HOLY SHINIKES!!!! NYJER MORGAN BRAWL IN MARLINS GAME!!!!!

[TomMurry]

People dont get baseball....
You dont steal when you are WINNING by 10 runs. When you are losing, you do anything you have to do to help your team score runs. Why would you give up and not try to put yourself into position to score? Thats just ridiculous.

 

[Hallsgator]

Volstad did have control.

He could have charged back and met him halfway but he looked scared.

You can't even see his face in the video when Morgan is charging. Fail.

It's pretty well known that the team protects the pitcher in the case of a fight, just like the pitcher protects his batters when they are thrown at.

 

[jbhofmann]

Volstad did have control.

He could have charged back and met him halfway but he looked scared.

You can't even see his face in the video when Morgan is charging. Fail.

It's pretty well known that the team protects the pitcher in the case of a fight, just like the pitcher protects his batters when they are thrown at.

Please only use the term "fail" when it is applicable.

I didn't need to see Volstad's face. He was sauntering away from the charging Morgan looking for help. Volstad needs to watch some tape of Kyle Farnsworth.

 

[pigskincardboard]

There's two sides of this story, obviously.

One is that the pitcher is merely an instrument for retaliation. Thus, the pitcher should be protected as all costs. On the other hand, if you're throwing a baseball at someone on purpose, you should suck it up.

One of these times, someone's going to get permanently ****** from a ball to the head or a punch to the face and I hope that he files criminal charges. It's pathetic that baseball and hockey showcase fighting as a rational means to resolve conflict.

 

[TomMurry]

Volstad did have control.

He could have charged back and met him halfway but he looked scared.

You can't even see his face in the video when Morgan is charging. Fail.

It's pretty well known that the team protects the pitcher in the case of a fight, just like the pitcher protects his batters when they are thrown at.

Please only use the term "fail" when it is applicable.

I didn't need to see Volstad's face. He was sauntering away from the charging Morgan looking for help. Volstad needs to watch some tape of Kyle Farnsworth.

Sounds like you didnt even see it and youre acting like you did.
1-You COULDNT see Volstad's face, so you saying he "looked scared" is incorrect
2-He didnt "saunter away." He wasnt looking for help. He threw his glove down and waited for Morgan to get there. Pitchers getting rushed are in defense, its not an offensive attack.

 

[jbhofmann]

Volstad did have control.

He could have charged back and met him halfway but he looked scared.

You can't even see his face in the video when Morgan is charging. Fail.

It's pretty well known that the team protects the pitcher in the case of a fight, just like the pitcher protects his batters when they are thrown at.

Please only use the term "fail" when it is applicable.

I didn't need to see Volstad's face. He was sauntering away from the charging Morgan looking for help. Volstad needs to watch some tape of Kyle Farnsworth.

Sounds like you didnt even see it and youre acting like you did.
1-You COULDNT see Volstad's face, so you saying he "looked scared" is incorrect
2-He didnt "saunter away." He wasnt looking for help. He threw his glove down and waited for Morgan to get there. Pitchers getting rushed are in defense, its not an offensive attack.

1. The clip of the fight is in this very thread. Watched it several times. Sorry for the confusion on your part.
2. Why not attack? The best defense is a good offense.

 

[TomMurry]

1. The clip of the fight is in this very thread. Watched it several times. Sorry for the confusion on your part.
2. Why not attack? The best defense is a good offense.

Good attempt in trying to cover the fact you're wrong. Now you're projecting why things didnt happen. Sounds like you never played much baseball. If theres any confusion, its you thinking throwing a glove down constitutes running away from a fight or is asking for help.

 

[sportscardtheory]

Volstad did have control.

He could have charged back and met him halfway but he looked scared.

You can't even see his face in the video when Morgan is charging. Fail.

It's pretty well known that the team protects the pitcher in the case of a fight, just like the pitcher protects his batters when they are thrown at.

Please only use the term "fail" when it is applicable.

I didn't need to see Volstad's face. He was sauntering away from the charging Morgan looking for help. Volstad needs to watch some tape of Kyle Farnsworth.

Wow. Really? So slamming your glove to the ground and starting to move offensively towards the guy running at you full speed is "sauntering away". You need your freaking eyes checked.

