Dayummm!......what to do?

[Bruin7]

For JP, I think anytime you can make a $400 flip you should do it.

But as far as Blowout's prices, people need to consider that they're probably paying what you and I are for cases which increases their costs. They probably went through their 1st and 2nd initial buys a month ago.

Allen

 

[Jaypers]

The decision is almost as whiny as someone showing off an ebay steal they got and then asking if they should keep the card or sell it for profit - it's very dramatic with an almost teenage quality to it - I think they call it "histrionic".

Is this directed at me?

 

[brouthercard]

The decision is almost as whiny as someone showing off an ebay steal they got and then asking if they should keep the card or sell it for profit - it's very dramatic with an almost teenage quality to it - I think they call it "histrionic".

Is this directed at me?

No, it's directed at all those folks who are showing off that they got a terrific price on an item, but then are clueless as to what to do with it, as if they bought it in the first place to simply just "be cool". Kind of like that rich kid who got a steal on an expensive sports car at his uncle's dealership, but doesn't know how to drive it and ends up just keeping it in the garage. Real cool.

 

[hive17]

Ask yourself this: if you found a popular case for 25% less than market, a steal, would you bust it, since you have less invested in it and can take a risk? Yes? Then bust your discounted case.

I had a second point and I've totally spaced it... ::facepalm::

 

[mredsox89]

For JP, I think anytime you can make a $400 flip you should do it.

But as far as Blowout's prices, people need to consider that they're probably paying what you and I are for cases which increases their costs. They probably went through their 1st and 2nd initial buys a month ago.

Allen

I paid roughly $800 per on two cases. If I could get $1200 after all fees and shipping for one, I would move it instantly. But at the current prices, my profit wouldn't even half of that.

 

[brouthercard]

I'm going to go ahead and do the unthinkable- I'm actually going to crack my case regardless of what the price may be when the product is live.

 

[hail2thevictors]

If you are in this hobby for the money, you MUST sell it.

If you actually enjoy opening packs, looking at the cards, and are excited about the opportunity to pull some nice new shiny stuff, crack it.

It's not rocket science.

Sure, it's not rocket science.

But it's also not as clear cut as you make it out to be. In a perfect world, I would buy as many cases as I wanted, without worrying about spending money. Sorry, but I don't have money coming out of my ears. I bought these cases assuming I'd have a good chance to rip and flip most of the stuff, while keeping some stuff for my PC(a guy in the base set is a PC guy).

Obviously it isn't as simple as you put it-because 3 of us(and probably many many more) are in the same boat. It's hard to turn down $200+ profit on a case-but obviously the ripper in us wants to open the cases, too. It's just a matter of choice-rip and hope for the best, or just sell and take the money. For me, I'm not sure how much it would take profit wise to just flip the case without opening it-that is what I am trying to figure out.

Last-if people are paying $1,000+ for a case(which isn't a sure bet, but possible), I'm not sure there is $1,000 in value in these cases on average. I certainly couldn't see myself paying $1,000 for a case-so at that point, is it smart to crack the cases?

If you don't pull a Stras autographed parallel card, or a Bryce harper blue or better, you are going to lose money. That's pretty easy to figure out.

If you intend to rip this product, it doesn't matter what the "street value" is, you are going to rip it - that's how people who like to bust wax think.

If you are so tight about a couple hundred dollars making or breaking your budget, you should sell. Why would you want to take a chance of losing $300 on your case, if you really don't have that much money to mess around with. Go pay off your bills and stop gambling your children's college tuition.

It's as simple as that.

The decision is almost as whiny as someone showing off an ebay steal they got and then asking if they should keep the card or sell it for profit - it's very dramatic with an almost teenage quality to it - I think they call it "histrionic".

You sure know an awful lot about me, for not knowing a single thing.

This isn't about "gambling my kids tuition", and please-that is just stupid talk. Go take that garbage somewhere else, would ya?

Back to the topic-I know without a doubt in my mind I will make back the $$ invested($715ish per case) if I rip. And, there's a great chance I do well profit wise, and hopefully hit a few PC cards. However, turning down $200+ profit, and not having to deal with sorting, scanning, shipping, etc-that might be too good to pass up.

I respect your opinion-but if you think the decision is so easy, just bit your tongue and move on. Obviously the decision isn't easy-Jaypers started a thread about it, and I am right with him in terms of where I stand with this.

