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According to mlb.com, Price, Brignac, and others were optioned to AAA today. Anybody else surprised? I'm shocked.

Sorry if this has already been posted!
 

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WJCIII said:
Jaypers said:
Not shocked at all. It was inevitable.

Now, I will be shocked if Hammel wins the spot over Niemann.



Article - http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090325&content_id=4065994&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

How was it inevitable? Just curious.

They were saying on ESPN yesterday that the Rays manager and front office were saying that they want Price in a regular rotation so they can call him up in 3-8 weeks. I personally would not be suprised if it was a move similar to what they did with Longoria so that they can put off arbititration for a year.
 

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WJCIII said:
Jaypers said:
Not shocked at all. It was inevitable.

Now, I will be shocked if Hammel wins the spot over Niemann.



Article - http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090325&content_id=4065994&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

How was it inevitable? Just curious.
Maddon has consistently said there is still stuff he needs to work on. Garza, Kazmir, Shields and Sonnanstine are all locks for the rotation, leaving one spot for Niemann/Hammel/Price. Since Niemann has nothing left to prove, he should get that fifth spot.
 

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I know exactly where I'll be heading the first couple of weeks of the AAA season.

Hopefully I'll be able to get my custom cards of Price finished and can get them signed :D
 

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it will be good for him, kind of longoria last season. get a little bit of extra work in and build up a little confidence by beating up on some AAA players. then after 4-6 starts price will be confident and motivated and come up and be ready. not that he isnt ready now, just no room for him
 

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abncollectsautos said:
it will be good for him, kind of longoria last season. get a little bit of extra work in and build up a little confidence by beating up on some AAA players. then after 4-6 starts price will be confident and motivated and come up and be ready. not that he isnt ready now, just no room for him

There is room for him, the team is just being cheap.
 

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cowboysrule48 said:
abncollectsautos said:
it will be good for him, kind of longoria last season. get a little bit of extra work in and build up a little confidence by beating up on some AAA players. then after 4-6 starts price will be confident and motivated and come up and be ready. not that he isnt ready now, just no room for him

There is room for him, the team is just being cheap.
Maybe they are being cheap, but Niemann has earned his chance for the last spot in the rotation since 05. His body of work is much greater than Price's as a pro.
 

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KandKCards said:
cowboysrule48 said:
abncollectsautos said:
it will be good for him, kind of longoria last season. get a little bit of extra work in and build up a little confidence by beating up on some AAA players. then after 4-6 starts price will be confident and motivated and come up and be ready. not that he isnt ready now, just no room for him

There is room for him, the team is just being cheap.
Maybe they are being cheap, but Niemann has earned his chance for the last spot in the rotation since 05. His body of work is much greater than Price's as a pro.

From what I have read, they are leaning toward Hammel as the #5, and putting Niemann in the pen. That would piss me off as a Rays fan. I agree if not Price, it needs to be Niemann. However, I also think a team that came so close to winning it all last year shouldn't be trying to save money, by not putting their best team out there. They play in the toughest division in recent history, and even if they lose just one more game in April because they didn't have Price, that may be one too many.
 

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KandKCards said:
cowboysrule48 said:
abncollectsautos said:
it will be good for him, kind of longoria last season. get a little bit of extra work in and build up a little confidence by beating up on some AAA players. then after 4-6 starts price will be confident and motivated and come up and be ready. not that he isnt ready now, just no room for him

There is room for him, the team is just being cheap.
Maybe they are being cheap, but Niemann has earned his chance for the last spot in the rotation since 05. His body of work is much greater than Price's as a pro.

I dont believe in "earning" anything in that sense. Price is a better pitcher right now than Niemann, and therefore he has "earned" that spot. I believe that Niemann is a better pitcher than Sonnanstine, however, so its kind of a moot point in my mind.
 

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i would like to see it go to nieman or price, i dont have a clear cut favorite nor do i really care, the other four are so good they could have percival be the number 5 for a period of time just to have fun. just kidding

unfortunately it doesnt really matter what any of us think, maddon is the one making the call.
 

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The #4 starter is not used all that much in the first 3 weeks due to days off. Also April usually results in rain out again making the #5 not that useful. I would rather see Price getting regular work in the minors, and the Rays being able to keep Niemman and hammels.

If they are planning on trading one, it gives them more time, and keeping both gives them a little extra insurance incase one of their starts gets injured early in the season.

I am a huge price fan, and agree with the move. I would prefer to see Niemann get a chance to start for a bit. He takes way too long to warm up and can not hold on a base runner. Doesn't sound like a RP to me.

Also how is this moving making the Rays look cheap. Last time they did a similiar move (Longoria) they signed him to a long term deal
 

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Huffamaniac said:
The #4 starter is not used all that much in the first 3 weeks due to days off. Also April usually results in rain out again making the #5 not that useful. I would rather see Price getting regular work in the minors, and the Rays being able to keep Niemman and hammels.

If they are planning on trading one, it gives them more time, and keeping both gives them a little extra insurance incase one of their starts gets injured early in the season.

