Eagles...McCoy...what!?

[MrMet]

Wondering what Eagles fans are thinking about this...

 

[AnthonyCorona]

Wow

 

[gt2590]

Well, he is a Chip guy.

Can't blame this one on Roseman! :lol:

 

[Hawk8]

As someone who took McCoy in the first round of last years fantasy football draft, I can't say I'm surprised lol

 

[pudge27t]

Yea Idk what they are doing over there! Crazy..

 

[David Campos]

Chip was not a fan of the Marcus Smith pick. McCoy was the 2nd highest paid running back after AP. Alonzo is also an Oregon alum as well and played with Kelly. I knew Shady was going to be a cap casualty but didn't expect it until next year. I'm not sure about Mariotta as well. Gonna be an interesting month leading up to the draft. They are clearing a lot of money with the release of Cary Williams, Herremans, Trent Cole, and now McCoy.

Rumors are they may go after McCourty or Revis once he is let go by New England. We shall see how they do in 2015. Back to back years of 10-6 is good but they need to win the division next year. Dallas is going to fall back to the pack as well without Murray and possibly losing Free on the O-line.

 

[maxe0213]

Love the deal as an Eagles fan. People are looking at it like McCoy for Alonso when thats not what the deal is. We are saving around 8 million off the cap by trading mccoy and its rumored that the Eagles were going to Cut McCoy if they couldn't get a deal done. Alonso and Kendricks at LB? Sign me up.

This is set up to be a huge offseason for philadelphia with around 50 million in cap space!

 

[Ashburn Alley]

Love the deal as an Eagles fan. People are looking at it like McCoy for Alonso when thats not what the deal is. We are saving around 8 million off the cap by trading mccoy and its rumored that the Eagles were going to Cut McCoy if they couldn't get a deal done. Alonso and Kendricks at LB? Sign me up.

This is set up to be a huge offseason for philadelphia with around 50 million in cap space!

This is what I was thinking after I let the shock wear off. It all depends on what they do with this cap room.

Another thing being overblown is the # of former Oregon players on the roster. How many are actually expected to contribute? Not many.

 

[gt2590]

It's still an awful deal for the Iggles IMO.

You HAVE to get a high Pick, at least a 3rd, preferably a 2nd, which in Buffalo's spot would be perfect to draft a good RB in a deep draft for that position.

As far as trading him in the first place, I wouldn't have.

His running style and wiry frame make for a lot less hits than most RBs. Heck, he had 1300+ yards, most of it in last 7 games with back-up QB and was 6th in League in a "down" year...

 

[maxe0213]

It's still an awful deal for the Iggles IMO.

You HAVE to get a high Pick, at least a 3rd, preferably a 2nd, which in Buffalo's spot would be perfect to draft a good RB in a deep draft for that position.

As far as trading him in the first place, I wouldn't have.

His running style and wiry frame make for a lot less hits than most RBs. Heck, he had 1300+ yards, most of it in last 7 games with back-up QB and was 6th in League in a "down" year...

Smh.

Running Backs ALWAYS age quicker than every other position. McCoy had a cap hit around 9 million or so. Offense was FAR from the issue last year and McCoy had a very average year. I, and many other eagles fans, were tired of the dancing and east west running in the backfield and him alone putting us into 2nd and 3rd and long situations. Initially, I was pretty shocked. But Alonso is an absolute stud if he can come back (which he likely will, the injury isn't a massive deal for that position). Hes younger, has a bigger impact, and is way cheaper.

Not many teams coming off a solid year have 50 million in cap room like the eagles do. Running backs are MUCH easier to replace than LB's. With Alonso and Kendricks we will likely have one of the best front 7's in the NFL.

As long as we can solidify our corner situation and NOT TRADE UP FOR MARIOTA then we will be much improved.

You can do a TON with 50 million in cap room.

 

[maxe0213]

This is what I was thinking after I let the shock wear off. It all depends on what they do with this cap room.

Another thing being overblown is the # of former Oregon players on the roster. How many are actually expected to contribute? Not many.

Yeah exactly. Who cares how many oregon players are on the roster. He's not signing scrubs who played at oregon. He's going after solid guys he knows can fit in the system (Kiko).

 

[gt2590]

Smh.

Running Backs ALWAYS age quicker than every other position.

Not many teams coming off a solid year have 50 million in cap room like the eagles do. Running backs are MUCH easier to replace than LB's.

As long as we can solidify our corner situation and NOT TRADE UP FOR MARIOTA then we will be much improved.

1. You didn't read my saying that McCoy's frame and style will age him much better than most RBs.

2. McCoy is a top 3 RB, Kiko is not (at least right now) a top 10 LB. And don't forget he's coming off his 2nd Torn ACL.

3. Rumor has it they are going to trade up for MM IF he falls to the Jets at #6 .

 

[CollectorsCorner]

Shady is not a current top 3 back...

