Clayton Kershaw

[Metz1405]

after his big game what do you guys expect from him the rest of the year?

 

[J.O.]

he has a nasty breaking ball and he's on my fantasy team. that's all i know

 

[pujolsjunkie]

13-8, 3.65 ERA, 175 Ks in 180 IP

 

[Bigfan5]

13-8, 3.65 ERA, 175 Ks in 180 IP

I'd say that about right +/- 2 wins.

 

[vetsgt02]

I picked him for my long shot for the Cy young to start the season and I am sticking with it I think he can still win rookie of the year as well.

 

[darocker80]

I picked him for my long shot for the Cy young to start the season and I am sticking with it I think he can still win rookie of the year as well.

not legible for ROY

so far he's pitched two amazing games and 2 ND. Don't think he'll get lots of wins or a cy young, but tons of Ks and an above average ERA

 

[Bigfan5]

I picked him for my long shot for the Cy young to start the season and I am sticking with it I think he can still win rookie of the year as well.

not legible for ROY

so far he's pitched two amazing games and 2 ND. Don't think he'll get lots of wins or a cy young, but tons of Ks and an above average ERA

Agree with you there. Also, at 21 years old he'll be on a short leash as far as innings/pitches. Until he learns to just pitch and not nibble he'll still walk a lot of guys which will further decrease his chances for the CY or a lot of wins for that matter.

 

[darocker80]

I picked him for my long shot for the Cy young to start the season and I am sticking with it I think he can still win rookie of the year as well.

not legible for ROY

so far he's pitched two amazing games and 2 ND. Don't think he'll get lots of wins or a cy young, but tons of Ks and an above average ERA

Agree with you there. Also, at 21 years old he'll be on a short leash as far as innings/pitches. Until he learns to just pitch and not nibble he'll still walk a lot of guys which will further decrease his chances for the CY or a lot of wins for that matter.

Yes, ala tim lincecum. Babied him until like 3/4 way into the season when they let him get his first shut out

 

[vetsgt02]

well in both of his starts he has pitched 105 pitches which is a pretty good amount. He only walked 1 yesterday but he was pitching against the Giants so those game stats could of been inflated. I really hope he can at least make the all star game but of course none of it will matter if he gets no run support. I do not claim to know half as much about this stuff as alot of you guys so I am speaking as a hopeful fan and not from actual knowledge so please forgive me if I come across niave or out of touch :?

 

[darocker80]

well in both of his starts he has pitched 105 pitches which is a pretty good amount. He only walked 1 yesterday but he was pitching against the Giants so those game stats could of been inflated. I really hope he can at least make the all star game but of course none of it will matter if he gets no run support. I do not claim to know half as much about this stuff as alot of you guys so I am speaking as a hopeful fan and not from actual knowledge so please forgive me if I come across niave or out of touch :?

Its alright, you're just a very supportive fan of a very young and talented pitcher.
(Even though I don't make numerous threads/posts about Lincecum I am always harrased for being a fan of his...and sometimes very inapropriatley)

Even though he is a dodger I am a huge fan of him and his stuff.

 

[MallCopKJ]

Unfortunately I see a lot of 4.2 inning, 100 pitch preformances. He walks a lot of guys and uses a lot of pitches doing it. Last season he rarely went more than 5 innings with his pitch count and I think thats going to continue. Next year he should be very good though.

 

[excel_B]

Don't jinx the sophomore slump!!! I am not thinking about next year... Kershaw will improve in every game, and I am sure the manager / pitching coach has every right to be cautious. Hell, if I am the general manager, I would be watching every pitch he throws... He's primed to have a great career. Pretty of time to slow his process (no rush!).

 

[vetsgt02]

Unfortunately I see a lot of 4.2 inning, 100 pitch preformances. He walks a lot of guys and uses a lot of pitches doing it. Last season he rarely went more than 5 innings with his pitch count and I think thats going to continue. Next year he should be very good though.

I have not seen him walking alot of tguys this season so far (granted only been 2 starts) His pitch count is so high because he is a Strikeout pitcher what he needs to do is learn to let the ball go into play and let his lineup work a little. There is nothing wrong with strikout guys but it seems like he is tryign to K every single guy and that is hurting him from going deep into the game. I honestly think he is maybe 1-2 seasons away from being one of the top 4 pitchers in the game.

 

[cgilmo]

I have him as one of the most talented pitchers in the majors.


See sig for an article I wrote on him.

 

[vetsgt02]

that is a great write up!!!

 

[nborton]

Unfortunately I see a lot of 4.2 inning, 100 pitch preformances. He walks a lot of guys and uses a lot of pitches doing it. Last season he rarely went more than 5 innings with his pitch count and I think thats going to continue. Next year he should be very good though.

I have not seen him walking alot of tguys this season so far (granted only been 2 starts) His pitch count is so high because he is a Strikeout pitcher what he needs to do is learn to let the ball go into play and let his lineup work a little. There is nothing wrong with strikout guys but it seems like he is tryign to K every single guy and that is hurting him from going deep into the game. I honestly think he is maybe 1-2 seasons away from being one of the top 4 pitchers in the game.

That's always the issue with strike out pitchers. I think it all depends on when a pitcher comes to the realization that it's not necessary to strike everyone out, and that a ground ball in the first few pitches is necessary to make it through the game. While at the same time he still possesses the ability to get a K when he needs it.

When they understand that, they become dominant.

 

[Bigfan5]

Unfortunately I see a lot of 4.2 inning, 100 pitch preformances. He walks a lot of guys and uses a lot of pitches doing it. Last season he rarely went more than 5 innings with his pitch count and I think thats going to continue. Next year he should be very good though.

I have not seen him walking alot of tguys this season so far (granted only been 2 starts) His pitch count is so high because he is a Strikeout pitcher what he needs to do is learn to let the ball go into play and let his lineup work a little. There is nothing wrong with strikout guys but it seems like he is tryign to K every single guy and that is hurting him from going deep into the game. I honestly think he is maybe 1-2 seasons away from being one of the top 4 pitchers in the game.

That's always the issue with strike out pitchers. I think it all depends on when a pitcher comes to the realization that it's not necessary to strike everyone out, and that a ground ball in the first few pitches is necessary to make it through the game. While at the same time he still possesses the ability to get a K when he needs it.

When they understand that, they become dominant.

That's exactly what's happened with Billingsley. It's taken him a little time to figure things out and until now he's survived on stuff alone. Now that he's got a better command of the game the strikeouts are still coming but he's also able to pitch strategically when needed. The same thing will happen with Kershaw and his feel for the game will only help to set up his curveball better while making his fastball still buzz.