FFL: Who woud you play

[The_ReverendAct2]

We are getting into the bye part of the season and fortunately I took that into consideration when I did my draft. I sure hope D-Nab is able to go in week 5 because Rodgers is off. This week I have to make a decision on a couple of people.

QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB #1: MJD
RB #2: Fred Jackson/LEon Washington/Buckhalter
RB/WR Flex: Leon Washington
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Devin Hester/Kenny Britt/Welker [I hate that Q by his name cost me points week 2]
TE: Dallas Clark
DEF: Ravens
Kicker Hanson

Thoughts I am already projected to win with the players in the first position.

 

[TonyButlerStopSuckin]

What is your scoring system?? Any points per receptions or return yards?? From everything I've heard so far Welker will play. Not sure how much or if he will be completely healthy though. I'm a little concerned about how many carries Lynch will steal from Fred Jackson. Add to that the Dolphins have given up under 200 yards rushing for the season and Jackson might not be a great start.

Assuming everyone is healthy I'd start:
RB:MJD
RB:Leon
WR:Smith
WR:Hester
WR/RB:Welker

 

[rymflaherty]

I def. like Hester out of the WR group
I probably like Washington out of the backs......You have to figure Ryan's plan is going to be to run a ton to keep the ball out of Brees's hands, so there should be enough carries to go around and if NO goes up big I'd guess they'll go with Washington in the backfield for his receiving and big play ability over Jones.

As for the Flex - I'd keep a close eye, even right up to game time on Welker's status....if he's going to play I'd probably go with him, as Brady will have to rely on the short passses against the Baltimore D. If not then it's probably whomever you like most between Buckhalter/Jackson.

 

[The_ReverendAct2]

What is your scoring system?? Any points per receptions or return yards?? From everything I've heard so far Welker will play. Not sure how much or if he will be completely healthy though. I'm a little concerned about how many carries Lynch will steal from Fred Jackson. Add to that the Dolphins have given up under 200 yards rushing for the season and Jackson might not be a great start.

Assuming everyone is healthy I'd start:
RB:MJD
RB:Leon
WR:Smith
WR:Hester
WR/RB:Welker

Points for yards [every 10 = 1, but not receptions]; return yards count toward ST, so can't get those for Hester

 

[TonyButlerStopSuckin]

Points for yards [every 10 = 1, but not receptions]; return yards count toward ST, so can't get those for Hester

I was thinking more for Washington. With the way Cutler is playing and how bad Detroit's pass D is Hester is a must start. I think you have to sit Fred Jackson. Miami's nasty D and splitting carries are too worrisome for me.

 

[bodiaz]

Assuming everyone is healthy I'd start:
RB:MJD
RB:Leon
WR:Smith
WR:Hester
WR/RB:Welker


I agree with this, except replace Leon Washington with Fred Jackson.

Henne is going to turn the ball over, and because of that Buffalo will be working with a lead. Jackson should get alot of touches. The Jets are going to be behind and throwing, meaning less touches for Washington. In fact, I think there is a great chance of the Jets being blown out by the Saints! The blitz packages are really going to force Sanchez into some rookie mistakes.

Hester and Welker should have huge weeks!

 

[The_ReverendAct2]

2 point loss. I still cannot believe that Hester got ZERO point yesterday. Rodgers did everything he could to get me a win [can the TE catch the TD]. If only I would have gone with my sleeper [Britt] but just couldn't bring myself to sit Hester. JAckson instead of Washington would have gotten me the win. Oh well, my son won a game he should not have won based on the matchup, but things happen. Now 2-2 vs being 3-1.

edit: hester got hurt early. can't factor that in fantasy. oh well.

 

[bodiaz]

I couldn't have been more wrong on the Bills, and couldn't have been more right on the Saints! Dick Jauron is one of the worst coaches ever.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

2 point loss. I still cannot believe that Hester got ZERO point yesterday. Rodgers did everything he could to get me a win [can the TE catch the TD]. If only I would have gone with my sleeper [Britt] but just couldn't bring myself to sit Hester. JAckson instead of Washington would have gotten me the win. Oh well, my son won a game he should not have won based on the matchup, but things happen. Now 2-2 vs being 3-1.

edit: hester got hurt early. can't factor that in fantasy. oh well.

