects and could never get gems. He met up with a friend of his at the show, and submitted all the same cards including the Montanas under his friends name. Of course they get an 8.5 and 9.5 on the Montanas, and over 70% 9.5s on the colored parallels.
To me, this is INCREDIBLY concerning and has been going on way too long. Yes, most of us including me, do raw card review and don't always get the 9s slabbed and obviously the RCR results don't go into the pop report. In addition many of us have grading deals where only the GEMs or Pristines get slabbed.
I'm starting to really get sick of this. a BGS 9.5 isn't the same as it was before. They are so easy and depending on who yo are or how much you submit (evidenced above) is really watering down the market. I am really starting to think there should be NO MORE RCR, and EVERYTHING should get slabbed so it can be recorded in the POP report.
Do you think it hurts sales when people check pop report and see that over 90% of cards in POP are 9.5 and 10 in most cases?
A GREAT example of this is Dominic Brown elites and contenders. It's an INCREDIBLY high ratio of 9.5s on SUPER condition sensitive cards.
I know it's a great feeling getting a high percentage of gems and some pristines, but don't you think ultimately this is really hurting the prices in the long run?
Opinions and answers welcome!