Any issues that have been brought to my attention, I have taken care of them to the best of my abilities. I have been extremely picky and choosy on what I have been buying and selling. If I feel there is an issue with an item I simply do not buy it or sell it. I am not perfect and many sellers in the hobby have made purchases that they regret. I am a man of my word and anybody who knows me (face to face), knows the type of person I am. I appreciate Jimmy and Chris saying the things they have said about me. It seems that many people have their opinion about me, that will obviously not change. If their was any validity about the accusations that I am faking anything thatn the owner of a website with the reputation that Freedom Card Board has would not let me lease space. Just to make things even clearer, I was approached by Cgilmo (Chris) about leasing the space, I didnt approach him. So that should speak of my chararcter and the type of person I am. This is what these websites (forums) are made for, for people to share their opinions and to talk about the hobby.
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Any issues that have been brought to my attention, I have taken care of them to the best of my abilities. I have been extremely picky and choosy on what I have been buying and selling. If I feel there is an issue with an item I simply do not buy it or sell it. I am not perfect and many sellers in the hobby have made purchases that they regret. I am a man of my word and anybody who knows me (face to face), knows the type of person I am. I appreciate Jimmy and Chris saying the things they have said about me. It seems that many people have their opinion about me, that will obviously not change. If their was any validity about the accusations that I am faking anything thatn the owner of a website with the reputation that Freedom Card Board has would not let me lease space. Just to make things even clearer, I was approached by Cgilmo (Chris) about leasing the space, I didnt approach him. So that should speak of my chararcter and the type of person I am. This is what these websites (forums) are made for, for people to share their opinions and to talk about the hobby.
Okay now honestly affter looking at this photbucket. There are many photo shoots, slabbed cards by ***, and cards certified by Classics and Topps uncirculated. There are also some nice pathces in the persons collection of less than half of 1% of my listings. I have been picky in what I have been buying. I can only go by what I know, not what I think. If I have proof that something is not real or something is fake, or even if it doesnt look right to me then I do not buy it. This is the last time I will be discussing this particular issue as it has and is falling on deaf ears. Look forward to meeting many of you at the shop in Atlanta and at the shows all over the country, thanks, Evan CardBoardPimping
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I don't think it's fair to say that there is no validity to the claims. If someone says cardboardpimping has sold fakes, they are right. That photobucket link I posted with pics of cards you have sold shows some pretty clear fakes.
But you are right, I approached you about this opportunity because I felt like I could trust you to put a good product in the store. I am sure enough that you didn't produce a fake, and I know that once you know something is fake you do what is reasonable to make it right with your customer.
But you are right, I approached you about this opportunity because I felt like I could trust you to put a good product in the store. I am sure enough that you didn't produce a fake, and I know that once you know something is fake you do what is reasonable to make it right with your customer.
Okay, with that being said Chris. I at one time had to trust companies such as *** to not supply the market with fakes. If any of the items that were authenticated by *** are in question that is not totally my fault. As you have clearly stated, so I am not trying to come accross as taking offense. Now when I get something in a large collection that is certed by ***, I bring the items to Jsa or Psa for authenticity. As far as the topps photo shoots, I am not an authenticator so I am pretty sure it is fair to say that many people have bought and sold these photoshoots under the clear pretense that the item either has a sticker on it or is well know to be a pack pulled item. Am I wrong for assuming? Yes I am. As far as patches are concerned, I look in depth at the edges of the place where the patch is placed, yet I cannot assume that all nice patches are fake. To bring up a clear example, (the Matthew Stafford Sp authentic) that I bought, that I sold, that was fake, that I didnt complete the transaction with, and contacted the person via the phone and discussed the card with him. It was brought to my attention that the card was fake, and I made it %100 right for all parties. Now to touch the subject of buyback cards. Upper deck and Topps are well known for buyback autographs from past products that they will put in newer issue products. From past experience if the item has a certificate or a sticker from the company I was under the impression that the item was legitimate, was I wrong? Yes I was. I have been in touch with TOPPS and UPPER DECK to verify items and to send pictures to them directly. I am very careful now as I obviuosly was not in the past. Do I still buy photo shoots, yes I do. Do I sell them if they come in a big collection, yes I do. They were produced by topps only as an autographed version. Like I said and I will say again, I am not an authentication company. Yet as far as the other items in question, I have definitely been more careful. Thanks, Evan CBP
Just one other thing, are all nice pathes fake, no. Are there some out there that are, yes. Are there some buybacks out there fake, yes. Are most of the buybacks out there fake, no. Does PSA authenticate things that JSA will not, yes. Will JSA authenticate things that PSA will not, yes. This is a clear example of an expert opinion, (key word opinion). Valid opinion which holds weight in this hobby that we all are a part of. I feel the longer I am in the hobby, the better opinion I will have, and the less mistakes I will make. This is an even clearer example on ME admitting to not being perfect and attempting to do everything I can to make sure another error whether it be a purchase or sale does not occur again.