I responded to someone else's post about starting D.Hester for this past weekend telling them to bench Hester. Sure you really can't forecast an injury correctly but you can see that Hester clearly does not carry the high value billing as a starting fantasy WR that many experts had claimed he would coming into the season (& some experts are still clinging to that notion, which IMO is silly even without the injury). D.Hester "could" show fantasy owner's he belongs in thier #2 WR spot "IF" Jay Cutler decides that Hester is his #1, but as it stands Hester has been overshadowed as the Bears #1 WR by Cutler's college mate & friend, Earl Bennett. Thus far Hester might even be as far down as #4 on Cutler's list of passing target's as E.Bennett, J.Knox, & G.Olsen all have Cutler's attention at the moment (& although I understand Knox received the majority of his 5 catches "after" D.Hester left the game, Knox was targetted twice & pulled in 1 "before" Cutler ever threw Hester's way). Now I wouldn't say Forte is above Hester on Cutler's passing priorities at the moment but in the future this could very well be so too!

Anyhow this is just a bit of what I've observed thus far, along with a bit of my own speculation & opinion mixed in (take from it what you will). I definitely wouldn't drop Hester in a deep league but if you're in a 10-team league that has a shallow bench (meaning there are still alot of quality player's on the Waiver-Wire) & have player's like B.Berrian, Mario Manningham, or even Earl Bennett; then I'd definitely cut Hester loose & snag one of those guy's (& after last night's showing especially Berrian, as it now seems that he & Favre are on the same page & even though he's got Harvin & S.Rice to throw to, Berrian "right now" is far & away the better all-around WR of the bunch...I say "right now" as with experience & knowledge of his route's & opposing defensive coverage scheme's, P.Harvin could be a true NFL & fantasy FB elite WR...I'd be all over Harvin in a keeper league)!
Take care & Good Luck everyone, Dave.

 

[TonyButlerStopSuckin]

2 point loss. I still cannot believe that Hester got ZERO point yesterday. Rodgers did everything he could to get me a win [can the TE catch the TD]. If only I would have gone with my sleeper [Britt] but just couldn't bring myself to sit Hester. JAckson instead of Washington would have gotten me the win. Oh well, my son won a game he should not have won based on the matchup, but things happen. Now 2-2 vs being 3-1.

edit: hester got hurt early. can't factor that in fantasy. oh well.

I responded to someone else's post about starting D.Hester for this past weekend telling them to bench Hester. Sure you really can't forecast an injury correctly but you can see that Hester clearly does not carry the high value billing as a starting fantasy WR that many experts had claimed he would coming into the season (& some experts are still clinging to that notion, which IMO is silly even without the injury). D.Hester "could" show fantasy owner's he belongs in thier #2 WR spot "IF" Jay Cutler decides that Hester is his #1, but as it stands Hester has been overshadowed as the Bears #1 WR by Cutler's college mate & friend, Earl Bennett. Thus far Hester might even be as far down as #4 on Cutler's list of passing target's as E.Bennett, J.Knox, & G.Olsen all have Cutler's attention at the moment (& although I understand Knox received the majority of his 5 catches "after" D.Hester left the game, Knox was targetted twice & pulled in 1 "before" Cutler ever threw Hester's way). Now I wouldn't say Forte is above Hester on Cutler's passing priorities at the moment but in the future this could very well be so too!

Anyhow this is just a bit of what I've observed thus far, along with a bit of my own speculation & opinion mixed in (take from it what you will). I definitely wouldn't drop Hester in a deep league but if you're in a 10-team league that has a shallow bench (meaning there are still alot of quality player's on the Waiver-Wire) & have player's like B.Berrian, Mario Manningham, or even Earl Bennett; then I'd definitely cut Hester loose & snag one of those guy's (& after last night's showing especially Berrian, as it now seems that he & Favre are on the same page & even though he's got Harvin & S.Rice to throw to, Berrian "right now" is far & away the better all-around WR of the bunch...I say "right now" as with experience & knowledge of his route's & opposing defensive coverage scheme's, P.Harvin could be a true NFL & fantasy FB elite WR...I'd be all over Harvin in a keeper league)!
Take care & Good Luck everyone, Dave.