I am a huge price fan, and agree with the move. I would prefer to see Niemann get a chance to start for a bit. He takes way too long to warm up and can not hold on a base runner. Doesn't sound like a RP to me.

Also how is this moving making the Rays look cheap. Last time they did a similiar move (Longoria) they signed him to a long term deal


If that deal was in place before the season started, do you think he still would have started the season in AAA?
 

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I am not sure, but i am leading towards yes. I think it is a good idea to have your #5 starter start the season in the minors if he is young and inexperienced to get regular work. Niemann is out of options. He is too talented to be let go, or traded for a fraction of his value.



cowboysrule48 said:
Huffamaniac said:
The #4 starter is not used all that much in the first 3 weeks due to days off. Also April usually results in rain out again making the #5 not that useful. I would rather see Price getting regular work in the minors, and the Rays being able to keep Niemman and hammels.

If they are planning on trading one, it gives them more time, and keeping both gives them a little extra insurance incase one of their starts gets injured early in the season.

I am a huge price fan, and agree with the move. I would prefer to see Niemann get a chance to start for a bit. He takes way too long to warm up and can not hold on a base runner. Doesn't sound like a RP to me.

Also how is this moving making the Rays look cheap. Last time they did a similiar move (Longoria) they signed him to a long term deal


If that deal was in place before the season started, do you think he still would have started the season in AAA?
 

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Huffamaniac said:
I am not sure, but i am leading towards yes. I think it is a good idea to have your #5 starter start the season in the minors if he is young and inexperienced to get regular work. Niemann is out of options. He is too talented to be let go, or traded for a fraction of his value.



cowboysrule48 said:
Huffamaniac said:
The #4 starter is not used all that much in the first 3 weeks due to days off. Also April usually results in rain out again making the #5 not that useful. I would rather see Price getting regular work in the minors, and the Rays being able to keep Niemman and hammels.

If they are planning on trading one, it gives them more time, and keeping both gives them a little extra insurance incase one of their starts gets injured early in the season.

I am a huge price fan, and agree with the move. I would prefer to see Niemann get a chance to start for a bit. He takes way too long to warm up and can not hold on a base runner. Doesn't sound like a RP to me.

Also how is this moving making the Rays look cheap. Last time they did a similiar move (Longoria) they signed him to a long term deal


If that deal was in place before the season started, do you think he still would have started the season in AAA?

I completely agree. I do think that Price will not be the #5 starter by the end of the year though. He is just way too talented.
 

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I am not a big fan on Sonnastine.

I would love to see a rotation of Kazmir, Shields, Garza, Price and Niemann

Jays_Cards said:
Huffamaniac said:
I am not sure, but i am leading towards yes. I think it is a good idea to have your #5 starter start the season in the minors if he is young and inexperienced to get regular work. Niemann is out of options. He is too talented to be let go, or traded for a fraction of his value.



cowboysrule48 said:
Huffamaniac said:
The #4 starter is not used all that much in the first 3 weeks due to days off. Also April usually results in rain out again making the #5 not that useful. I would rather see Price getting regular work in the minors, and the Rays being able to keep Niemman and hammels.

If they are planning on trading one, it gives them more time, and keeping both gives them a little extra insurance incase one of their starts gets injured early in the season.

I am a huge price fan, and agree with the move. I would prefer to see Niemann get a chance to start for a bit. He takes way too long to warm up and can not hold on a base runner. Doesn't sound like a RP to me.

Also how is this moving making the Rays look cheap. Last time they did a similiar move (Longoria) they signed him to a long term deal


If that deal was in place before the season started, do you think he still would have started the season in AAA?

I completely agree. I do think that Price will not be the #5 starter by the end of the year though. He is just way too talented.
 

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Huffamaniac said:
I am not a big fan on Sonnastine.

I would love to see a rotation of Kazmir, Shields, Garza, Price and Niemann

Jays_Cards said:
Huffamaniac said:
I am not sure, but i am leading towards yes. I think it is a good idea to have your #5 starter start the season in the minors if he is young and inexperienced to get regular work. Niemann is out of options. He is too talented to be let go, or traded for a fraction of his value.



cowboysrule48 said:
Huffamaniac said:
The #4 starter is not used all that much in the first 3 weeks due to days off. Also April usually results in rain out again making the #5 not that useful. I would rather see Price getting regular work in the minors, and the Rays being able to keep Niemman and hammels.

If they are planning on trading one, it gives them more time, and keeping both gives them a little extra insurance incase one of their starts gets injured early in the season.

I am a huge price fan, and agree with the move. I would prefer to see Niemann get a chance to start for a bit. He takes way too long to warm up and can not hold on a base runner. Doesn't sound like a RP to me.

Also how is this moving making the Rays look cheap. Last time they did a similiar move (Longoria) they signed him to a long term deal


If that deal was in place before the season started, do you think he still would have started the season in AAA?

I completely agree. I do think that Price will not be the #5 starter by the end of the year though. He is just way too talented.

Once again, exactly what I think...
 

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