 

[lisu]

I dunno. I have no opinion about Morgan hurting the catcher who is heavily padded. That's part of baseball. It sucks but it happens. It's not like you're playing softball, and the rules are that you have to slide. All runners have had to do it at some time.

Stealing 2 bases when you're down 10 makes sense to me too. However, he deserved the beating he got when he charged the pitcher. Don't start anything unless you can handle it.

 

[Hallsgator]

Volstad did have control.

He could have charged back and met him halfway but he looked scared.

You can't even see his face in the video when Morgan is charging. Fail.

It's pretty well known that the team protects the pitcher in the case of a fight, just like the pitcher protects his batters when they are thrown at.

Please only use the term "fail" when it is applicable.

I didn't need to see Volstad's face. He was sauntering away from the charging Morgan looking for help. Volstad needs to watch some tape of Kyle Farnsworth.

Wow. Really? So slamming your glove to the ground and starting to move offensively towards the guy running at you full speed is "sauntering away". You need your freaking eyes checked.

Not to mention Volstad was throwing and landing punches on Morgan when they were on the ground. Yea, real scared.

 

[rymflaherty]

People dont get baseball....
You dont steal when you are WINNING by 10 runs. When you are losing, you do anything you have to do to help your team score runs. Why would you give up and not try to put yourself into position to score? Thats just ridiculous.

That's what I would have thought. Had never heard of, never thought you are not to steal when you are facing a big deficit. Seems a bit silly - stealing a couple bases could be a spark to at least get back into the game. Or if that really is an unwritten rule.....then I guess every runner who's taken second (or third) on defensive indiference in a 9th inning should be beaned.


That being said - you'd think Morgan would have shown a bit more common-sense. Maybe it's worth charging the mound over, maybe not......but with all the controversy and problems already surrounding him, no matter how upset he was, you'd think he'd realize it's not worth it and one of those times you have to suck it up and let it slide.

 

[morgoth]

Please only use the term "fail" when it is applicable.

Ok forum cop will do

 

[UMich92]

Two points need to be added and they both reflect poorly on Nyjer. First, when he bowled over the catcher the previous night he was tagged out. By all accounts, if he slides he would have been safe. So instead of scoring a run for your team he decides to try to take out the catcher. Second, in large blowouts team's don't try to hold runners on base and don't attempt pick-offs. In return, the runners don't try to steal. Like it or not, stealing in a blowout runs against baseball's unwritten rules.

 

[C-Note92]

Nyjer Morgan is one of the biggest ********** in Major League Baseball, there was absolutely no need for him to run over the catcher the night before and the fact that he's done it more than once shows that he clearly has issues. He deserved to be plunked more than once for that crap. He should be suspended for at least the rest of the season if not more, hopefully the Nats just release him. Props to Volstad for standing his ground and landing some punches on the *******.

 

[markakis8]

Two points need to be added and they both reflect poorly on Nyjer. First, when he bowled over the catcher the previous night he was tagged out. By all accounts, if he slides he would have been safe. So instead of scoring a run for your team he decides to try to take out the catcher. Second, in large blowouts team's don't try to hold runners on base and don't attempt pick-offs. In return, the runners don't try to steal. Like it or not, stealing in a blowout runs against baseball's unwritten rules.

I agree with your first and not the second. The point of every game is to win. If your team is losing by 10 runs in the 4th inning and they are just going to let you take extra bases, why not try to do everything you can to come back?

If they want to plunk me and give me THREE free bases, then I'm going to take them.

As I said earlier, I would completely understand the arguments if the Nats were winning by 10 and Nyjer stole 2nd and 3rd...

I'm just so surprised by how many Nancy's we have on this forum - many of whom probably never played baseball past high school. I feel sorry for you if you are a Marlins player/coach/fan whatever and you are winning by 10 or more runs and some guy steals 2 bases off of you and are crying like a girl....throw him out, pick him off...it's ******* baseball.

 

[jbhofmann]

1. The clip of the fight is in this very thread. Watched it several times. Sorry for the confusion on your part.
2. Why not attack? The best defense is a good offense.

Good attempt in trying to cover the fact you're wrong. Now you're projecting why things didnt happen. Sounds like you never played much baseball. If theres any confusion, its you thinking throwing a glove down constitutes running away from a fight or is asking for help.

Nope. Played for over 12 years.
The sauntering that I was referencing was him moving towards his help (Sanchez).