To be fair going into the weekends game Hester was the Bears leader in receptions, yards and TDs and had had 2 good games so far during the year. Add in the Lions terrible pass defense and I'd say Hester, Bennett and Knox were all good starts. I'm still convinced that as long as he stays healthy, Hester will be the top Bears WR as the year goes on.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

2 point loss. I still cannot believe that Hester got ZERO point yesterday. Rodgers did everything he could to get me a win [can the TE catch the TD]. If only I would have gone with my sleeper [Britt] but just couldn't bring myself to sit Hester. JAckson instead of Washington would have gotten me the win. Oh well, my son won a game he should not have won based on the matchup, but things happen. Now 2-2 vs being 3-1.

edit: hester got hurt early. can't factor that in fantasy. oh well.

I responded to someone else's post about starting D.Hester for this past weekend telling them to bench Hester. Sure you really can't forecast an injury correctly but you can see that Hester clearly does not carry the high value billing as a starting fantasy WR that many experts had claimed he would coming into the season (& some experts are still clinging to that notion, which IMO is silly even without the injury). D.Hester "could" show fantasy owner's he belongs in thier #2 WR spot "IF" Jay Cutler decides that Hester is his #1, but as it stands Hester has been overshadowed as the Bears #1 WR by Cutler's college mate & friend, Earl Bennett. Thus far Hester might even be as far down as #4 on Cutler's list of passing target's as E.Bennett, J.Knox, & G.Olsen all have Cutler's attention at the moment (& although I understand Knox received the majority of his 5 catches "after" D.Hester left the game, Knox was targetted twice & pulled in 1 "before" Cutler ever threw Hester's way). Now I wouldn't say Forte is above Hester on Cutler's passing priorities at the moment but in the future this could very well be so too!

Anyhow this is just a bit of what I've observed thus far, along with a bit of my own speculation & opinion mixed in (take from it what you will). I definitely wouldn't drop Hester in a deep league but if you're in a 10-team league that has a shallow bench (meaning there are still alot of quality player's on the Waiver-Wire) & have player's like B.Berrian, Mario Manningham, or even Earl Bennett; then I'd definitely cut Hester loose & snag one of those guy's (& after last night's showing especially Berrian, as it now seems that he & Favre are on the same page & even though he's got Harvin & S.Rice to throw to, Berrian "right now" is far & away the better all-around WR of the bunch...I say "right now" as with experience & knowledge of his route's & opposing defensive coverage scheme's, P.Harvin could be a true NFL & fantasy FB elite WR...I'd be all over Harvin in a keeper league)!
Take care & Good Luck everyone, Dave.

To be fair going into the weekends game Hester was the Bears leader in receptions, yards and TDs and had had 2 good games so far during the year. Add in the Lions terrible pass defense and I'd say Hester, Bennett and Knox were all good starts. I'm still convinced that as long as he stays healthy, Hester will be the top Bears WR as the year goes on.

Actually Earl Bennett & Hester were tied at 13 receptions each up to this weekend & while Hester did have 2 solid games, in each of those E.Bennett was heavily utilized (actually moreso in Gm 1 where Bennett had 7 Rec to Hester's 4 rec, although Hester had better yardage & a TD Cutler was still looking to Bennett more often). In my post I am not saying in any way, shape, or form that Hester is the least talented of the WR group, but what I am saying is that a WR can have all the talent in the world & if a QB isn't leaning on them as thier go-to guy then all of that talent isn't going to do them a bit of good, now is it? If a QB is not an "elite" (Peyton, Brees, Brady) & they spread the ball around, that equation equals death for a WR in fantasy FB, which is why D.Hester shouldn't be considered a solid fantasy #2WR at the moment (there are far better option's out there for your #2 spot than Hester). What it comes down to at the moment is Hester (in fantasy term's at least) is overhyped!