No one here is whining, or bragging about getting it at a price way less than what it's going at now. Sorry, I thought this was a message board of fellow collectors who are very quick and kind to give advice-OH, wait, IT IS! I must have missed in the fine print that one is not allowed to ask a question on this site.
Get a grip. If you don't have a place in the thread-DON'T POST IN IT.

 

[mredsox89]

If you are in this hobby for the money, you MUST sell it.

If you actually enjoy opening packs, looking at the cards, and are excited about the opportunity to pull some nice new shiny stuff, crack it.

It's not rocket science.

Sure, it's not rocket science.

But it's also not as clear cut as you make it out to be. In a perfect world, I would buy as many cases as I wanted, without worrying about spending money. Sorry, but I don't have money coming out of my ears. I bought these cases assuming I'd have a good chance to rip and flip most of the stuff, while keeping some stuff for my PC(a guy in the base set is a PC guy).

Obviously it isn't as simple as you put it-because 3 of us(and probably many many more) are in the same boat. It's hard to turn down $200+ profit on a case-but obviously the ripper in us wants to open the cases, too. It's just a matter of choice-rip and hope for the best, or just sell and take the money. For me, I'm not sure how much it would take profit wise to just flip the case without opening it-that is what I am trying to figure out.

Last-if people are paying $1,000+ for a case(which isn't a sure bet, but possible), I'm not sure there is $1,000 in value in these cases on average. I certainly couldn't see myself paying $1,000 for a case-so at that point, is it smart to crack the cases?

If you don't pull a Stras autographed parallel card, or a Bryce harper blue or better, you are going to lose money. That's pretty easy to figure out.

If you intend to rip this product, it doesn't matter what the "street value" is, you are going to rip it - that's how people who like to bust wax think.

If you are so tight about a couple hundred dollars making or breaking your budget, you should sell. Why would you want to take a chance of losing $300 on your case, if you really don't have that much money to mess around with. Go pay off your bills and stop gambling your children's college tuition.

It's as simple as that.

The decision is almost as whiny as someone showing off an ebay steal they got and then asking if they should keep the card or sell it for profit - it's very dramatic with an almost teenage quality to it - I think they call it "histrionic".

You sure know an awful lot about me, for not knowing a single thing.

This isn't about "gambling my kids tuition", and please-that is just stupid talk. Go take that garbage somewhere else, would ya?

Back to the topic-I know without a doubt in my mind I will make back the $$ invested($715ish per case) if I rip. And, there's a great chance I do well profit wise, and hopefully hit a few PC cards. However, turning down $200+ profit, and not having to deal with sorting, scanning, shipping, etc-that might be too good to pass up.

I respect your opinion-but if you think the decision is so easy, just bit your tongue and move on. Obviously the decision isn't easy-Jaypers started a thread about it, and I am right with him in terms of where I stand with this.

No one here is whining, or bragging about getting it at a price way less than what it's going at now. Sorry, I thought this was a message board of fellow collectors who are very quick and kind to give advice-OH, wait, IT IS! I must have missed in the fine print that one is not allowed to ask a question on this site.
Get a grip. If you don't have a place in the thread-DON'T POST IN IT.

It's funny, I actually get relaxed and almost enjoy sorting. So long as I have something interesting on TV while I'm doing it, its not bad at all. I also don't normally do more than 1 case so I'm sure getting to 5+ cases makes it much worse.

 

[hail2thevictors]

The decision is almost as whiny as someone showing off an ebay steal they got and then asking if they should keep the card or sell it for profit - it's very dramatic with an almost teenage quality to it - I think they call it "histrionic".

Is this directed at me?

No, it's directed at all those folks who are showing off that they got a terrific price on an item, but then are clueless as to what to do with it, as if they bought it in the first place to simply just "be cool". Kind of like that rich kid who got a steal on an expensive sports car at his uncle's dealership, but doesn't know how to drive it and ends up just keeping it in the garage. Real cool.

LOL. Way to back track there, very nice.

How is this not directed at Jaypers? Would love to hear your story on that.

And yeah-this is so much like a kid that got a steal on an expensive car at his uncles dealership, but doesn't know how to drive and it and keeps it in the garage-because we all know someone who has done that, right? Quite the epic fail there.

 

[brouthercard]

The decision is almost as whiny as someone showing off an ebay steal they got and then asking if they should keep the card or sell it for profit - it's very dramatic with an almost teenage quality to it - I think they call it "histrionic".

Is this directed at me?

No, it's directed at all those folks who are showing off that they got a terrific price on an item, but then are clueless as to what to do with it, as if they bought it in the first place to simply just "be cool". Kind of like that rich kid who got a steal on an expensive sports car at his uncle's dealership, but doesn't know how to drive it and ends up just keeping it in the garage. Real cool.

