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Absolutely amazing. The Braves looked dead and buried two weeks ago or even just 4 days......Hanson ran his record to 11-4 and is now a lock for rookie of the year no matter what happens the rest of the season. In only 20 starts in the majors Hanson is 11-4 and two of those loses came in rain delays when he didn't return after the 2nd and 5th innning, not to mention the blown saves in his starts.

The thinking was once the Braves were eliminated from the wild card race Hanson would be shut down immediately to save his arm. Well he looked fresh and poised and except for a little rough 5th inning allowed just 4 hits in 7 innings striking out 7 and only throwing 97 pitches.....he gave his team the win and gave his bullpen the rest they need for the final week and a half.

Hanson has 11 less starts than Javier Vasquez and 12 less starts then Jair Jurgens yet he trails Vasquez by only 4 wins for team lead. Throw in the fact that he has a 1.50 ERA better than Derek Lowe (tied for the team lead with Vasquez with 15 wins) it shows you why he is the most important cog in their stretch run and will walk away with ROY honors.

Hanson may not pitch later this week due to being mathematically eliminated and AJ Happ for the Phillies will likely lead all rookies in wins (at home against a 8.44 ERA opponent Astros) , however Hanson amazing first year in the bigs will not be overlooked by voters.
 

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Votes. Will anyone get more votes than him? What will be voters' minds when they punch their ballots. It's been real close going into these last few weeks, but Hanson has very much helped himself by winning important games. Now Happ has also done that, but is his only remaining start going to be an important game? Probably not. I say Hanson would take about 40-50% of the 1st place votes right now. But we've still got a week to go.
 

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blitzerlover said:
Hanson also had an 8 inning shutout in which he got a ND.

Thus the comment about blown saves.....that Astros game they gave up 3 runs in the 9th on the road will come back to haunt this team.
 

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marterburn said:
Votes. Will anyone get more votes than him? What will be voters' minds when they punch their ballots. It's been real close going into these last few weeks, but Hanson has very much helped himself by winning important games. Now Happ has also done that, but is his only remaining start going to be an important game? Probably not. I say Hanson would take about 40-50% of the 1st place votes right now. But we've still got a week to go.


When was the last time Happ pitched an important game?
 

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EricInCT said:
marterburn said:
Votes. Will anyone get more votes than him? What will be voters' minds when they punch their ballots. It's been real close going into these last few weeks, but Hanson has very much helped himself by winning important games. Now Happ has also done that, but is his only remaining start going to be an important game? Probably not. I say Hanson would take about 40-50% of the 1st place votes right now. But we've still got a week to go.


When was the last time Happ pitched an important game?

well, he was out for little bit but he's helped maintain the cruise control since his 2 starts back came back. I can't count that as nothing.
 

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marterburn said:
EricInCT said:
marterburn said:
Votes. Will anyone get more votes than him? What will be voters' minds when they punch their ballots. It's been real close going into these last few weeks, but Hanson has very much helped himself by winning important games. Now Happ has also done that, but is his only remaining start going to be an important game? Probably not. I say Hanson would take about 40-50% of the 1st place votes right now. But we've still got a week to go.


When was the last time Happ pitched an important game?

well, he was out for little bit but he's helped maintain the cruise control since his 2 starts back came back. I can't count that as nothing.


I can.
 

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ROY has no bearing on team performance, it is a stat award. I haven't looked at stats, Hanson probably has better stats than Happ, I don't know, but it's on performance not who is pitching their team into the playoffs. That is more of an MVP-esque type of thing.

If that is the case, than Porcello should be AL ROY if the Tigers make the playoffs just cause he gave them about 15 wins.
 

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Johan Santana 57 said:
ROY has no bearing on team performance, it is a stat award. I haven't looked at stats, Hanson probably has better stats than Happ, I don't know, but it's on performance not who is pitching their team into the playoffs. That is more of an MVP-esque type of thing.

If that is the case, than Porcello should be AL ROY if the Tigers make the playoffs just cause he gave them about 15 wins.

