HOW ARE YOU DOING: SELLING WISE?

[HoustonTeams4Me]

What gets me the most is "why does it matter to anyone else if the seller sells his card or not"? That seems to be the argument that buyer's here are using (they all say, "Well I just pass up those sell listing's"...So if you do this, who is it hurting: you or the seller?)- So why does it matter if member's put price's next to "thier" item's or not?
There really is no argument for mandatory pricing, but I do understand those member's that don't want to "have" to list price's:

1) If member is openning up thier bucket to sell/trade (remember, this IS a trade board also; so are member's going to need to post sell value & trade value- depending on if they trade using BV? Because I'm certain that no one is going to buy something here for BV. Are these member's going to need to have price's in thier bucket now?

2) What if a member wants to get a feel for something that is rare (kicking the tire- as I've read on several occasion's on the board), as they aren't sure how much it'll go for so they'll be open to offer's....If they must put a price next to it then either they underprice & boom someone goes for the "steal" or they overprice & never get a response..

3) Dealing with prospect item's is a very fluctuating market & since we are "supposed" to only keep one active thread on the transaction board's we would have to "flip-flop" our price's when/if that prospect threw a no-hitter or hit the #1 spot in BA's Hot Sheet (which could very well lead to hard feeling's & possibly even negative feedback, depending upon how ticked the buyer is that thought they were landing a "steal" when they tried to swoop in & say I'll take that item for the price you have listed, while the seller replies: that was the price I put up "before" they threw a no-hitter earlier today, now they are selling for $*** :lol:

I guess the main reason this is a mute point is because everyone already voted in majority "against" this idea. This was just my opinion. Take care all!

 

[marterburn]

I haven't really tried to sell/trade on here in quite awhile, and on eBay I've just been running mostly auctions that I don't have a specific target price at which to end, in addition to fishing blindly with no expectation.

But, I did sell a Brett Cecil TOTC for 25. No big deal really, except it's the first time I've flipped a purchased card (as in, not pack pulled) for significant profit. And yes, I want a cookie for it being my first time.

 

[phillyfan0417]

I have noticed today that folks have started listing prices on their own, some pretty good prices, others not so much. Wish I had some money to spend...

 

[JVC]

What gets me the most is "why does it matter to anyone else if the seller sells his card or not"? That seems to be the argument that buyer's here are using (they all say, "Well I just pass up those sell listing's"...So if you do this, who is it hurting: you or the seller?)- So why does it matter if member's put price's next to "thier" item's or not?
There really is no argument for mandatory pricing, but I do understand those member's that don't want to "have" to list price's:

1) If member is openning up thier bucket to sell/trade (remember, this IS a trade board also; so are member's going to need to post sell value & trade value- depending on if they trade using BV? Because I'm certain that no one is going to buy something here for BV. Are these member's going to need to have price's in thier bucket now?

2) What if a member wants to get a feel for something that is rare (kicking the tire- as I've read on several occasion's on the board), as they aren't sure how much it'll go for so they'll be open to offer's....If they must put a price next to it then either they underprice & boom someone goes for the "steal" or they overprice & never get a response..

3) Dealing with prospect item's is a very fluctuating market & since we are "supposed" to only keep one active thread on the transaction board's we would have to "flip-flop" our price's when/if that prospect threw a no-hitter or hit the #1 spot in BA's Hot Sheet (which could very well lead to hard feeling's & possibly even negative feedback, depending upon how ticked the buyer is that thought they were landing a "steal" when they tried to swoop in & say I'll take that item for the price you have listed, while the seller replies: that was the price I put up "before" they threw a no-hitter earlier today, now they are selling for $*** :lol:

I guess the main reason this is a mute point is because everyone already voted in majority "against" this idea. This was just my opinion. Take care all!

I think the real problems are the sellers who request that buyers make the first offer. It doesn't bother me that sellers don't list the prices in their buckets or on the sell postings, but if I inquire about a card, I expect that the seller will have a ballpark price in mind. I am not going to bid against myself and make a higher offer than what I want to acquire the card for (which in some cases may be lower than the going market rate). I also don't want to waste my time going back and forth with a seller who may want way more than I am willing to pay for a card. If his price isn't within my range, I would like to save myself the hassle and just pass over it.

 

[lisu]

Cardboardbeautys seems to still have the ridiculous prices out there. I offered $200 for his BGS 9.5 BDP gold ref of Nick Noonan, and he countered for $400. I just decided to buy the raw for $125 that was up there.

 

[MOFNY]

Selling wise has been very very slow for me so far. My stash is still very high, but I've had almost no good selling opportunities.

 

[AKA Coastal]

The injury bug has hurt me this year ,but it's still early.

 

[AKA Coastal]

My sleepers have done better than my "blue chip" prospects this year ,but nothing has reached a level where it's worth cashing out.

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

use this formula for selling on FCB, it works quite well.


Average ebay minus 5 - 10%

I mean afterall, you don't have to pay ebay fees.

Well....reality is more like this:

When I look to buy offers are: (Highest eBay sale last two weeks) + (10% to 15%)

When I look to sell offers are: (Lowest eBay sale last two weeks) - (15% to 20%)

When I look to trade:
My card = Lowest eBay Sale
Their card = (Highest eBay Sale) + (50% premium for future potential)

If it is a player I collect and I want to buy: (High eBay sale) x (2 or 3)
No joke, happened to me twice....stupid donkey.

Dead on! I liquidated all of my prosepct stuff on here for 60-70% of what they go for on the bay, but I needed money at the time so I let everyone walk all over me.

I just don't like it when someone agrees to buy something, then 4 days later says they bought one for 4 bucks cheaper and backs out.