As for the Lions terrible pass defense (it is not only a terrible pass defense but also a terrible run defense), I had put in my previous post that Hester would not be a good play because the Bears would be looking to get Forte going with the ground game (which is exactly what they did, they ran Forte early & he exploited a horrible defense). This was not a good week to play Hester & I said so before the game (& not because I envisioned an injury :lol: ). I knew this wouldn't be a high passing affair on the Bears part as they would get out ahead early & hope to protect thier lead by playing conservative FB (which for WR's in fantasy is usually not a recipe for success).

We'll see where the Bears go with Hester once he recovers but if they continue down the path they are currently on, it doesn't bode well for fantasy owner's who drafted Hester in hopes of receiving the production/value in which he was hyped up to produce!

 

[EricInCT]

What the heck is wrong with Bennett ::facepalm:: I have tons of his stuff......anyways,

Hey Rev....where is Pierre Thomas on your team :evil: I told you about him.

 

[The_ReverendAct2]

What the heck is wrong with Bennett ::facepalm:: I have tons of his stuff......anyways,

Hey Rev....where is Pierre Thomas on your team :evil: I told you about him.

he got drafted earlier then I thought. this week my wr choices are crazy
smith, breaston, britt, welker, white

 

[TonyButlerStopSuckin]

Actually Earl Bennett & Hester were tied at 13 receptions each up to this weekend & while Hester did have 2 solid games, in each of those E.Bennett was heavily utilized (actually moreso in Gm 1 where Bennett had 7 Rec to Hester's 4 rec, although Hester had better yardage & a TD Cutler was still looking to Bennett more often). In my post I am not saying in any way, shape, or form that Hester is the least talented of the WR group, but what I am saying is that a WR can have all the talent in the world & if a QB isn't leaning on them as thier go-to guy then all of that talent isn't going to do them a bit of good, now is it? If a QB is not an "elite" (Peyton, Brees, Brady) & they spread the ball around, that equation equals death for a WR in fantasy FB, which is why D.Hester shouldn't be considered a solid fantasy #2WR at the moment (there are far better option's out there for your #2 spot than Hester). What it comes down to at the moment is Hester (in fantasy term's at least) is overhyped!

As for the Lions terrible pass defense (it is not only a terrible pass defense but also a terrible run defense), I had put in my previous post that Hester would not be a good play because the Bears would be looking to get Forte going with the ground game (which is exactly what they did, they ran Forte early & he exploited a horrible defense). This was not a good week to play Hester & I said so before the game (& not because I envisioned an injury :lol: ). I knew this wouldn't be a high passing affair on the Bears part as they would get out ahead early & hope to protect thier lead by playing conservative FB (which for WR's in fantasy is usually not a recipe for success).

We'll see where the Bears go with Hester once he recovers but if they continue down the path they are currently on, it doesn't bode well for fantasy owner's who drafted Hester in hopes of receiving the production/value in which he was hyped up to produce!

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about Hester. A lot of the predictions I had read before the season had him at around 65 for 900 and 6 which is around where he will get to if he stays healthy.

I must say though that Chicago's passing game last week was done in by the Lions crappiness. On top of the KO TD return, the Bears had 5 drives start in Lions territory include 2 inside the 20 yard line. The game was within 13 points up until around 6 minutes left in the 4th and the Bears were throwing up until then. Forte actually had his least amount of carries all year and outside of the Steelers game, the Bears had there fewest rushing attempts all year. Cutler actually dropped back to pass 33 times, if you include sacks and Cutlers rushing attempts. He only handed the ball off 17 times.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about Hester. A lot of the predictions I had read before the season had him at around 65 for 900 and 6 which is around where he will get to if he stays healthy.