Porcello has 6 wins in 4 months. I doubt it.
 

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EricInCT said:
Johan Santana 57 said:
ROY has no bearing on team performance, it is a stat award. I haven't looked at stats, Hanson probably has better stats than Happ, I don't know, but it's on performance not who is pitching their team into the playoffs. That is more of an MVP-esque type of thing.

If that is the case, than Porcello should be AL ROY if the Tigers make the playoffs just cause he gave them about 15 wins.

Porcello has 6 wins in 4 months. I doubt it.

Who is your AL ROY, just curious.
 

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In races this close, saying that either league's ROY or Cy Young award is a lock at this point is unrealistic.
 

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ALL_THE_HYPE said:
In races this close, saying that either league's ROY or Cy Young award is a lock at this point is unrealistic.


the OP just likes to say stuff, his past threads have shown he doesnt really look at numbers, he just says stuff. Hanson and Happ have basically put up the same numbers but for some reason Hansons are more impressive. Eric could be right but right now he's talking out of his "lack of knowledge"
 

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phillyfan0417 said:
ALL_THE_HYPE said:
In races this close, saying that either league's ROY or Cy Young award is a lock at this point is unrealistic.


the OP just likes to say stuff, his past threads have shown he doesnt really look at numbers, he just says stuff. Hanson and Happ have basically put up the same numbers but for some reason Hansons are more impressive. Eric could be right but right now he's talking out of his "lack of knowledge"

+1

Same guy that was pimping Brad Bergsesn as AL ROY a few months ago.
 

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pujolsjunkie said:
phillyfan0417 said:
ALL_THE_HYPE said:
In races this close, saying that either league's ROY or Cy Young award is a lock at this point is unrealistic.


the OP just likes to say stuff, his past threads have shown he doesnt really look at numbers, he just says stuff. Hanson and Happ have basically put up the same numbers but for some reason Hansons are more impressive. Eric could be right but right now he's talking out of his "lack of knowledge"

+1

Same guy that was pimping Brad Bergsesn as AL ROY a few months ago.


And he would have won if he didn't get hurt.
 

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phillyfan0417 said:
ALL_THE_HYPE said:
In races this close, saying that either league's ROY or Cy Young award is a lock at this point is unrealistic.


the OP just likes to say stuff, his past threads have shown he doesnt really look at numbers, he just says stuff. Hanson and Happ have basically put up the same numbers but for some reason Hansons are more impressive. Eric could be right but right now he's talking out of his "lack of knowledge"

While I agree that the OP is a giant tool, I have to agree Hanson's stats are more impressive. I know, I know..>I'm biased, but the following speaks for itself:

Both are 11-4, however, 2 of Happ's wins came in relief earlier in the year, making him 9-4 as a starter. Hanson has 107 K's in 120.2 innings, or about .9 an inning. Happ has 112 in 158.1 innings, or about .7 an inning. Hanson also edges Happ in WHIP 1.19 to 1.20. Of playoff contending (contending at the time they played) teams, Happ has beaten Florida, Colorado, and Atlanta. Hanson has beaten Yankees, Red Sox, San Fran, and Florida.
Really, the only knock I can find against Hanson is that 2 of his 4 losses came against Philly, otherwise, Hanson beats Happ hands down. If the ROY race comes down to those 2 (not sure if it will), then Hanson wins.
 

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EricInCT said:
pujolsjunkie said:
phillyfan0417 said:
ALL_THE_HYPE said:
In races this close, saying that either league's ROY or Cy Young award is a lock at this point is unrealistic.


the OP just likes to say stuff, his past threads have shown he doesnt really look at numbers, he just says stuff. Hanson and Happ have basically put up the same numbers but for some reason Hansons are more impressive. Eric could be right but right now he's talking out of his "lack of knowledge"

+1

Same guy that was pimping Brad Bergsesn as AL ROY a few months ago.


And he would have won if he didn't get hurt.


Not a chance in hell.





He might have finished 5th or 6th though.
 

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