 

[Billy Packer]

use this formula for selling on FCB, it works quite well.


Average ebay minus 5 - 10%

I mean afterall, you don't have to pay ebay fees.

I was actually thinking about posting something about this yesterday.

When you sell on FCB, you don't have to pay eBay fees. If this is the case, why in the world is it fair for you to try to charge eBay prices (or more)?


If you charge about 5% less than ebay, then both parties win because the buyer gets the card for less than they'd have to pay on ebay, and the seller sells the card for more than they would get from ebay after fees.

It's not too complicated, but lots of people on FCB don't seem to use this pricing technique which results in minimal transactions.

As much as this is a problem, its not the most annoying thing I run into. My favorite is "I want to get out of it what I have in it"

Seriously? I should pay you a premium because a card you paid 100 for a card that now sells for 80...

unreal

Unfortunately that's not only true here though. It's also the most common rationale I get for unreasonably high pricing expectations on ebay bin/bo's as well.

 

[mredsox89]

I'll post back here in the next few days. Im going to list a ton of cards with prices in a transaction thread later tonight so hopefully i get a few bites.

 

[studioclint]

check my thread in the transaction forum


I listed cards for what they would go for on ebay with consideration for me not having to pay fees.



Sold 3 big cards within an hour.

Nice to see someone posting their best possible prices. That is the way every for sale post should be. Any post that is selling cards without prices should be removed. It just wastes everyone's time otherwise.

I agree. I have seen things I wanted but I am not going to PM back and fourth a bunch of times and make offers. I want a price listed to start maybe we can negotiate from there.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

check my thread in the transaction forum


I listed cards for what they would go for on ebay with consideration for me not having to pay fees.



Sold 3 big cards within an hour.

Nice to see someone posting their best possible prices. That is the way every for sale post should be. Any post that is selling cards without prices should be removed. It just wastes everyone's time otherwise.

I agree. I have seen things I wanted but I am not going to PM back and fourth a bunch of times and make offers. I want a price listed to start maybe we can negotiate from there.

So in your case you either didn't get what you wanted (as you did not want to put forth the effort to enter negotiation's, I'm just going off of what you wrote above: "I have seen things I wanted but I am not going to PM back and fourth a bunch of times and make offers") or you went somewhere else & purchased the item from another seller...So in what way, shape, or form were you at a loss by seller's not putting up price's on thier item's (& who made the choice not to enter into a negotiation)? (I ask this because I'm curious as to the reason the seller should have to list a price just to appease your "want's", since that seems to be what this whole "mandatory pricing" issue is all about...appeasing a select group's "want's") If you don't purchase from a particular seller then it effects the seller negatively, not you, so why do you agree that seller's should have to list price's?

On the subject that the thread was intended for, I've done rather well on FCB (I post price's on item's most of the time, but there are time's when I choose to take offer's, which is the correct way for a seller to do business; making thier own decision's, at thier own discretion, when selling "thier" own item!

 

[brumbach]

eBay was way slow in February, picked up in March and most of April, and then around the last week of April and into May I had a few incredible days of big sales. The past week or so has been so-so, but this hobby is feast or famine, it always as been as long as I can remember, I've been selling since 1987. And I've never even considered peddling my garbage on FCB, so I can't comment on most of what you guys are posting about.

 

[All The Hype]

Just made a deal on FCB!


Set my price at exactly 5.6% less than ebay average and the card was sold within an hour or two.


This is the way it should work. He is happy because he got a discount from eBay prices (and same day shipping). I am happy because I moved what I needed to move for more than I would have got for the card on eBay after fees.


Both parties benefit by doing this type of transaction.


When sellers realize that it is unrealistic to expect over eBay prices and start to understand that they actually make more money listing for slightly less than eBay, then the FCB transaction forum will be the best place on the internet to buy and sell.


Better prices than eBay for both buyers and sellers and overall quicker transactions. Everyone wins.

 

[studioclint]

Just made a deal on FCB!


Set my price at exactly 5.6% less than ebay average and the card was sold within an hour or two.


This is the way it should work. He is happy because he got a discount from eBay prices (and same day shipping). I am happy because I moved what I needed to move for more than I would have got for the card on eBay after fees.


Both parties benefit by doing this type of transaction.


When sellers realize that it is unrealistic to expect over eBay prices and start to understand that they actually make more money listing for slightly less than eBay, then the FCB transaction forum will be the best place on the internet to buy and sell.


Better prices than eBay for both buyers and sellers and overall quicker transactions. Everyone wins.

I thought I would bump this old thread to see how the transaction boards are doing now.

 

[tedwilliamsfan]

[/quote]I thought I would bump this old thread to see how the transaction boards are doing now.[/quote]

I just made a deal the other day with the exact same principles. Sold a little lower than ebay price, but didn't have to pay the ebay fees. Everything worked out for both the seller and buyer.

 

[matfanofold]

I stopped selling on the bay all together. The new rules and the ever growing fees have put me off for good. I now sell exclusively to my local shop. I get about 90% of what I would get via the bay after fees, packing, shipping, ect.. but none of the hassle(s) involved. Once every couple weeks I take a 10 minute drive, unload and walk away with cash. Well worth the ~10% I'm giving up...

 

[Incline Investments]

eBay is HORRIBLE right now. I'm taking big hits on cards I should be making money on.

It is a buyers market.

 

[Jays_Cards]

eBay is HORRIBLE right now. I'm taking big hits on cards I should be making money on.

It is a buyers market.

Absolutely true. Trying to sell anything is almost a joke right now anywhere. I would like to move my prospects that I have left, but I highly doubt I will be doing so for a long, long time.