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Is this old news? It is new to me....from a story on Yahoo:

Girardi plans to have RHP Joba Chamberlain make about 30 starts. Girardi set his likely rotation as CC Sabathia on opening day at Baltimore on April 6, to be followed by Chien-Ming ****, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte and Chamberlain.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
I was under the impression he was scheduled to start in AAA this season.

OK....I guess that is good to know. I assumed he was healthy and would be in the rotation.
 

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muchuckwagon said:
200lbhockeyplayer said:
I was under the impression he was scheduled to start in AAA this season.

OK....I guess that is good to know. I assumed he was healthy and would be in the rotation.

Nope, the kid who was WAY more valuable than Johan Santana can't break into the rotation.

Craig
 

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I'm not so sure even a healthy Hughes makes the rotation. I've always said he is low to mid rotation at best(on lesser teams) and believe the yankees are going to use him as trade bait. I just never bought in to the hype that the BMB created and always saw him as a decent pitcher with decent stuff very close to his ceiling.
 

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Guys? Phil is *22*. I doubt he goes anywhere. He's younger than both Joba and Kennedy.

He'll either be in the rotation in AAA this year or long relief in the bigs. If he's in AAA, he's probably the first guy called up for an injury or spot start.

Also, the BMB didn't have much to do with his hype. He was #4 on the BA Top 100 when he was 20 years old.
 

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As a Red Sox fan, Im extremely happy to hear Chamberlain will be in the rotation. The Sox start out slow a lot and later in the game is when they make their move. It will be nice to see them have to face the likes of Brian Bruney as opposed to Chamberlain in the 7th or 8th.
 

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Chamberlain will not make it out of April as a starter. Hughes will be in the starting rotation by May 1st.
 

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MallCopKJ said:
As a Red Sox fan, Im extremely happy to hear Chamberlain will be in the rotation. The Sox start out slow a lot and later in the game is when they make their move. It will be nice to see them have to face the likes of Brian Bruney as opposed to Chamberlain in the 7th or 8th.
Is this for real? A pitcher in the rotation is unquestionably more useful than the same pitcher coming out of the pen. Even if what you say is true, it's unlikely that the Sox will face Joba more than 3-4 times during the year (if he's in the rotation) and if he's pitching well he could pitch 8 innings anyway.
 

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i think joba will start, but he has a innings limit for the season. by july or august
hell be back in the bullpen jmo.
 

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Topnotchsy said:
MallCopKJ said:
As a Red Sox fan, Im extremely happy to hear Chamberlain will be in the rotation. The Sox start out slow a lot and later in the game is when they make their move. It will be nice to see them have to face the likes of Brian Bruney as opposed to Chamberlain in the 7th or 8th.
Is this for real? A pitcher in the rotation is unquestionably more useful than the same pitcher coming out of the pen. Even if what you say is true, it's unlikely that the Sox will face Joba more than 3-4 times during the year (if he's in the rotation) and if he's pitching well he could pitch 8 innings anyway.

No, Im sure for the Yankees it will absolutely benefit them in the longrun. However when it comes down to the end of the year its almost always 1-3 games seperating the Red Sox and Yankees. Even 1 game won against Joba, if hes starting, could be huge and mean the difference in making the playoffs or not for either side.
 

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MallCopKJ said:
Topnotchsy said:
MallCopKJ said:
As a Red Sox fan, Im extremely happy to hear Chamberlain will be in the rotation. The Sox start out slow a lot and later in the game is when they make their move. It will be nice to see them have to face the likes of Brian Bruney as opposed to Chamberlain in the 7th or 8th.
Is this for real? A pitcher in the rotation is unquestionably more useful than the same pitcher coming out of the pen. Even if what you say is true, it's unlikely that the Sox will face Joba more than 3-4 times during the year (if he's in the rotation) and if he's pitching well he could pitch 8 innings anyway.

No, Im sure for the Yankees it will absolutely benefit them in the longrun. However when it comes down to the end of the year its almost always 1-3 games seperating the Red Sox and Yankees. Even 1 game won against Joba, if hes starting, could be huge and mean the difference in making the playoffs or not for either side.

especially when starting pitching isn't the yankees weakness. It's getting from the starting pitching to Rivera that is the problem.
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
MallCopKJ said:
Topnotchsy said:
MallCopKJ said:
As a Red Sox fan, Im extremely happy to hear Chamberlain will be in the rotation. The Sox start out slow a lot and later in the game is when they make their move. It will be nice to see them have to face the likes of Brian Bruney as opposed to Chamberlain in the 7th or 8th.
Is this for real? A pitcher in the rotation is unquestionably more useful than the same pitcher coming out of the pen. Even if what you say is true, it's unlikely that the Sox will face Joba more than 3-4 times during the year (if he's in the rotation) and if he's pitching well he could pitch 8 innings anyway.