LOL. Way to back track there, very nice.

How is this not directed at Jaypers? Would love to hear your story on that.

And yeah-this is so much like a kid that got a steal on an expensive car at his uncles dealership, but doesn't know how to drive and it and keeps it in the garage-because we all know someone who has done that, right? Quite the epic fail there.

I know one guy in town, and i'm sure you all know the same kind of guy. He has some money, and he likes to invest in cases cause he thinks it's a better profit maker than stocks or whatever. So he buys 10 cases of bowman products every year, ever since 2006. And he just puts them away. He wouldn't know the difference between Cameron Maybin and Cameron Garfield. He calls around to different shops, and asks the dealers what the latest hot products are. He doesn't care about the sport, doesn't follow any of the players, but just buys bowman products because those are the "best money makers." So he got lucky on his 07 draft, recouping some losses. He's stuck with a boatload of 2008 chrome. And he has no idea how any of the cards or players are doing during the season, just relies on Beckett arrows. Just clueless as to what to do, and he has too much money.

My point: Know your stuff, and don't rely on others to make a decision on what to do. I'm assuming JP has some vested interest in some of the players on the checklist. I'm sure he has done his share of research about who the sleepers are, who to sell immediately upon release, and who to stock up on. He was just amazed at the case prices, and he expressed his surprise by posing these questions. Others have given me the impression that they just picked up these cases cause the board says this is the hottest thing to get. Do your research and make your own decisions.

How in the world is anyone else supposed to tell you that $250 profit is enough, but $175 isn't?

My decision and opinion on this situation? I'm cracking my case.

Just crack the product cause you got a good price, or just sell it and take in your couple hundred bucks. The is essentially the same sentiment as All the hype on the first page - he summed it up pretty succinctly there.

Does everyone need to make a new reply on whether or not they should buy or sell a card? There have been hundreds of posts like this, and i'm sure i'm not the only one who is tired of seeing them. And that's why I don't comment on them anymore except for the occasional "sell".

 

[hail2thevictors]

The decision is almost as whiny as someone showing off an ebay steal they got and then asking if they should keep the card or sell it for profit - it's very dramatic with an almost teenage quality to it - I think they call it "histrionic".

Is this directed at me?

No, it's directed at all those folks who are showing off that they got a terrific price on an item, but then are clueless as to what to do with it, as if they bought it in the first place to simply just "be cool". Kind of like that rich kid who got a steal on an expensive sports car at his uncle's dealership, but doesn't know how to drive it and ends up just keeping it in the garage. Real cool.

LOL. Way to back track there, very nice.

How is this not directed at Jaypers? Would love to hear your story on that.

And yeah-this is so much like a kid that got a steal on an expensive car at his uncles dealership, but doesn't know how to drive and it and keeps it in the garage-because we all know someone who has done that, right? Quite the epic fail there.

I know one guy in town, and i'm sure you all know the same kind of guy. He has some money, and he likes to invest in cases cause he thinks it's a better profit maker than stocks or whatever. So he buys 10 cases of bowman products every year, ever since 2006. And he just puts them away. He wouldn't know the difference between Cameron Maybin and Cameron Garfield. He calls around to different shops, and asks the dealers what the latest hot products are. He doesn't care about the sport, doesn't follow any of the players, but just buys bowman products because those are the "best money makers." So he got lucky on his 07 draft, recouping some losses. He's stuck with a boatload of 2008 chrome. And he has no idea how any of the cards or players are doing during the season, just relies on Beckett arrows. Just clueless as to what to do, and he has too much money.

My point: Know your stuff, and don't rely on others to make a decision on what to do. I'm assuming JP has some vested interest in some of the players on the checklist. I'm sure he has done his share of research about who the sleepers are, who to sell immediately upon release, and who to stock up on. He was just amazed at the case prices, and he expressed his surprise by posing these questions. Others have given me the impression that they just picked up these cases cause the board says this is the hottest thing to get. Do your research and make your own decisions.

How in the world is anyone else supposed to tell you that $250 profit is enough, but $175 isn't?

My decision and opinion on this situation? I'm cracking my case.

Just crack the product cause you got a good price, or just sell it and take in your couple hundred bucks. The is essentially the same sentiment as All the hype on the first page - he summed it up pretty succinctly there.

