hive17
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And lets remember that eBay allows you to list for free for a bazillion reasons. Now we're gonna have a problem with them trying to get something from an auction? Seems dumb.
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eBay Fall Seller Update - Fee for ending auctions early.
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sportscardtheory
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Enjoy less listings at higher prices. I love it when people actually call for and support getting XXXXed in the ass.
Musial Collector
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David, its pretty apparent what FCB stands for in this thread.What's that stand for again?
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hive17
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Since no one is getting XXXXed in the ass here, you have nothing to love in this instance.
sportscardtheory
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Is this supposed to be humor? :???:
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When using eBay's turbo lister, I caught errors after items were listed and have had bids. The errors were with the pictures being of another item. I am almost 100% that is was the TL. If the error is caught 2-3 days in to a 5 day auction, I don't want to cancel the bids to revise and then have it run only 2 days with the correction. The auction is ended and re-listed for the full 5 days. Other than that, I don't end items early.
No, based on this:
The fee will equal the amount of the final value fee had the listing ended naturally and sold for the highest bid received when the seller ended the listing.
You are charged what the high bid was when you end the auction. If the high bid is $0.99, you're charged on that. If it's $25, you're charged on that amount.
Ultimately, good move by eBay from a business perspective. I still don't agree with all the changes they've made recently, but this is a good one for them and hopefully for buyers, cause there's nothing I hate more than having a bid on an auction and then the seller ends with no explanation (likely to sell offline).
hive17
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It is, until you can explain how eBay is wrong here. You haven't by the way. I've shown YOU how you are wrong in your assertion that eBay is XXXXing people over, when the reality is that eBay is stopping people from XXXXing eBay over.
So you're saying that if I agree to take my item to an auction house, allow them to run the auction, that it's okay for me to tell them to stop the auction three-quarters of the way through, and then say "no thanks" and turn around and sell it to the person at the auction house who was going to buy it, and then not pay auction house anything??
Ebay is an online auction house. By selling on ebay, you are agreeing to the fees to list the item and the fees to sell the items. Cancelling an auction to sell offline is circumventing the rules that YOU agree to by listing your item. Hell, if ebay didn't allow you to cancel auctions at all (outside of unforseen circumstances, such as the natural disaster example), I'd be okay with that too.
sportscardtheory
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If you decide not to sell something, you should not be charged a fee when you have already paid listing fees. eBay does not know what happens in people's personal lives. They have no right to decide or care if you are selling stuff away from eBay. It's not their business. It's MY/YOUR XXXX. All this does is negatively affect people who have valid reasons to end auctions early. It's punishing everyone for the acts of a minority. Don't act like I or ANYONE else owes eBay a damn thing. I sell MY stuff, not eBay's stuff. They are just a vessel, they don't sell XXXX. Bite my hand enough and I will bite back. They will understand that anti-seller terms of service will never be good in the long run, regardless of opinions like yours. You probably don't even sell auction format on eBay.
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hofmichael
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When you open your onlione auction site I will be signing up.Until then we have Ebay and the rules they have for their site.
hive17
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2 things, and I'll keep it simple
1) You're right, YOU choose the terms of YOUR items that YOU are selling. But as soon as you involve eBay, it's BOTH of your terms. The ONLY way eBay can't tell you how to sell your item ON EBAY is if you don't sell it AT ALL on eBay. So, the solution for you is: don't involve eBay. Then you can have your Smeagol attitude all you want. I don't know how you can say it's not their business when you are involving the business that is eBay?
2) You are conviently ignoring the fact that eBay doesn't charge listing fees for millions of items. The average hobbyist (you know, the people on this board you feel the need to belittle) don't pay auction fees for 50 items a month. You're probably not addressing that fact because it guts your silly arguement. So, with no up-front fees, if you end an auction and sell off-line, YOU are the one screwing eBay over. You are taking advantage of the exposure they give you, then giving them nothing for that service.
Also, I sell about 5-10 things a month on eBay, so I'm not speaking for the store-owners/dealers; just the common lister (who you are mostly arguing with).
Here endeth the lesson. Come back to me with anything else you're having trouble grasping...
mlbsalltimegreats
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I think the one of the Best rules they are forcing is - Sell More with More Pictures! Now that pictures are FREE (Motors Vehicles excluded), load up! Starting in October, new listings and relistings will be required to include a picture, with additional picture requirements coming in 2013. That means Burbank will no longer be able to list without Pictures.
sportscardtheory
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Nice lesson. I didn't learn anything.
You just don't get it. eBay is creating terms of service which make it less attractive to sell on their site. No XXXX that it's their site and they can do what they want. You really think I don't realize that. My point is that the harder they make it sell, the less people will sell, meaning there will be less to buy, etc...
It's not rocket science. I know I will think twice about listing anything of value at a $.99 auction. What if something happens to the card? I'm stuck paying a fee for something I couldn't sell? Brilliant.
hive17
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Clearly you haven't learned anything...
And no, you weren't making the "There-will-be-less-on-eBay-because-it-sucks-now" argument until maybe your 7th post. You started out with some asinine legality question. If you knew what YOU were talking about, then maybe someone else might be able to follow you.
And it's just your opinion that it will make it harder to sell. If buyers respond positively to this and run to eBay even more, then whatever problems you might have will be wiped away by new buyers, and new demand; which equals more money.
But you're right in the point you're whining about now: if every eBay seller has a pink-***** meltdown like you did, then, yes, there will less to buy...
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hive17
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Oh lord. Have a nice day, friend.
I LOVE "Hum" BTW...
I used "Stars" to get chicks in high school in the mood...
sportscardtheory
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I'm hoping to someday get to one of their yearly reunion shows around Chicago.
Ebay doesn't give a rats @$$ about sellers. All they want to do is make money(which is why they are in business), can't fault them for that. When they started, they were seller friendly. They started losing buyers and business to other sites. They chose to solve this by becoming buyer friendly. The theory behind this was simple. If we have buyers, then we will have sellers. They are currently, way to buyer friendly. They continue to raise fees. They keep making sellers jump through hoops to keep their 20% discount. These new policies are just more of the same, protect the buyer, keep the buyer happy, and make more money. The bottom line is ebay sucks, it has become much like our gov., over regulated and taxed. But, and its a big but, it's their game. As I was told by one of their employees, "where else are ya gonna go." That's their attitude toward sellers. You need us, more than we need you. I'd write more, but I gotta go list stuff.