 

[gt2590]

Shady is not a current top 3 back...

Who you got?

I got AP (and he's going to play?) ahead of him. That's about it. Personally, I'd take "Shady" over Lynch. Charles, Bell, Lacy, Murray and Forte are a notch below IMO.

Heck, he was 3rd in rushing with a mis-matched line, the Sanchize's not-dangerous arm and with Sproles and Polk taking carries...

 

[u2me57]

It's still an awful deal for the Iggles IMO.

You HAVE to get a high Pick, at least a 3rd, preferably a 2nd, which in Buffalo's spot would be perfect to draft a good RB in a deep draft for that position.

As far as trading him in the first place, I wouldn't have.

His running style and wiry frame make for a lot less hits than most RBs. Heck, he had 1300+ yards, most of it in last 7 games with back-up QB and was 6th in League in a "down" year...

Yeah, I think it's a bad deal for the Eagles but I hope I'm wrong. McCoy is only 26 and he got those 1300+ rushing yards behind a messed up offensive line. Yes, we cleared out a lot of cap space but also a lot of talent. I hope Alonso turns out to be a good linebacker and has completely healed from his serious knee injury.

Being 50 million under the cap is great but there will be a lot of competition with teams even further under the cap, like the Raiders $64 million. Eagles are looking to take a DB in the 1st round and the Titans looking to take MM with the 2nd pick. Of course that could change. A Titans/Eagles trade would be cool. Chip Kelly would love to have Mariota as his QB, and the Titans, well they need help everywhere.

 

[maxe0213]

1. You didn't read my saying that McCoy's frame and style will age him much better than most RBs.

2. McCoy is a top 3 RB, Kiko is not (at least right now) a top 10 LB. And don't forget he's coming off his 2nd Torn ACL.

3. Rumor has it they are going to trade up for MM IF he falls to the Jets at #6 .

1. Yes I did read that. He takes a pounding just like everyone else. You see Jones Drew just retired at the age of 30? McCoy has MAYBE 3 good years left with a HUGE cap hit.

2. McCoy is not a top 3 RB after last year. He was easily in the 6-10 range but he did not have a great year last year. Most are tired of the crappy east and west running and dancing in the backfield. We would've made the playoffs had we had a back that could run the ball straight up the middle (ala Polk). Kiko is no doubt a top 10 LB if he performs how he did in 2013. This is not a huge injury for a LB. Many come back from this with no issues.

3. "Rumors." That would be an AWFUL trade. Foles behind center with a healthy O Line did very well for us. He should be there and we need to be drafting secondary help.

 

[gt2590]

3. "Rumors." That would be an AWFUL trade. Foles behind center with a healthy O Line did very well for us. He should be there and we need to be drafting secondary help.

They are alot more than rumors at this point but I do agree there is no reason to move on from Foles at this point, especially if it costs you a ton of picks.

And McCoy was not the reason they missed the playoffs. Their lack of a deep passing game in the 2nd half of the season and their putrid pass defense are to blame IMO.

 

[maxe0213]

They are alot more than rumors at this point but I do agree there is no reason to move on from Foles at this point, especially if it costs you a ton of picks.

And McCoy was not the reason they missed the playoffs. Their lack of a deep passing game in the 2nd half of the season and their putrid pass defense are to blame IMO.

It had nothing to do with our passing game. There were NUMEROUS games where we had short yardage gains needed to seal the game and instead of pouding it with a power back we play action'ed out ot he shot gun. McCoy was not the reason thye missed the playoffs but he contributed.

This is a good trade. And if you realistically think it is a bad trade you don't know the basics of it. Saving money, trading a back at peak value, and getting a young cost controlled STUD is a fantastic trade. I know this isn't the end all and be all but ESPN graded the trade an A for the Eagles and a C for the Bills. I'll value their opinion a bit more than yours bud.

 

[gt2590]

This is a good trade. And if you realistically think it is a bad trade you don't know the basics of it. Saving money, trading a back at peak value, and getting a young cost controlled STUD is a fantastic trade. I know this isn't the end all and be all but ESPN graded the trade an A for the Eagles and a C for the Bills. I'll value their opinion a bit more than yours bud.

IDK who you were watching but I have not seen one commentator on either network give this trade to the Iggles.

And we'll just have to agree to dis-agree...

 

[maxe0213]

They are alot more than rumors at this point but I do agree there is no reason to move on from Foles at this point, especially if it costs you a ton of picks.

And McCoy was not the reason they missed the playoffs. Their lack of a deep passing game in the 2nd half of the season and their putrid pass defense are to blame IMO.

But yes I think we both agree that a Mariota trade is f ing ridiculous right now. Foles has played very good in his action. He just didn't have an O Line last year.