Brett Wallace traded for Matt Holliday!

[jubei777]

i'm looking dh if he doesn't work out at the corners.

 

[pujolsjunkie]

All the people bashing the Cards for this deal are nuts.

Enjoy Brett Wallace, the next Daric Barton.

 

[Super Mario]

This ESPN text message literally woke me up, and I LOVE IT! I didn`t think the Cardinals would go out and do much, but they are proving me wrong. Going to be a good day.

 

[darocker80]

Assuming both make it to the bigs, who DHs? Chris Carter or Brett Walace? Who plays first or third (For the Athletics)?

 

[MacK]

This ESPN text message literally woke me up, and I LOVE IT! I didn`t think the Cardinals would go out and do much, but they are proving me wrong. Going to be a good day.

Sam, remember what I said yesterday?

I'll eat my words.

 

[Super Mario]

I was actually thinking about that when I got on here Mack, lol. I hope they work out an extension for him.

 

[MacK]

I was actually thinking about that when I got on here Mack, lol. I hope they work out an extension for him.

Yeah, I really hope so too. When I originally saw the deal, I figured that since we had included 2 more prospects, perhaps we had a negotiation window, or perhaps Oakland was paying his entire salary for the rest of the year. Not the case.

But, we have a lot of money coming off the books this year with Glaus, Greene, Kennedy, Welle, etc, so there will be money available. Pineiro too, but I kinda think he'll re-up. That's about $25M+ in those 4 right there.

 

[Super Mario]

Give him a couple of weeks playing with Pujols and in front of the Busch crowd and he will WANT to re-up.

 

[Wes]

All the people bashing the Cards for this deal are nuts.

Enjoy Brett Wallace, the next Daric Barton.

As someone who has followed Wallace since high school you'll definitely be eating those words. If Holliday returns to his 07/08 form and resigns then the deal will be fine for STL. If he doesn't, this is a huge mistake as not only will they have to offer arbitration to even get draft picks, which will cost $14-16 million - A LOT more than an outfielder of his play this year would command on the free agent market - but they'd also have given up their top remaining prospect. Wallace is going to be at worst a productive #5 hitter in the major leagues. The type of player who hits .300 with his eyes closed.

 

[darocker80]

i wanna see BA or Jaypers top A's prospect list now

 

[jubei777]

looks like he'll be tried out at 3rd for a bit

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ath ... 4224&tsp=1

 

[darocker80]

Wallace and Peterson is probably the better/safter route than two draft picks

 

[pujolsjunkie]

All the people bashing the Cards for this deal are nuts.

Enjoy Brett Wallace, the next Daric Barton.

As someone who has followed Wallace since high school you'll definitely be eating those words. If Holliday returns to his 07/08 form and resigns then the deal will be fine for STL. If he doesn't, this is a huge mistake as not only will they have to offer arbitration to even get draft picks, which will cost $14-16 million - A LOT more than an outfielder of his play this year would command on the free agent market - but they'd also have given up their top remaining prospect. Wallace is going to be at worst a productive #5 hitter in the major leagues. The type of player who hits .300 with his eyes closed.

I agree he can swing it, but there is only one place where he can ultimately play - first base. That wasn't going to fly in St. Louis.

 

[darocker80]

All the people bashing the Cards for this deal are nuts.

Enjoy Brett Wallace, the next Daric Barton.

As someone who has followed Wallace since high school you'll definitely be eating those words. If Holliday returns to his 07/08 form and resigns then the deal will be fine for STL. If he doesn't, this is a huge mistake as not only will they have to offer arbitration to even get draft picks, which will cost $14-16 million - A LOT more than an outfielder of his play this year would command on the free agent market - but they'd also have given up their top remaining prospect. Wallace is going to be at worst a productive #5 hitter in the major leagues. The type of player who hits .300 with his eyes closed.

I agree he can swing it, but there is only one place where he can ultimately play - first base. That wasn't going to fly in St. Louis.

Where does Chris CArter play, DH?