Does everyone need to make a new reply on whether or not they should buy or sell a card? There have been hundreds of posts like this, and i'm sure i'm not the only one who is tired of seeing them. And that's why I don't comment on them anymore except for the occasional "sell".

I actually follow minor league baseball, and prospects, QUITE a bit. I know the sleepers in the product, the guys I think should be sold early, etc. I am a baseball nut, so to say. I don't follow hockey at all-but you don't see me cracking hockey cases, and asking for hockey advice. I stick to what I know.

I have done my research, but here is a bit of advice for you(which I doubt you will take, because you know it ALL): no matter what you think, it's always good to have as many opinions on something as possible. You may not end up taking anything from what people say, but it never hurts to listen.

Your sentiment is known-enough out of you in this thread. Leave the posts to people who want to actually contribute to the thread.

 

[darocker80]

sell boxes till you reach how 750 (how much you are into them) and then bust the rest?

 

[Randy Shields]

It's getting harder and harder for me to want to break my 2010 Bowman Jumbo case when it arrives. Paid 750 for it a few weeks ago.

And now?

Blowout is now asking $930 per 12-box Hobby case, and $1135 per 8-box Jumbo case.

They were $100 cheaper on Jumbos this morning, FYI. Clearly, this stuff is flying.

Dayummm! I guess there's always a 1st for everything!

Do you still set up at occasional shows Dude? That would be a good way to move them a bit lower without munching on the fees, shipping, ect., AND not send the attendees into BO price shock. This is of course if you don't Bust them!!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

So long as Topps keeps their sole license, this may be the last product that is competitively priced for pre-sale. There's no reason for the big guys -- Blowout, Atlanta, etc., to take a minimal profit on presale on almost any product whenit's obvious that ANY product will sell for more than it did a year or two ago because they're the only game in town.

 

[Randy Shields]

I see your point Jeff, that is if Topps doesn't overproduce the hell out of it. Even more so than up to this point.

 

[Jaypers]

It's getting harder and harder for me to want to break my 2010 Bowman Jumbo case when it arrives. Paid 750 for it a few weeks ago.

And now?

Blowout is now asking $930 per 12-box Hobby case, and $1135 per 8-box Jumbo case.

They were $100 cheaper on Jumbos this morning, FYI. Clearly, this stuff is flying.

Dayummm! I guess there's always a 1st for everything!

Do you still set up at occasional shows Dude? That would be a good way to move them a bit lower without munching on the fees, shipping, ect., AND not send the attendees into BO price shock. This is of course if you don't Bust them!!

I haven't set up at a show in more than 10 years now.

At some point it just got old, sitting there and selling virtually nothing all day (and btw, my prices were more than reasonable). Unfortunately, not many customers were interested in buying rookie cards around this neck of the woods.

 

[Randy Shields]

It's getting harder and harder for me to want to break my 2010 Bowman Jumbo case when it arrives. Paid 750 for it a few weeks ago.

And now?

Blowout is now asking $930 per 12-box Hobby case, and $1135 per 8-box Jumbo case.

They were $100 cheaper on Jumbos this morning, FYI. Clearly, this stuff is flying.

Dayummm! I guess there's always a 1st for everything!

Do you still set up at occasional shows Dude? That would be a good way to move them a bit lower without munching on the fees, shipping, ect., AND not send the attendees into BO price shock. This is of course if you don't Bust them!!

I haven't set up at a show in more than 10 years now.

At some point it just got old, sitting there and selling virtually nothing all day (and btw, my prices were more than reasonable). Unfortunately, not many customers were interested in buying rookie cards around this neck of the woods.

Yes, now I remember you telling me that the shows around there weren't that great. I guess I should have assumed that they wouldn't get any better.

Maybe you'd have better luck in Baltimore.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I see your point Jeff, that is if Topps doesn't overproduce the hell out of it. Even more so than up to this point.

I don't think that 2010 Topps is a limited print run, yet it's going crazy.

The point was made in anothe rpost. With limited product, everything's going sky high for the rippers. Unfortunately, the singles aren't following suit with limited exceptions.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Prices mostly rose because of the popularity of the giveaway promotion.

I don't think that 2010 Topps is a limited print run, yet it's going crazy.

The point was made in anothe rpost. With limited product, everything's going sky high for the rippers. Unfortunately, the singles aren't following suit with limited exceptions.

 

[brouthercard]

Another idea- sell the case, and use your profits to stock up on 2-3 different guys. Essentially free investment money. And it won't matter what the final checklist shows. You are protected both ways, and really can't lose any money that way. JP, I thought you were done opening cases several years back?