I must say though that Chicago's passing game last week was done in by the Lions crappiness. On top of the KO TD return, the Bears had 5 drives start in Lions territory include 2 inside the 20 yard line. The game was within 13 points up until around 6 minutes left in the 4th and the Bears were throwing up until then. Forte actually had his least amount of carries all year and outside of the Steelers game, the Bears had there fewest rushing attempts all year. Cutler actually dropped back to pass 33 times, if you include sacks and Cutlers rushing attempts. He only handed the ball off 17 times.

Yeah I guess we will have to agree to disagree (& judging by your response above I'm not sure you interpretted what I wrote above as I intended). I was saying all along that last week was not a great matchup for Hester in the passing game & injury or not it was not a good game in term's of passing for the Bears (basically what I underlined above was the point I was trying to make all along on why NOT to start Hester vs. the Lions if you have an alternative, the Lions do not provide the desired situational "shootout" that you look for when selecting your receiving options for fantasy purposes). While it may be good to start some #1 WR's on other team's, I do not agree that Hester is the Bears clear-cut #1 WR (please understand, I am speaking in term's of "fantasy" as there is a huge difference between term's from a fantasy perspective & that from a regular football perspective). Anyhow, Good Luck in your fantasy season & take care, Dave.

 

[AKA Coastal]

Bernard Berrian Or Patrick Crayton?

Julius Jones or Ahmad Bradshaw?

 

[AKA Coastal]

Would anyone trade Sims-walker for Celek and TO?

 

[Seiya]

Bernard Berrian Or Patrick Crayton?

Julius Jones or Ahmad Bradshaw?

I would go with crayton, because barber is still a little iffy. And Julius jones, Bradshaw gets yards but no tds.

And no way you trade walker for those two. TO sucks with Edwards throwing to him, and celek had one good game, I think.

 

[sffanmike25]

I would give Berrian a try against the Rams. It's really not a matter of if the Vikes score, just who. Berrian just got on track with Favre last week, so it could be more of the same.

As for Bradshaw and Jones, I'm not sure there. Would the Giants be more prone to run the ball with Eli being banged up?

Wouldn't do the Sims-Walker deal either.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

On the trade, if you are giving Sims-Walker & depending upon if you need a TE then "Yes" I would take TO & Celek for Sims-Walker.


Celek has been the #1 receiving target on a very potent & pass-heavy Eagles offense (he has 22 catches through 3 gms thus far, with 2 TD's to boot). He's 3-for-3 in having good games this season, 2 of which he broke 100 rec yds (he topped of one of those 100-yd performance's with a TD) & the other he had 6 rec/37 yds/TD- which is solid for a fantasy TE!

Wk 1: 6 rec's/37 yds/ TD
Wk 2: 8 rec's/104 yds
Wk 3: 8 rec's/ 104 yds/ TD
Wk 4- Bye

He shows to be getting better each week & as of now he sits in 3rd place for TE fantasy point's thus far, he only sits behind the likes of Dallas Clark & Antonio Gates (& you need to consider, Celek has sat out a week for his bye, while many other TE's have an extra week worth of fantasy points...He very well could be the #1 TE in fantasy if not for the bye week)!

As for TO, he has seen his yardage production increase a tic per week & I truly believe that Buffallo will cave to TO's will of being the "center of attention" on offense (they will continue to increase his workload & target's until the "crying" stops!

M.Sims Walker is the unheralded #1 in Jacksonville but other than this year (actually, other than the last 3 games) what has he done besides be injured??? These past 3 weeks of production have come against 3 of the worst defense's in the league this year (Arz, Hou, Ten) & I believe we will see Walker's production drop off once defense's focus in on him in the passing game! Take a look at what he did last year in the time that he wasn't hurt...there is nothing special there, & although he's provided solid production thus far I do believe it to be a product of being consistently fed the ball without drawing premiere coverage (which he will be drawing in the upcoming weeks now that opposing team's know the Jaguars intention's of using him as a prime offensive target).

If you have Vernon Davis or are able to pick him up on the FA/Waiver-Wire then I would probably keep Sims Waker & go that route...If not, make the trade (given you will not have to drop an additional "star" level fantasy player to allow you to accept a "2-for-1" trade)!