 

[Wes]

All the people bashing the Cards for this deal are nuts.

Enjoy Brett Wallace, the next Daric Barton.

As someone who has followed Wallace since high school you'll definitely be eating those words. If Holliday returns to his 07/08 form and resigns then the deal will be fine for STL. If he doesn't, this is a huge mistake as not only will they have to offer arbitration to even get draft picks, which will cost $14-16 million - A LOT more than an outfielder of his play this year would command on the free agent market - but they'd also have given up their top remaining prospect. Wallace is going to be at worst a productive #5 hitter in the major leagues. The type of player who hits .300 with his eyes closed.

I agree he can swing it, but there is only one place where he can ultimately play - first base. That wasn't going to fly in St. Louis.

I think he's got a shot to stick at third for the first couple of seasons, and of course he isn't blocked at first base either in Oakland. He's certainly better than Daric Barton.

 

[pujolsjunkie]

All the people bashing the Cards for this deal are nuts.

Enjoy Brett Wallace, the next Daric Barton.

As someone who has followed Wallace since high school you'll definitely be eating those words. If Holliday returns to his 07/08 form and resigns then the deal will be fine for STL. If he doesn't, this is a huge mistake as not only will they have to offer arbitration to even get draft picks, which will cost $14-16 million - A LOT more than an outfielder of his play this year would command on the free agent market - but they'd also have given up their top remaining prospect. Wallace is going to be at worst a productive #5 hitter in the major leagues. The type of player who hits .300 with his eyes closed.

I agree he can swing it, but there is only one place where he can ultimately play - first base. That wasn't going to fly in St. Louis.

I think he's got a shot to stick at third for the first couple of seasons, and of course he isn't blocked at first base either in Oakland. He's certainly better than Daric Barton.

At the time of that trade, Barton was an elite prospect. I'm also not denying that he can play first in Oakland. I'm just saying he couldn't with the Cards.

 

[pujolsthomefan33]

All the people bashing the Cards for this deal are nuts.

Enjoy Brett Wallace, the next Daric Barton.

As someone who has followed Wallace since high school you'll definitely be eating those words. If Holliday returns to his 07/08 form and resigns then the deal will be fine for STL. If he doesn't, this is a huge mistake as not only will they have to offer arbitration to even get draft picks, which will cost $14-16 million - A LOT more than an outfielder of his play this year would command on the free agent market - but they'd also have given up their top remaining prospect. Wallace is going to be at worst a productive #5 hitter in the major leagues. The type of player who hits .300 with his eyes closed.

I agree he can swing it, but there is only one place where he can ultimately play - first base. That wasn't going to fly in St. Louis.

I think he's got a shot to stick at third for the first couple of seasons, and of course he isn't blocked at first base either in Oakland. He's certainly better than Daric Barton.

I agree with you, Wallace has A LOT of POTENTIAL (Key word here). It could be that the cardinals just traded away the next Mike Schmidt or Brooks Robinson....however, I highly doubt that is the outcome. What the Cardinals did do was trade a "Maybe or Possibly" for a .319 career avg. Major League Ballplayer--I really dont think they went wrong, especially when the Cardinals are pretty deep with talent in the minors....and as stated before, they really should not have any problem resigning him since there will be quite a bit of money left from people leaving.


TK

 

[Greg Cleveland]

I think I may want all the Matt Holliday stuff I've given out over the years back. :lol: I don't know about the prospects the Cards gave up, but if they can sign him for a couple of years, it would be worth it to have him batting behind Albert.

 

[George_Calfas]

About Holliday and a long term deal; I thought he stated that one of the places he wanted to play was StL and that was why they were one of the winter suitors for him

 

[Jaypers]

JAYPERS (IL): Your thoughts on the Wallace/Holliday trade?

Jim Shonerd: The Cardinals needed an infusion of offense for their outfield. But their farm system was already on its way down our organization rankings, and now it's gotten even thinner. Wallace steps in as the best lefthanded bat in Oakland's system, and he's no longer blocked from moving to first base or DHing should that need arise.