No, Im sure for the Yankees it will absolutely benefit them in the longrun. However when it comes down to the end of the year its almost always 1-3 games seperating the Red Sox and Yankees. Even 1 game won against Joba, if hes starting, could be huge and mean the difference in making the playoffs or not for either side.

especially when starting pitching isn't the yankees weakness. It's getting from the starting pitching to Rivera that is the problem.

Yeah, I mean that offense is going to be able to saty with any and every team it plays. Getting a pitcher through 5 with any kind of lead, then turning it over to Marte, Joba then Rivera= end game most nights.
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
MallCopKJ said:
Topnotchsy said:
MallCopKJ said:
As a Red Sox fan, Im extremely happy to hear Chamberlain will be in the rotation. The Sox start out slow a lot and later in the game is when they make their move. It will be nice to see them have to face the likes of Brian Bruney as opposed to Chamberlain in the 7th or 8th.
Is this for real? A pitcher in the rotation is unquestionably more useful than the same pitcher coming out of the pen. Even if what you say is true, it's unlikely that the Sox will face Joba more than 3-4 times during the year (if he's in the rotation) and if he's pitching well he could pitch 8 innings anyway.

No, Im sure for the Yankees it will absolutely benefit them in the longrun. However when it comes down to the end of the year its almost always 1-3 games seperating the Red Sox and Yankees. Even 1 game won against Joba, if hes starting, could be huge and mean the difference in making the playoffs or not for either side.

especially when starting pitching isn't the yankees weakness. It's getting from the starting pitching to Rivera that is the problem.

Thanks for the 2007 scouting report there, Harold Reynolds.
 

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matfanofold said:
I'm not so sure even a healthy Hughes makes the rotation. I've always said he is low to mid rotation at best(on lesser teams) and believe the yankees are going to use him as trade bait. I just never bought in to the hype that the BMB created and always saw him as a decent pitcher with decent stuff very close to his ceiling.


BMB created zero hype.

BA, BP, Jon Sickels, Sporting News, Peter Gammons, etc created hype.

Phil's stuff and stats created hype.

Phil showing up on the BMB added 1% to the situation.

I'm still a believer. Nasty stuff, great command (sometimes) therein lies the crux of it.
 

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pujolsjunkie said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
MallCopKJ said:
Topnotchsy said:
MallCopKJ said:
As a Red Sox fan, Im extremely happy to hear Chamberlain will be in the rotation. The Sox start out slow a lot and later in the game is when they make their move. It will be nice to see them have to face the likes of Brian Bruney as opposed to Chamberlain in the 7th or 8th.
Is this for real? A pitcher in the rotation is unquestionably more useful than the same pitcher coming out of the pen. Even if what you say is true, it's unlikely that the Sox will face Joba more than 3-4 times during the year (if he's in the rotation) and if he's pitching well he could pitch 8 innings anyway.

No, Im sure for the Yankees it will absolutely benefit them in the longrun. However when it comes down to the end of the year its almost always 1-3 games seperating the Red Sox and Yankees. Even 1 game won against Joba, if hes starting, could be huge and mean the difference in making the playoffs or not for either side.

especially when starting pitching isn't the yankees weakness. It's getting from the starting pitching to Rivera that is the problem.

Thanks for the 2007 scouting report there, Harold Reynolds.

Exactly, it's obvious and that's what I'm saying. They need someone else in the bullpen and that is why Joba is more valuable setting up the 7th/8th inning than he is as 5th starter.
 

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Mudcatsfan said:
matfanofold said:
I'm not so sure even a healthy Hughes makes the rotation. I've always said he is low to mid rotation at best(on lesser teams) and believe the yankees are going to use him as trade bait. I just never bought in to the hype that the BMB created and always saw him as a decent pitcher with decent stuff very close to his ceiling.


BMB created zero hype.

BA, BP, Jon Sickels, Sporting News, Peter Gammons, etc created hype.

Phil's stuff and stats created hype.

Phil showing up on the BMB added 1% to the situation.

I'm still a believer. Nasty stuff, great command (sometimes) therein lies the crux of it.


While I completely agree that Phil's stats and stuff (and the fact he's a Yankee) are what caused much of his hype, it absolutely went berzerk when he showed up on the BMB. 13 year-old Jonas Brothers fans would have been embarassed at the fawning that went on over there.
 

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Pills said:
Also, the BMB didn't have much to do with his hype. He was #4 on the BA Top 100 when he was 20 years old.

Sorry, Have to disagree.

BMB was probably the reason his chrome autos went from selling for around $35 to over $100.

It shouldnt have been unexpected though, as BMB was also responsible for doing the same thing to Delmon and Dallas McPherson
 

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