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Yes, you have DEFINITELY been more careful in the past couple of years. I would not have went to you with this offer if I didn't feel that you currently do things the right way.
Okay, everyone in this hobby that has done this for a living or for that matter, even for a long time, has sold something fake or tampered or trimmed or authenticated by a company when another company says it is not real. Does that make it right, H E double hockey sticks NO. What makes the person or seller (for lack of better terms) a good guy, is what he does about the issue when it is brought to his attention. Every dealer or customer, unfortunately, has had or knows somebody that has had an issue with sending a card to beckett and beckett stating the card was trimmed, or refurbished. That doesnt make the seller of that item the culprit. If a patch was not pulled by you or someone in front of you is it fake, is it a good assumption that all nice patches are fake. I would say no. Yet if any of you were at a show, and saw a nice patch numbered to 10 out of exquisite and the patch window looks clean, like it came straight from the factory and you wanted it, you would more than likely buy it for the right price. Which normally means less that ebay to resell it to make a dollar. Almost of the customers I see and know of at shows are looking for a deal, something they can resell, that is what this hobby has become. The collectors for the most part are gone. %80 of the time you get ebay prices or more than average ebay prices for an item, believe it or not is on EBAY. So am I guilty of selling things that turned out to have issues over the past 7 years and over 500,000 items sold, the answer is yes. Was I or am I the source of the issue, the answer is no. Take what you all may want from this statement, I just hope that you all read it completely.
jimmyjam1973
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Good LORD people drop it already. Gilmo is the owner and let him do what he wants with the shop. If you want to buy one of Evan's cards, great, if not don't, then just move along. Like I've said already, I've know Evan ever since I moved to the ATL almost 5 years ago and I have never had a issue with any purchases I've made from him, or sales I've made to him.
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hofmichael
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Not that I approve or disapprove of this guy but who really gives a **REDACTED****REDACTED****REDACTED****REDACTED**?Ultimately it is Chris reputation if something goes wrong so I am sure he has his own best interests in mind.Besides he gets to see everything that is put in the store so he can reject something if it isn't right.
Erich
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I have sold to Evan and bought from him at the ATL shows. I honestly believe that he is not out to eff anybody. I also KNOW Chris would not ruin his reputation if thought anything different.
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It does matter, and i felt the need to disclose this information because if you are reading this, your opinion matters to me.
matfanofold
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We all know the interwebs can be like witch hunts and some who hold a grudge based on Evans history (as they preceive it) may see this as a reason to not buy from FCB anymore, and although I think that would be rash, to each their own. Chris is obviously smart enough to know this and appreciates the dynamic of full disclosure before someone has a oppertunity to call 'foul play' like it is some sort of conspiracy. Having said that, if this is what it takes for Chris to continue to put food on his table then more power to him. I am aware as anyone of Evans past and never a single case have I seen that indicated he was intentionally scamming. To understand the volume he buys/sells is to understand the fact that things will slip through the cracks from time to time and he put it best when he said that we should not judge based on the mistake but rather how it is handled afterwards.
I wish them both the best and personally could not imagine having to make a living in such a fickle business.
I wish them both the best and personally could not imagine having to make a living in such a fickle business.
mchenrycards
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As a former shop owner I know how much your reputation can affect store traffic. There are so many things that can make customers skittish about frequenting a card shop that the owner really needs to decide if a move he is about to make will increase or deter traffic coming through the door. Having a reputation as a pack searcher before putting packs for sale can kill that foot traffic (Using this as an example and certainly not calling anyone a pack searcher). Being known as potentially selling altered cards, in my opinion will have less of an impact of foot traffic. I honestly think it is a non-issue because locals who will be shopping the store don't have as much knowledge of these types of issues as they are casual collectors who buy what strikes them in the store. The only potential I see for an issue is if these casual collectors do some web searching and find this type of thread which will cause them question their purchases.
I know nobody asked me but, even though I don't know Evan, he does have a previous reputation which he has worked hard to overcome. Chris needs to be prepared for a little bit of a blow back on this issue but I don't think it will hurt business unless something is sold in his shop that proves to be altered or not authentic. In the end, this move will provide a greater selection of singles in the store and provide more eye candy for the shopping experience. As long as extreme steps are taken to insure the authenticity of the items for sale, there should be zero negative impact on foot traffic in the store in my opinion.
I know nobody asked me but, even though I don't know Evan, he does have a previous reputation which he has worked hard to overcome. Chris needs to be prepared for a little bit of a blow back on this issue but I don't think it will hurt business unless something is sold in his shop that proves to be altered or not authentic. In the end, this move will provide a greater selection of singles in the store and provide more eye candy for the shopping experience. As long as extreme steps are taken to insure the authenticity of the items for sale, there should be zero negative impact on foot traffic in the store in my opinion.
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westerngac
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oh...okay.
So Evan purchased every single card that was listed on Burge's NARU'd eBay account shortly after the account was cancelled and listed them all immediately?
Why would anyone think there's a connection between them?
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That isn't exactly how it went down.
